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If there was a central data base to write in every jump you do for manufacturers to know what setup's you are using minus the name of exit point and your name would you use it.
Even going back through your logbook and loading that up...

dwain weston had an idea like this before but never managed to get around to it ....wonder why hmmmm
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Re: [MBA-PATTO] If there was a central data base to write in every jump you do for manufacturers to know what setup's you are using minus the name of exit point and your name would you use it.
Why?
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Re: [MBA-PATTO] If there was a central data base to write in every jump you do for manufacturers to know what setup's you are using minus the name of exit point and your name would you use it.
Theres a lot of jumpers out there who don't even log for themselves let alone for something else.
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Re: [MBA-PATTO] If there was a central data base to write in every jump you do for manufacturers to know what setup's you are using minus the name of exit point and your name would you use it.
Not understanding you. Why would you jump for a manufacturer? Payroll?
Take care and explain please.
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Re: [Kiki32] Log books.
Kiki32 wrote:
Theres a lot of jumpers out there who don't even log for themselves let alone for something else.

I don't log my jumps. I think I stopped logging my skydives shortly after AFF. Hell, now that I think of it, I don't even have a licence to skydive.

Doesn't bother me though, I know I've jumped before.
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Re: [gauleyguide] Log books.
gauleyguide wrote:
Kiki32 wrote:
Theres a lot of jumpers out there who don't even log for themselves let alone for something else.

I don't log my jumps. I think I stopped logging my skydives shortly after AFF. Hell, now that I think of it, I don't even have a licence to skydive.

Doesn't bother me though, I know I've jumped before.

I have 500 or so skydives, and an A license - I actually specifically dislike the fact that skydiving requires you to log things - i may have legitimately logged my first 100 or so skydives, after that i stopped giving a shit - i don't log my basejumps either. I spend all day making sure what i do and say is properly supported and documented and filed - I don't want to do, or be forced to do the same for recreational activities. damn the man, and fuck the system.
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Re: Log books.
once again the great logging debate...

first, logging is subject to dishonesty as well... but it's a simple way to accurately track your stats if you do so regularly...

in skydiving you only HAVE to log if you want a specific license or rating... after that, you're not required to do anything. i got my ratings, now that's what my pro-track is for.

of course, there is not even a need for that in BASE... you don't HAVE to prove to anyone how many jumps or objects you have. of course, in certain instances, it does occasionally help you out with some street credit if you habitually log.

but for instance when you say: i don't log, and i have 500 jumps or so... well that means to me you have between 100 and 500 jumps. it's amazing how fast you think you are accumulating jumps when you're really not. i've found out myself, in skydiving, BASE and flight hours... when going back after a period of time and tracking down jumps and flights and back logging.

so transfer that to your gear. which personally, i find the most useful reason to log. i can track exactly how many jumps get put on each canopy, container and PC. another thing to think about when buying used gear... because you rarely can trust someone's number of jumps on the ragged out POS they're trying to sell you. i even track the jumps on my gear when it's loaned out. so i know my numbers are accurate.

plus it's really not a tedious task, it takes all of 1min to jot that info down in a notepad file on my phone, on the hike or drive back from the LZ. later, on a rainy day, i transfer that stuff into my notepad for the true totals.

take it with a grain of salt... but i think it's a good idea, and if you don't... no sweat... but i definitely won't believe your numbers.Tongue
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Re: [blitzkrieg] Log books.
blitzkrieg wrote:
once again the great logging debate...

first, logging is subject to dishonesty as well... but it's a simple way to accurately track your stats if you do so regularly...

in skydiving you only HAVE to log if you want a specific license or rating... after that, you're not required to do anything. i got my ratings, now that's what my pro-track is for.

of course, there is not even a need for that in BASE... you don't HAVE to prove to anyone how many jumps or objects you have. of course, in certain instances, it does occasionally help you out with some street credit if you habitually log.

but for instance when you say: i don't log, and i have 500 jumps or so... well that means to me you have between 100 and 500 jumps. it's amazing how fast you think you are accumulating jumps when you're really not. i've found out myself, in skydiving, BASE and flight hours... when going back after a period of time and tracking down jumps and flights and back logging.

so transfer that to your gear. which personally, i find the most useful reason to log. i can track exactly how many jumps get put on each canopy, container and PC. another thing to think about when buying used gear... because you rarely can trust someone's number of jumps on the ragged out POS they're trying to sell you. i even track the jumps on my gear when it's loaned out. so i know my numbers are accurate.

plus it's really not a tedious task, it takes all of 1min to jot that info down in a notepad file on my phone, on the hike or drive back from the LZ. later, on a rainy day, i transfer that stuff into my notepad for the true totals.

take it with a grain of salt... but i think it's a good idea, and if you don't... no sweat... but i definitely won't believe your numbers. Tongue

Thats one of the main reasons I log. Also for learning purposes, I can write down when I have a funky exit, offheading, etc so I can see what stuff I need to work on. Takes like 2 seconds to update my spreadsheet.
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Re: [blitzkrieg] Log books.
In reply to:
in skydiving you only HAVE to log if you want a specific license or rating... after that, you're not required to do anything. i got my ratings, now that's what my pro-track is for.

haha i quit logging at jump 365 and have had to use my pro-track to prove i was current.

kind of wish i'd kept up logging my BASE jumps, if only to go back and reminiscence some crazy shit : )

good times.
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Re: [blitzkrieg] Log books.
blitzkrieg wrote:
once again the great logging debate...

take it with a grain of salt... but i think it's a good idea, and if you don't... no sweat... but i definitely won't believe your numbers. Tongue

To clarify, I have 396 logged skydives, and relied on DZ account printout's for the remaining 100 or so - my count of 500 total is accurate w/in 10 jumps.

I count my base jumps, know exactly how many i have made, and how many objects, and i can tell you exactly how many jumps are on my primary base rig - thi sis written down in a notebook w/ my gear and on this website w my profile. Agree that this is important and relevant information to have access to.

I did not mean to totally discount logging or tracking of any kind, i simply don't feel the need to take notes on every jump i make - beyond the logistical reasons for tracking base jumps, i personally prefer to just have the experiences. same w/ skydiving - i do it for fun. I have absolutley nothing against those who keep detailed logs, i think it's great if thats what you wanna do. not really a debate, imo, just discussing personal preference. log away. or dont. just have fun.
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Re: [kcollier] Log books.
well, then... you log.Tongue

i was more referring to people who keep track of nothing... not actually directed at you. Smile
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Old Joke About Logging
You wanna have a lot of jumps?
Well that is easy, just quit logging
and watch while they multiply Tongue

Book, notebook, Excel spreadsheet,
Protrack, DZ printout, arrest sheets,
hospital visits, etc. Anything that is
more reliable than one's memory.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Old Joke About Logging
What about if you were to only post up details if incidents/accidents?
We all, well most, of us look at the fatality list from time to time but it seems very few are hearing about and therefore learning from the near misses.
Accidents are generally a combination of errors building up.
What wait until they become a fatility until we get a chance to learn?