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Dirtaay Low
Hey there all, up until now my experience with low stuff has been 150' static lined towers and buildings resulting in a short but acceptable canopy ride. Now I've spotted a new obj. that is convenient for me which is 150' w/appurtenances and 140 w/o @ exit point. Lz is a little snug but not too tight.

I would be interested to hear what the lower edge that ya'll are jumping is and what kinds of times as far as canopy rides your experienceing. What seems to be the lowest ya'll have tried on a static line with reasonable success sans going to a d-bag?

Thanks!
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Re: [debaucherordrgz] Dirtaay Low
120ft was my lowest, had time to get toggles and flare, very short canopy ride maybe a few seconds. Did not get any forward movement. Was not a hard landing although it was over a parking lot. Have no desire to go any lower and wont be repeating the jump anytime soon.
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Re: [debaucherordrgz] Dirtaay Low
Get in touch with some British jumpers. They seem to be the experts in this range. A lot of ideas are floating around in this range depending on which category of object/winds/heading. Moderate downwind deployments can really suck at 120ft.
Take care,
space
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Re: [debaucherordrgz] Dirtaay Low
I have around 25 jumps between 105-150ft with a further 25+ jumps between 150-175ft all static lines/PCA's.
So take the following with a pinch of salt.

I have found a massive difference in canopy time between sub 125ft and sub 150ft.
That 25ft makes a lot of difference.

The video below is 108ft on a troll 265 and a Black Jack 260 both SL.
http://www.basejumper.com/videos/Miscellaneous/108ft_448.html

I will try to upload some jumps from around 120ft and 140ft later today for comparison.

I had 4.1 seconds from feet off to feet touching down, got toggles off and kind of flared.
Mac said next time he would just use rears, I would be happy to go for toggles again but any lower I would use rears.
I would also like to point out how critical it is to pop your toggles simultaneously, even the slightest delay in one side will create a turn and basically you will hook yourself in to the ground. I have seen it done and we finished up taking the jumper to A&E.
I missed a toggle on a 140ft jump and had no option but to use one toggle and one riser, you don't have time for a second attempt!

I also did 111ft with a troll 285 and had a significantly harder landing(compared to the one in the video), due to end cells not fully inflating. I got toggles off and landed pretty much the same time, limped away uninjured.
So if you have 2 different sized canopies I would recommend the smaller one every time.

One thing to remember, sub 140ft you are pretty much given a landing rather than choosing one. you have very little height or time to adjust heading etc, the upside of this is that if you do have a 180 you will only hit the object once and not bounce all the way down it.


Laters

Julian
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Re: [jools] Dirtaay Low
OK uploaded 4 new vids, (on this site).
120, 135, 145 and 155ft for comparison.
All are on trolls either 265 or 285.
Standard slider down pack jobs nothing special done to them.
Either PCA's or in the case of 155ft a static line.
Not a D-bag in sight!

Non of it is ground breaking! Its just a comparison in canopy time.

Laters

Julian
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Re: [debaucherordrgz] Dirtaay Low
Seen an under-hung 155foot cliff freefall before handheld with a 48. It all went fine but i don't think he will ever do that jump again... Smile Just do it!
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Re: [jools] Dirtaay Low
jools wrote:
...108ft on a troll 265 and a Black Jack 260 both SL....

....I also did 111ft with a troll 285 and had a significantly harder landing(compared to the one in the video), due to end cells not fully inflating. I got toggles off and landed pretty much the same time, limped away uninjured.
So if you have 2 different sized canopies I would recommend the smaller one every time.

What was the wing loading on the 285 compared to the 260? And would you consider a canopy smaller than the 260 for the same jumps?
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debaucherordrgz
What part of NC are you in?
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Re: [gauleyguide] debaucherordrgz
I actually just moved and haven't updated my profile. I now live in Birmingham, Alabama.
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Re: [jools] Dirtaay Low
"OK uploaded 4 new vids, (on this site). "

Jools,

Which site please?


John (Kenya)
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Re: [John_Scher] Dirtaay Low
John
http://www.basejumper.com/videos/Miscellaneous/index.html

gauleyguide
I am about 190lb or 86KG without gear.