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Im sure some are aware, as a pro non jumper, I am:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-men-who-jump-off-buildings

max

Dont be lazy so the rest of us can. make your link work when you post it. freebee.

http://www.channel4.com/...o-jump-off-buildings

Thanks, will do in future, I'm used to a forum that does this automatically!
Was a good documentary anyway, Although I think CH4 got the statistics a bit off. And maybe a few people going to be pissed with the specifics of site naming etc.
Either way, You gotta love Dan!

Thought the c4 program was superb,you guys must have balls the size of melons!!!

oh boy! does the guy work out?

Can´t watch it in Germany, Youtube also isn´t working.
Could somebody share another link?

http://www.channel4.com/...o-jump-off-buildings

You can watch it from there.

The show is blocked in Germany on C4 and also on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjTHqZk5Aw4

be mir geht der link walter.

Anyone know Dans Second Name? Trying to see if he has any videos or anything:/Any Ideas Anyone?

i think its "The Man".

can someone download it and repost it on youtube or some other source so us Americans can watch it?
cheers

wow, that guy looks much younger than the 39 years of age he has!

Dan the Man? I like it :L Wats your Jump Count? And do u acc know his real name?

It is only the trailer - that works - I am looking for the whole show.
Please pm me.

come on...it has DTM Topless!
and here, unlike real life, you can rewind!

Don't know (or care) how torrents work but try here.
http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/1651758235/Cutting+Edge+The+Men+Who+Jump+Off+Buildings+Ws+Pdtv+Xvid+Ftp

Oh and I don't know (or care) how to make things clicky.

you can also try google
"The Men Who Jump Off Buildings"
there are loads of torrents listed on page 2&3

hm, julia bond- bootie shaker...

nice link , jules, but i think walter is looking for more homoerotik.

Em did any body see my comment? Know his REAL name?

That is his real name "Dan The Man" he also does not really put that black shit on roofs for a job that is a cover he is really a dolphin trainer by trade.

To everyone not located under the Queen's rule you can watch the video at the link below. I think they did a good job with the film worth watching.
http://www.adrenalinegeeks.com/video

You Serious? Dan the Man :L Thanks.

dan witchells

Conveniently, this "Dan" fellow has already heated up the tar for the rest of us...all we need now are the feathers!

"'Base' is a secretive, underground community that likes to play while the city sleeps, and the 'bandit jumpers', as Dan and Ian are known,"


Apparently not underground enough

Mr Witchalls is a dolphin trainer by hart, yet secretive. As a cover for that he base jumps and talks about it on channel 4.

He also shows true love for Denmark.

Great job Dan!! You are the man and so young also:)
Thanks for your recent hospitality during my recent visit!

When you've jumped in excess of 120 different buildings, and over 250 different objects, then i'm sure Dan will be willing to listen to your thoughts on 'underground' bandit jumping which incidentally doesn't include the Perrine which you boldly feature in your avatar.

Very true but you dont have to be an arse with it. There is confidence and arrogance, the later will get you killed at some point, when you start to believe your own luck, that when it runs out.

Arrogance is a recipe for disaster i agree, but unlike in the movies, there's no guarantee that arrogant people WILL get their comeuppance. Life is a bit less predictable than that i find. There are plenty of arrogant people strutting around whilst their more humble but less fortunate colleagues are dead.


That's just fortune cookie gobbledegook. What does that even mean and what correlation are you talking about.

Hhaha, brilliant!!!
Missed your posts; you started jumping again?

I think everybody is arrogant until they are put in there place by disaster or massive wake up call.

To get back on topic,

I loved it. I thought it to be a true account of what Dan and Ian are going/went through. I was in on the landing area when Ian hooked it in at La Mousse. Scared the shit out of us. The loud thump coming a few seconds after impact is still fresh in my memory.

Anyway, good job lads. Shame that story about Dan blowing goats didn't make the cut though :)

Going jumping,

Later,

P.

Hey Paddyfrenchman

nice to meet you (albeit breifly) in the valley last year.

I think i should explain (for those who are unable to see the documentary and for those not too observant) that when paddy says hooked in at La Mousse, he's referring to me spiralling in to the talus at the foot of the cliff. After the 180 with line twists i turned the canopy on risers (avoiding the cliff strike) and you'll then see that as i turn away from the cliff there's a small tree which the right cells of my canopy snag. The 2 cells were totally ripped apart by this when we later inspected the canopy. Anyway, that turned me sharply into the talus and with the speed i'd picked up with the avoidance manouvre, I had quite an impact.

Just thought i'd get that cleared up before the 'hindsight' police start making comments about 'hook turns' or the like.

Just watched it. It is a nicely done documentary.

It's also 'Dan the Devil'(on Ian's shoulder) apparently .

Kris

Just got back from the valley; the guys at the Oberland hotel had heard about it from some of their customers. Seemed to have gone down well there at least; I hope the PVR has recorded it!

Looked like you hooked it in to me!!!

In hindsight though maybe you and me should stop eating so many pies..

I enjoyed the documentry, maybe you'll share the video and story of the bid C in london if we meet.

