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Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Can you explain this question for an science documentary.

Why is it not enough to jump from airplanes, and have go further taking even bigger risk to go base jumping?
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
One possibile answer could be the following:
Human being has unlimited possibilities...The target is to try always to go beyond your limits...Without it there would be not any progress or evolution.!

Actually, the limits are only in our own mind..!!

On the other hand, some people like to face fear and take higher risks in order to keep emotional control even in extremely dangerous situations..

Just my 2 cents..Smile
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Re: [juanitos] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
I fell in love first time I saw the first jump from Troll Wall 12 years old, and from then I was totally hooked.

I did start shaking, high pulse, my palms was wet jus watching the news on tv. So how do I explain that? Pure attraction? I was/is even afraid of hights.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
when i was a kid i saw skydiving on tv and knew that as soon as i was old enough, i would. i did a tandem skydive at 23 yrs old and thought that was good enough. when i saw someone base jump on video it made my skin tingle. i knew at that moment that i would do that one day, so not long after that i started skydiving. i have had many many vivid dreams of tracking base jumps over the most gorgeous canyons in places that only exist in my mind, and still remember most of the details as of this day. funny thing is ive never jumped slider up, these are just my brains manifestations of jumps that i want to and will experience.............
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Too difficult to put it in words...Can one explain why does one fall in love ..?

The calling of the abyss is pure irrational..Nevertheless it has its own logic...

Most people explain this fascination calling it "the adrenaline rush"...It is more than that!

Those moments of free falling are the ones that bring you unlimited joy, an expansion of the consciousness, pure freedom. It is a NO MIND experience similar to a spiritual one..That's why it makes u feel like God.

One experiences: unlimited Joy = absolute Freedom = pure Love

as a matter of fact, all these 3 mentioned above are actually synonyms.
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Senseless Moments of Bliss
I started jumping from planes for the rush.
Now I do it for fun and spending money.

I started jumping off of things for the rush.
Now I do it because I can't stop Blush Wink
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Why? There is excitement, pure joy, immersion in the moment, friends, the need to push your body with your mind and push your mind with your body. It can be a deep challenge with amazing highs and lows. There is an attraction, that must be experienced to be understood, it does not translate well. Explain flying a wingsuit next to mountains at sunrise after an all night hike and all the planning and work or flying clouds or traveling the world, try to explain that to someone who's feet have never left the ground - not possible to express it truly. Same with jumping.

Airplane, why just jump from an airplane, once you have learned to ride a bike you take the training wheels off i.e. leave the nest of the DZ when you have learned enough to do more if you want more. Many people are happy to stay, it is good fun. Why jump sport solo when you can stay with a tandem instructor - it could be arguably 'safer'? We want more.

What kind of a man would live a life without daring?
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Re: [rockhopper] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
rockhopper wrote:
that must be experienced to be understood.

Exactly! Why do some of us have/had the desire before we even knew what it was? I do not think I saw the danger when I was 12 years old, for me it looked like a natural thing to do. However I was an skijumper, and could transfer the feeling of a very short flight.

I guess I always had the hunger for flying since I was a small kid. Just the feeling of sticking my head outside the barn roof at the highest point "20 meters" gave me an incredible feeling hard to describe. Fear, respect ............
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
434 wrote:
Why is it not enough to jump from airplanes, and have go further taking even bigger risk to go base jumping?

I feel like it's a bit of a loaded question. "Enough" implies that BASE jumping is somehow more of something I'm looking for than skydiving is, but the two are completely different experiences for me. Skydiving, for me, is about playing with the wind. BASE is about playing with the ground. That BASE is more dangerous is beside the point -- if there were a way to make BASE completely safe, I'd only enjoy it more.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Planes are loud and they tell you when/ where to jump. Fixed objects dont. Skydiving's all pre-planned. No feeling of accomplishment afterwards. Anyone can just show up and jump.
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Re: [Twoply] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Twoply wrote:
Planes are loud and they tell you when/ where to jump. Fixed objects dont. Skydiving's all pre-planned. No feeling of accomplishment afterwards. Anyone can just show up and jump.

So fixed objects don't tell you were to jump?Crazy
I thought they where fixed?
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
I've always enjoyed a good hike up, enjoying nature, watching the clouds, and pausing to appreciate the view. Once up, the hike feels over, done, complete. Hiking down frequently feels just like the preamble to the drive out.

