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Tracking chart
I think it would be very useful for everyone to have a chart on the first 12 seconds of tracking.
That should display the loss of altitude at a given time and for tracking with normal suits, tracking suits and wingsuits.
This would be extremely helpful in choosing the correct gear and right spot for one's skill and equipment.

In case there is already sth. like that...please let know..SmileCool
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Re: [juanitos] Tracking chart
not everyone tracks the same. differences in body shape, technique, winds, intimidating terrain, etc. make it quite variable.

this is why I believe developing your own personal judgment trumps calculations. I also think building on what YOU have done successfully before will enhance your confidence more than some chart.

ymmv.
Smile
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Re: [wwarped] Tracking chart
it's true that not everybody tracks the same...I am refering to an average tracker.
Well..a tracking suit and even more a wingsuit makes you fly earlier...in order to outrack a ledge..Cool
Some data would be useful..anyway!Smile
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Re: [juanitos] Tracking chart
Why the fuck would I want to use a chart of someone else's average tracking performance to figure out whether I could outfly a ledge?

You need to know how good you are - not how good everyone else is.
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Re: [jakee] Tracking chart
Yuri's wingsuit studio should be good for what you are looking for.
http://www.basejumper.com/...rum.cgi?post=2911175
I think this is the right link
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Re: [juanitos] Tracking chart
Dude, if you ever need to consult a chart to see if you can outtrack a ledge, please go jump something more forgiving. Smile
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Re: [jerry81] Tracking chart
CoolSmileTongue

YepWink
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Whoa, whoa
Doesn't each cliff come with its own manual? Unsure
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Re: [GreenMachine] Whoa, whoa
GreenMachine wrote:
Doesn't each cliff come with its own manual? Unsure

Your thinking of boots!
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Re: [GreenMachine] Whoa, whoa
GreenMachine wrote:
Doesn't each cliff come with its own manual? Unsure


many do!
(even if it is not exactly written down.)

by contacting locals, I recently learned how to jump a cliff and had a blast. watching them jump and open taught me stuff. no need to re-invent the wheel.
Wink
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Re: [GreenMachine] Whoa, whoa
ever heard about the topo?
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Re: [juanitos] Tracking chart
There's no chart that would be applicable to everyone. But what you can do is to gather information about yourself and then use it for your jump planning. Wingsuit Studio (link posted above) is a tool just for that. But more important than anything, this is rather a tool to say "NO" to a jump than to say "yes". This is a tool to say to yourself, "holy shit... and I was seriously thinking about making this jump?! hahaha... I can't believe I'm so stupid!" It's a sanity check.

Here's the idea behind it. With more and more experience, your jumps from the same or similar object start to become very repeatable - you pass over certain ledge or trees or other mountain features at pretty much the same height, you open above LZ pretty consistently at the same altitude... You can then talk about your average trajectory - your average, predictable performance. Using L/D Calculator tool, you can extract your very own flight characteristics in particular tracking suit or wingsuit. What L/D Calculator does, it tries to match your trajectory to theoretical trajectory in the assumption of constant flight mode (i.e. constant angle of attack and body position). In other words, it answers the question, "if an imaginary jumper that can maintain constant flight mode throughout the flight, were to arrive at the same point (X, Y) at the same time as you, what his flight characteristics would be?" Essentially, it approximates your real trajectory with calculated one. Since your jumps are very consistent, the results from L/D calculator will be converging to some average flight mode. Flight mode is a combination of horizontal and vertical sustained speeds normalized to sea level and standard temperature (15C) - simply put, it's a point on your polar curve.

Once you know your average flight mode in particular suit, you can (very cautiously, of course) use it to project your trajectory to other situations using Wingsuit Equations module. You can check, "if I had this much altitude and flew just like I usually fly, where would I be after 20 seconds? how does it look like in relation to mountain topo?" This can help you with your planning. Sometimes it makes sense to do a little analysis on the computer without even seeing the mountain with your eyes to realize that it makes no sense to go there as it would be a do-it-or-die jump than to actually go there and waste time and money and possible health and even life just to prove that equations were correct. Wink

Personally, I used this tool to say "NO" to a couple of jumps already and don't regret it (although that tempting voice, "don't be a PusSiE, just jump!" that you hear when researching the exit and throwing rocks, was very convincing and hard to resist). A questionable jump not made will definitely not kill you. There are so many beautiful mountains out there where you can have much higher margins for error that a little measurebation at the comfort of your toilet seat is totally worth it. Smile

Yuri
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Re: [yuri_base] Tracking chart
Yep..you are right! Thanks for all the inputs from everyone!SmileSmile