 



Shhhhhh!! ;)


never a truer word. Fat guys and base.....really is a marriage made in hospital. But the pies....i love them so!


Gee, Olek....miss you guys. I promise we'll hook up again soon.

Regards underground jumping....I bow to the ninja stealth master that is kiki32. I bet he/she (i'm guessing the latter going by the pink) even manages to get to the centre of that bridge with only 200 or so motorists spotting her. I heard one time she even did it as the light faded....hard-fucking-core.

Watch and learn boys....watch and learn. There's a new force in bandit jumping in town!

Now now boys and girls, don't get too carried away.

Keep the blowjobs in the hangout ;)

But kiki isn't a 'he'... Not unless you include that dildo picture.

i figured that.

I finally watched it last night. My wife and I found it both amusing at times and a good portrayal of the sport and the characters involved (mainly Dan and Ian), which did bring it to life.

Well done guys.

Just watched the whole document, awesome stuff. :D DTM, you truly are worthy of the name The Man. Keep up the good stuff, looking forward on seeing you soon! And all this fame at the age of 39.... Truly classic. :)

I don't think Kiki you have any idea of what objects some of these guys have done. It's not a challenge or piss take of "I've done more than you so there" but your comment of "you guys don't know the meaning of underground" is ill founded and quite frankly very inaccurate. On another point, most of these guys are bilingual or trilingual so to take a shot at someones 2nd language appears a little juvenile. Lets agree that you are happy posting lots, some others are happy jumping lots. You like the Perrine, some others prefer objects like the tall A in paris or high(est) bridge(s) in Europe, Eiger, buildings in Asia, Europe, Oceania and the USA (bit boring really). Personally I loved the doco and look forward to seeing some of my Euro friends in the coming weeks where we won't be underground but playing on legal big walls. Enjoy the Perrine-seriously. Looks like you managed to alienate yourself from a bunch of folks who are generally well liked and fun to hang with, well done!

Nico's my blub brother!! To be fair, last time i saw him he was looking pretty damn buff. Hopefully he'll have piled on a few pounds since then.

You are too funny.

FWIW, the documentary came across very well for jumpers and non jumpers. Knowing D & I, I think they did a great job, and they are without doubt the epitome of what BASE is about for me. The documentary didnt scratch the surface of what these 2 UK jumpers have done and achieved.

Well done chaps.... hats off as always.

Uh?? Says who? Kiki, can you really only have fun on legal jumps? So un-american. Don't forget, jumping is the fun part, legal / illegal: who gives a shit and no relation to fun / no fun.

Olek, just jump less and take more english lessons, ha ha.

Yes. And work more! :D

Hhehehehe.e....
That was good one guys.

I will take some lessons from you guys on the next BASE trip :P

Is it alright for you?
Can we count this as lessons/work?

you must have been drunk - Nico is still our best fed German and even though he claims to run all day and cycle, when he gets home he has a big portion of his famous Kaesespaetzle with onions to make sure he doesn't have to downsize his canopies...
Good thing we are going to Thailand and not India in September, cause a lot of people would probably try to rub his gigantic belly......
and I dont think we can call Olek bilingual, thats like saying Frank is a rigger ;O)

Wow man. You guys are just WAY too easy to troll.

I post one sarcastic comment and soon the entire forum lashes out with personal attacks against me. I appreciate the lolz though. Thanks for playin!

Love,
Kiki

To keep me from having to hide/delete posts, can we please try to keep this thread at least SOMEWHAT on the original topic.

I love a good lulz as much as the next veteran /b/tard, but this thread is just turning into a pissing contest, or did so quite some time ago.

So with that... any post from here on that isn't relating to the topic will be hidden, or deleted. Although I should probably be hiding 90% of this thread.

ok
I tried to leave some of the thread drifting humor, but removed a ton of distraction. (including one post after xmesox's warning.)

let's get the discussion back on topic (Dan, the segment, etc.). I prefer you discipline yourselves, since I'd rather not put people in a "time-out."

maybe people should be focusing more on technical stuff than the comedy. we have had too many fatalities recently. Dan might know what he is doing, but the casual viewer will not.



ps...
a user chose to keep drifting off topic, forcing a brief time-out. please show restraint. I don't really care who started it. PM me with the off topic stuff, or posts I should also remove.

no, the point is to "not feed the trolls." -- wwarped
[removed more off-topic commentary]


To actually address the valid issue of whether doing this documentary has compromised UK basejumpers by giving the public more of a peak into bandit jumping, i hand on heart believe that the culture HERE (based on several years of jumping in and around London and meeting people and getting busted a fair few times) is significantly more relaxed here than it is in the US. It's almost inconceivable to think that they'd take you to court or confiscate your gear - providing of course you jump in the night and don't blatantly endanger others or damage any property. The police are almost without exception disinterested in the fact that you trespassed or jumped from a building and providing you're polite and helpful, most coppers are actually thrilled to chat to you and ask questions. They are quite aligned to us in the fact that their job also has very intense moments of heightened fear and adrenaline. The worst we've been punished is a nominal fine ($50 for walking on a railway line, and an obligatory caution for possessing a fake id). Does this lack of consequence make it right? Well personally, i honestly believe that this documentary clearly shows that as unwanted visitors we are about as benign as anyone could wish to have. We don't damage, we don't steal, we don't do anything except (cue the cliche) "borrow a little altitude".