I'd rather take the express way down.
Smile
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Re: [base736] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
base736 wrote:

I feel like it's a bit of a loaded question. "Enough" implies that BASE jumping is somehow more of something I'm looking for than skydiving is, but the two are completely different experiences for me. Skydiving, for me, is about playing with the wind. BASE is about playing with the ground. That BASE is more dangerous is beside the point -- if there were a way to make BASE completely safe, I'd only enjoy it more.

That's awesome, that's pretty much how i feel, i have just never been able to put it in words the way you just did so it that makes it so clear.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Planes crash. Unsure
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Re: [Kiki32] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
because we smoke crack!
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
The reason I Base Jumped more than Skydive is. In BASE Jumping there is just 'NOT Enough Time' like there is in Skydiving out of airplanes. For me to pull OFF my Harness Container & throw it away in Free Fall .
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http://www.google.com/...Enz3NkJmR0gD9GDC6AO0
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Re: [HappyRogger] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
HappyRogger wrote:
Very much more visual effects Wink

Did you find shrooms on the hike up?
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
I think it's been said, it's not a comparison. "jumping out of planes is not enough' Isn't a valid statement. It's assuming that jumping is only for a rush, for risk. A common mis-perception from non-jumpers.
Base and skydiving is about so much more than adrenaline. People that only jump for the rush don't last long in either sport. Of course, adrenaline is part of it, but everyone has different reasons beyond that.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
My mind wanders during a skydive. If i want to experience the "now" then my mind has to be in complete focus. BASE does that for me.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
When I go skydiving, I feel like a Med student being to told to walk down the hall in a striaght line and keep my hands to myself and be quiet, like a kindergartener.

When I BASE I feel like a kindergartener being let loose in a hospital to explore.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
They are two very different activities. BASE is fun. Skydiving is not.

Why do some people ride road bikes and others ride mountain bikes?

Why do some do trail riding while others do motocross?
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Im antisocial. Peeps at the dz always want to jump together and shit.
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
b/c, once you've experienced BASE jumping, skydiving doesn't do it anymore... it's like that nugget: "Skydiving? Nah, that’s too Ben & Jerry’s for me. - some British Jumper".
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Re: [lploscar] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
depends on how you skydive i guess.
i won't stop it, if alone for the canopy ride.
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Re: [mr_prick] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
it costs like $25 to get a lift ticket, i can climb for free ;)
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
434 wrote:
Can you explain this question for an science documentary.

Why is it not enough to jump from airplanes, and have go further taking even bigger risk to go base jumping?

Why arent car racers happy with driving to work. Its simply a different pace, different machine, and different tools.
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Re: [baseknut] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
I have never felt more normal as I did after a base jump. Everything felt better, looked better, smelt after just one jump.

It is a totally different world, from being a non jumper or being an active jumper. Before I had done it, I could smell the reword in the other end, and thats why I was willing to risk my life. I was in love before I knew!
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Re: [baseknut] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
i dont skydive much anymore, largely due to time constraints - i can base jump at night, during the week, wherever i am. don't have to dedicate my weekends to a dz. also, dz politics and personalities play part - can show up anywhere, meet a base jumper, regardless of skill level, and enjoy a jump. dz's are more clicky, everyone's worried about experience level, jump #, ETC.
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Re: [kcollier] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
kcollier wrote:
also, dz politics and personalities play part - can show up anywhere, meet a base jumper, regardless of skill level, and enjoy a jump. dz's are more clicky, everyone's worried about experience level, jump #, ETC.

Yes, THIS!
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Re: [Kiki32] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Kiki32 wrote:
kcollier wrote:
also, dz politics and personalities play part - can show up anywhere, meet a base jumper, regardless of skill level, and enjoy a jump. dz's are more clicky, everyone's worried about experience level, jump #, ETC.

Yes, THIS!

if you choose to do a BASE solo, it is. nobody need be there but you.

at a dz... a true solo is simply not possible. you will still need a pilot, deal with manifest, etc.
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Re: [kcollier] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
kcollier wrote:
i dont skydive much anymore, largely due to time constraints - i can base jump at night, during the week, wherever i am. don't have to dedicate my weekends to a dz. also, dz politics and personalities play part - can show up anywhere, meet a base jumper, regardless of skill level, and enjoy a jump. dz's are more clicky, everyone's worried about experience level, jump #, ETC.
I don't know it appears a few people on here don't want anything to do with ya if ya don't have a Base number. Laugh
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
When I jump from an airplane I am happy.
When I BASE jump I am happier.
In a wingsuit I am happiest.
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Re: [badenhop] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
badenhop wrote:
When I jump from an airplane I am happy.
When I BASE jump I am happier.
In a wingsuit I am happiest.

