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So heres the deal ive been wanted to basejump my whole life but i got no experience what so ever from parachuting (well tandem but that's gay) so now im wondering where should i start? water jumps from 170bridge or 1000ft antenna is what i got in a reasonable range and i already got a fox 220 with 42"pc and i know how to pack it, if water jumps are better to start with theres no problem to buy one but it's damn cold in the water over here...

looking for serious answers guys, how big are my chances of making a "good" base from the antenna (not breaking bones or having a strike with the antenna)? I got good body control and i guess im pretty good in panic situations, as i said serious answers i know there are people out there done base-jumps before starting any skydiving and this is what i want...

well, I've moved this thread to the new "BASE Beginners" forum.

my first thoughts are to read the "sticky" thread at the top of the forum. it will give you ideas.

maybe someone else will chime in with additional thoughts.

Sorry for wrong post, well ive read pretty much everything everywhere but can't find out what's the best step if you got no experience (from skydiving), seems to me the most basers start with big-walls, so should i start low and go higher or reverse? i can read about guys starting base with no experience but never "how" they started.

Well since there must be tons of basers in here wich is the "easiest" base?

Why wouldn't you want to skydive first? If you don't you won't know how to control your body in the air or even maintain a stable straight down fall from even the most tame of base jumps.

I'm sure everyone on here will tell you the way to get into base without skydiving experience is to go ahead and get some skydiving experience and then attend a first jump course a couple years down the road.

I got into base with minimal skydiving experience and I'm lucky that I'm not dead. I've learned a lot from some of the guys that I have started jumping with in these past couple years that I've been learning. I've taken the advice that I was given, and now 50ish more base jumps later its just now becoming apparent to me how much I don't know. I would definitely still classify myself as a rank amature in the sport.

Not until just recently was I watching that base video called "ready to go" thinking about how much I badly wanted to make my first Europe base trip and hang with the best of them on some of those beautiful jumps. I realized that some of those guys that are flying wingsuits such as V3's to the max performance may be rich kids playing with daddy's sweet money, but for the most part the guys that you see doing all that cool stuff that ends up on youtube have spent the better part of their lives doing countless skydives learning and listening and slowly developing base jumping knowledge and skill by relaxing, focusing, and taking things one jump at a time. A lot of the truely experienced and skilled guys are well over forty probably and are just now reaching the zenith of their performance.

I'm sure that you might get into the sport and then look back like I did later and realized that you rushed things. I'm sure I might not be telling you what you want to hear, but it's probably the best route for you... Be patient, learn to skydive, read every article on this page as well as on blincmagazine, if you have a question search the forums first. Go slower than what you might think your ready for, and always in skydiving and in base take things one jump at a time.

This sport is a journey, not a destination. Relax and enjoy the ride or you'll be striving for things you may never reach and miss out on all the good stuff along the way.

I doubt you'll be able to develop a nice flat track only jumping from a 1000 ft. antenna. I have enough trouble from 10,000 ft!

if you are curious as to which object you should jump with basically no skydiving experience, my thoughts are simple: none.

you can't run if you do not walk.
you can't walk if you do not crawl.

realistically, you have not learned to crawl yet. I could be wrong, but you've offered up very little information, have not filled out your profile, etc.

sadly, you don't realize this. that suggest you have not yet tried to help yourself by reading the "Articles" on this website.

I will not put in more effort than you when it comes to helping you.
I will also not help you rush to get hurt.

"I got good body control and i guess im pretty good in panic situations"

Just wondering what you have done in the past to make you think you have good body control? Might help base jumpers on here evaluate you a little better. Just from one base beginner to the next, not trying to be an ass.

ok...
I've removed 2 posts from view. the idea behind this new forum is to offer a slam-free place for newbies.

if the OP is a troll, odds are, they are looking to create drama. let's not feed into that.

if the OP is sincere, either help (which can include discouraging) or remain silent.

call it an experiment. if the noise level drops, we will call it a success. the forum also makes it easier for newbies to prove they are serious.

Im not a troll, you dont have to answer my questions if you don't want to ive also been registred since 2006 so why start trolling now? and regarding "skydiving" posts i know thats the way to go but im always on the "run" both private and in work i paid for the a-license course twice and both times i missed it because of work and im going to thailand in june hopefully for 3-6 months but AFF is twice as expensive in asia as in europe.

Well lets see what happends, i might take an aff course first if i find a place that can make it happend fast and for a more human price im not poor but why pay twice as much and fell twice as insecure, i been to much in thailand to know the thai-standards

Anyway thanks for the answers...

without canopy skills your chances of making a "good" jump from an A are not very big. without canopy skills: how will you know how to back your canopy up or do a fast raiser turn if you have a 180, how will you know how to get out of line twist if your body control is off on opening, how will you know how to do a flat turn and sink it in to avoid landing in or on an obstacle if need be, and lastly, how will you know how to flare to land (especially in the dark or low light, hopefully you aren't going to dayblaze and potentially burn the A that others may be jumping)

sure you could do it without canopy skills and get lucky like a few others have. the A isn't going anywhere, why not get the skills to be able to do multiple jumps from it instead of ending up in the inceident reports on your first.