We haven't attempted to apologise for what we do as i think it's clear we have nothing to apologise for. We've not tried to paint ourselves out to be guardians of the wilderness or use PR spin to try to gloss over what we are (which has been the case with many of the Base associations, including ABP or UKproBASE or GBA etc who are pushing for more legal access). We've not whined and moaned and said "please give us legal access to X and Y, we're just extreme athletes...blah blah blah".

What we effectively said is "this is what we do...we're not entirely sure why we do it...but it causes no harm, it inconveniences few others and we could be doing far more heinous things, so just let us get on with it."

And you know what? The response has been very positive. Even the most conservative papers here in the UK have been positive. No one is up in arms. No one is stamping their feet. No one is suggesting anything change. But i'd be willing to bet anyone a few £ (or $$$) that this doc will work to jumpers' advantage a lot more than it will to their disadvantage, either with the public who might grant us sneaky access because they feel less intimidated, with buidling security who realise we're ultimately benign and pose no threat or with the police who will continue to view us as a minor nuisance rather than a criminal.

What you guys have in the US regarding the various authorities' attitude towards BASE, is entirely different, and i think some of you need to understand that before you wade in on this one guns blazing. I guess the opinions of other UK jumpers would be especially valid here as they specifically are the ones who stand to win or lose from this programme.

Long live the land of the free!!!!
(even if it is a fog covered little island).

obviously, good media coverage should lead to acceptance.

acceptance can lead to easier access for you.

acceptance can also lead to more unprepared wannabees attempting to imitate those featured.

do you have any thoughts on which is more likely? will they balance out?

removed more off-topic commentary -- wwarped



I think the film is balanced and does not glorify or gloss over BASE. People watching it will clearly see the highs and lows that potentially await a basejumper. If they choose to want to BASE jump in direct response to seeing it, then who i am to stop them (i wanted to get into BASE after i saw a film on jumping too). I resent people who arrogantly feel they should try to save me from myself and i have no desire to do that to someone else. I entered BASE with too little skydive experience and an incredibly obvious lack of skill, a deficit which i have managed to maintain throughout my jumping career. I am not in the slightest bit ashamed of that and i make only a small apology to those who feel my contribution to BASE is an embarassing one. I got into BASE to have fun and to challenge myself and i have managed to do both and stay alive and still be pretty inept. I believe I have achieved some outstanding jumps (even if i do blow my own trumpet for once) and i have done so despite myself and my absence of talent or natural ability. I have no issue with those who wish to do the same.

There seems to be a trend these days that it's not acceptable to be a basejumper for the sheer fun of it, to be average at it or (god forbid) to die doing it. You have to be a perfect athlete, you have to be a monster tracker, you have to be infallible but most of all you musn't die...not on our watch. Well screw that! Since when did BASE become a stronghold of the jocks. Since when did we decide we needed to police who gets to jump and who doesn't. And since when did talented (or otherwise) jumpers stop dying.

If some nimrod skydiver (like me) grabs a rig and dies because they liked what they saw on TV, then that's a shame.....but it's not a new phenomenon and has happened since Carl made his very first film. Cest la vie.

I thought the documentary clearly showed that this shit is dangerous. Ian's accidents should be enough to prove that point. The list grows bigger and this summer is a particularly deadly one.

More unprepared wannabees are already getting into this sport. You google base jumping and you can find all sort of information. You can probably buy gear without any skydiving experience these days.

I think the doc was well balanced in the sense that it showed the good and bad aspects of what we do (unfortunately to Ian's detriment).

I don't know the content of the various courses out there. If I was to run one though I'd start with "This shit is a lot of fun but it will kill you or people you know and that's the easy way out... Ready?"

I know Ian, and I love his posts, and I also love his approach to life and BASE, his approach and jumping is what BASE is all about to me... (and this isnt kissing arse/ass, its what I tell him as a friend)

He (as many times before) says so clearly what I want to say, but I dont have the word skill to say it.

I had no doubt before seeing this documentary that it would be a decent reflection of the sport, because Ian was involved. I dont know Dan very well, but have met him a few times and made a jump with him, and feel that the film showed him well.

Yes the film gave increased traffic on here with stupid questions, and on BJO with new users. I think the film more so than the last one that was shown in the UK (Seconds to impact) actually shows that BASE is complex and hard work with consequences.

I understand why people would want to BASE after the Seconds to Impact film, I was a newbie skydiver at the time and I had an interest in BASE (before it was well known on youtube and Dropzones) and the film I saw made me want it more... If Dan and Ians film was shown whilst I was in the same place I am not so sure... I am not sure how that transfers over to skydivers who have watched wingsuit proxy on video and see it, as its a different beast that now wants to BASE... and it is a very dangerous beast that I feel we are about to see.

IMHO, The documentary did nothing to hurt UK BASE (I have had emails from people saying "site naming!!" etc), but they are from people that do not understand what Ian and Dan do, and the objects they have done.

Again, hats off gents.....

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