+3

Cool

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Re: [stitch] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
stitch wrote:
kcollier wrote:
i dont skydive much anymore, largely due to time constraints - i can base jump at night, during the week, wherever i am. don't have to dedicate my weekends to a dz. also, dz politics and personalities play part - can show up anywhere, meet a base jumper, regardless of skill level, and enjoy a jump. dz's are more clicky, everyone's worried about experience level, jump #, ETC.
I don't know it appears a few people on here don't want anything to do with ya if ya don't have a Base number. Laugh

I dont have a base number. (by choice). Tongue
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Re: [stitch] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Nah that's just cause its you stitch...
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Re: [434] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Ever since I was a kid I had this feeling of being trapped on the ground. Seeing giant cumulonimbus clouds towering above me always made me acutely aware of how stuck on the ground I was. Skydiving let me get up there and join the clouds for a little while.

Problem is, living in West Australia there isn't much cloud to play with and when there is we don't jump so I can't enjoy it. Just freefalling or wingsuiting with good mates could be enough, but then you get the rule nazis getting in the way of a simple good time.

Drop zones are filled with people telling you what you can and can't do. What weather conditions you can jump in, whether you can take an inflatable sex sheep on the jump with you, sh!t like that. I skydived so I could feel free and hang out with people who aren't worried about rules. All skydiving does for me now is make me more aware of how limited we all are by the fcked up rules of society.

BASE gives a chance to disregard some of the rules and do something thats outside the rules without hurting anyone else.

In skydiving there's no chance to get your heart pumping on the hike in. When you finish a hike or a climb in you don't get to sit up there and enjoy being in an amazing place without having to walk all the way back again. You get to look forward to the best part...

Standing on the bottom watching your mates do the same, hearing their canopies open and then all of you being somewhere you have no other reason to be.

You get to see amazing things and be in amazing places - who else gets to stand on top of the highest building in your city and know what their reflection looks like in the glass on the way down?

A BASE jump is usually a buildup over a period of days or weeks, you focus while you pack (there's no reserve fallback). You need to assess the height of an object, suss out the exit, chose the right gear, figure out a way to get past security, work out what the winds are doing, you have to more than just the windspeed, you have to figure out how to get to the exit point and then once you're there you still need tofigure out whether you can even jump tonight.

In skydiving, you turn up, pay your money wait for the door to open and then 60seconds later you pitch land and its over until the next load.

fck manifest
Fck skygods,
fck drop zone politcs,
fck landing where you're told
fck smelling farts in the plane in the way up
fck paying $ for jump tickets
fck clicky dropzones
Fck the rules
fck skydiving
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Re: [AMuppet] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
AMuppet wrote:
fck manifest
Fck skygods,
fck drop zone politcs,
fck landing where you're told
fck smelling farts in the plane in the way up
fck paying $ for jump tickets
fck clicky dropzones
Fck the rules
fck skydiving

I second the motion.
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Re: [AMuppet] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
+1

But I think my farts smell worse on the exit point than in the plane Tongue
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Re: [tommybrown] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
tommybrown wrote:
AMuppet wrote:
fck manifest
Fck skygods,
fck drop zone politcs,
fck landing where you're told
fck smelling farts in the plane in the way up
fck paying $ for jump tickets
fck clicky dropzones
Fck the rules
fck skydiving

I second the motion.

Ridiculous....
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Re: [AMuppet] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
Just for fun one time, I did a solo hop-n-pop, landed, picked my canopy quickly, ran to my car, jumped in and drove off like a bat out of hell.
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Re: [gauleyguide] Why are you not happy to just jump from Airplanes?
gauleyguide wrote:
Just for fun one time, I did a solo hop-n-pop, landed, picked my canopy quickly, ran to my car, jumped in and drove off like a bat out of hell.

I would have paid for my jump ticket just to see that. Wouldn't have even needed to skydive the rest of the day. That would have made my day and been much more fun than a jump.