Get some.


Sell it. You don't need it yet.


Depends on how well you know how to set up your rig, what deployment method you use etc... Chances could range from reasonably good (as a one off) to guaranteed death. And no-one's going to teach you this stuff over the internet.


The serious answer is to go skydiving. Any other advice is a joke.

again, please consider filling out your profile. if we know where you live, you might find someone local to help you. they might be able to suggest better ways to learn to skydive, so you can begin to understand how much you do not know.

as it is, we can only guess where in Europe you are.

It would be good to know where you live, as considerations in regard to what is available to you Object wise would be a good place to start. It sounds as if you are quite serious,(after all, you already own gear).The first thing would be to have a mentor that you trust, this must already be the case since you claim to know how to pack your rig. As a rule I would never encourage someone to start into BASE without at least a minimal skydiving background, but that said I'd like to believe that I am not so closeminded as to rule it out completely for the right individual under the right circumstances. I know of a few individuals that have made their first freefalls and parachute jumps from cliffs and buildings, I used to take experienced parachutists on their first fixed object jumps, regularly from Antennas, I wouldn't recomend anything but a Bridge(with a benign landing area) as a first jump site for someone with no parachuting experience whatsoever.I would encourage you to follow the common sense path of learning to skydive before you make a fixed object jump. You will take up skydiving anyway sooner or later in order to develop the skills that it will soon become apparent that you lack....that is if you don't hurt yourself first which is the most likely scenario. Good luck, try not to become a statistic, my money is on you joining the Base fatality list shortly.
StealthyB.

dude, it's simple.
skydiving is legal canopy experience. experience which is everything. Can you take up base jumping and learn as you go? sure. Are your chances of becoming seriously injured or killed exponentionally increased without said canopy skills? you bet.
You have gear, and i'm willing to bet that you already have some antennas scoped out near you. So, why do you ask whether or not you SHOULD base jump with zero experience? is it because you have an inkling of a doubt in your mind? You aren't sure if this is a good course of action. Listen to the little voice man, it'll save your life or at a minimum keep you out of a wheelchair. Just sayin. Plus skydiving is awesome and as someone else has said previously, it's all about the journey. If you jump into some shit you aren't ready for and live to brag about it, you have quite possibly missed the whole point.
be safe.
A.T.

The answer is simple Lambda. Get some skydiving experience first. Spend a couple of years doing this.

The ground does not care if you did not have enough money to spend learning skydiving & canopy control first.

Let me repeat, not having a lot of money is no execuse to get into BASE without the adequate experience. Failing to head this advice will more than likely cause you to have a serious accident.

Enjoy skydiving!

You know what's more expensive than AFF in Asia?

Hospital Bills.

he said he is not poor, just careful with his funds.

I'm guessing he is successful, has loads of self-confidence, lacks time, and wants to BASE. he is accustomed to getting what he desires.

but I wouldn't be surprised to learn I'm totally wrong...

Ok.

fox 220 with 42"pc ...

What size is on the label? It's not a 220.

Not buying it but ...how much do you weigh since you have a canopy in the 220 range and how are you proposing to jump that 170 foot bridge?

Do you have it in you to simply not type a typical dumb reply.

Let him answer.

agreed.
in this forum we want to be a bit kinder and gentler. we split it off hoping to separate newbies from the cynics.

thus, I removed the post from view.

Take a look at 1:18 :-) It will give you an idea. This wall is especially forgiving.
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

That was in Norway at K...d?

Yes at karlskråtind. We do not have any problem to name the Norwegian exits since they are legal there is no site naming problems.

I have seen unstable exits in many different forms even from very experienced skydivers in jumps and time in sport as well, it is not only due to new jumpers with low skydive experience.

I believe the bridge day video could give you a better picture of what I am talking about.

Everyone is entitled to a bad exit now and then, just not when it matters.

Well, you are very right! skydiving is NOT Base jumping...
The very moment one exits the plane one faces the relative wind...If one is jumping in a similar way in base where is 0 wind...one is going head down immediately.. no matter how many skydivings..

For me BASE have been a state of mind, seeking information and gaining experience enough to stay alive. Good luck on your journey. 10% of the jumpers i have met, did not make it, and now I am to one who tell stories about the old days.

see attached.

Congratulations, you just made it to the top of the list of "People I don't want to meet".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjgy0Q03Ooo

Thats great and true!