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Anyone have some info for me on Notch Peak? Legal or not legal? I`m getting different opinions and need facts. The hike in seems like a no brainer.How about the hike out?Landing area etc.... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hike in has technical parts, 5.8. ropes are a must. if you can park within 8 miles of the ascent you got lucky. totally illegal.

this is better than the "hey i am done with AFF take me base jumping" threads.

no brainer? one guy got rescued for getting lost hiking up, his buddy died on the jump.

If you have never been there, ONLY go with someone who has, and has done it successfully. it is NOT a europe. it is a LONG hike in, huge high consequence ascent, false exit points, positive walls, and nasty jump with crappy LZs, no outs, and dangerous fast changing mountain weather. Make no mistake, this one is a double black.

Edit: my first reply is a joke but not that far off.

http://www.basejumper.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

its a clicky. have a good read

please read the articles, lurk, read, search, etc.

we actively discourage naming sites, although there are exceptions. even rarer do we discuss these sites openly.

it doesn't appear that you realize this.

too many people want a quick fix and desire to avoid the work. if too much info gets posted, then it makes sites available to people who are just not prepared and likely to get hurt. you may be one of these people.

Calvin has it right.
Yes, it is illegal. The hike is anything but easy. Loose scree, deepwashes and zero natural water make the west desert one of the most unforgiving places around.
Many of the walls are slightly positive. The landings are at high altitude with no outs and serious hazards. There is no flat ground. Winds are almost always nuking because it is a big mountain in the middle of a very flat desert. No plants means the nights will be below freezing, even when the days are over 100. Any and all weather will run right into it.
Rescue is not much of an option with the nearest helicopter being hours away. Even a simple fracture could be fatal if you were stuck high on the talus/ledges.
I would rather travel to Europe than jump this wall in my 'backyard' because the trip would cost less than two broken legs.

Anway, good luck. Have fun and be safe.

Don't worry, it's not as bad as it looks, it's worse.
Hiked up 3 times, hiked down 3 times due to nuking winds.

That means something to me. Richard walks off, it's no good.





edit: typo

Really?? When did this happen?? this is news to me??illeagle!?

Hahaha, one of those times was unnecessary because some crazy Russian said to Richard, "Let's leave the rigs on top, tomorrow should be good."

Richard, we should try again some day. How you've been?

Me - 4 hikes, 1 jump... +1 more attempt when winds were not good (down the slope in landing area) when I hiked just half an hour (i.e. no wind early morning where I parked the car, 1/2hr later and ~500ft higher - 10mph down the slope)

To original poster: if you do go to Notch, hook up with locals...[removed details]


edited to remove details. because of the recent fatality there, I'm not that concerned about site naming. if jumpers contact the locals, the details are really unnecessary on a public forum -- wwarped

 

Oddly, contrary to all these reviews from negative Nancy types, I walked up there in 2004 with 3 friends and zero information from any previous jump loads, just a climbers book and a map that we got in Delta, UT on our way out there. It took 1 hour and 45 minutes, was not steep at all ad not tricky either. We found an exit despite the snow on top and jumped off. The landing zone was blue square to single black diamond, a true green circle (beginner area) by Aussie standards.

What a great place to go base jumping. Perhaps we were lucky.

Where was your slider?

Incredibly lucky apparently. That place is cursed and Im not just talking about what happened to Leroy either. So many bad things seem to go wrong there, or so i hear. Personally I don't have any interest in jumping there. Seems like too much bullshit. Too lazy.

Ha! Another great quote

Quick question. If its a 5.8 climb and ropes are a must, what gear would one need? Full set of cams, TCU's, bolting kit, tri-cams, some large hexes? What? Im being serious this time. Thanks.

Edit to add: Im not going, just absorbing.

Just a few quick draws and a 6mm rope. Its all bolted with pitons.

this is base jumper.com right?

Finally an experienced person on here .What a bunch of nitwits. I always tell people that basejumper.com is mostly for people who don`t really base jump. Its the first time(and the last) I have ever asked a question here. Thanks for your reply.

your are correct, kind sir. And considering that you list a 0 for your jumps in the profile, you did nothing to help the forums reputation.

I am also surprised that no one mentioned the poisonous snakes on the hike up.

Already read them but thanks.

JT & Dorkzone,
I have no doubt that both of you found the big choss heap to be a lot of fun, you are mountain folks with a lot of experience. You know how to read maps, weather forcasts and other sources of info.

Simply by asking the question, the OP demonstrated that he is on the opposite end of the spectrum. He can't go find the numerous climbing and peak-bagging websites that list every known face, wash and trail out there. This lack of sense is what will gets a lot of people into trouble.

slider was down... i has about 3 minutes canopy time to set up a landing.

edited to add: slider down. Not a bad choice for people's first visit there.

yep it is.

you seem surprised. I guess that indicates you did NOT lurk, read, search, etc. if you had, you would realize you are being treated the same as other newbies that apparently have little interest in helping themselves.

did you really expect to be treated seriously?

as always, feel free to point out where I'm wrong.




ps to all newbies:
experienced jumpers have put in a lot of effort to post information, the least you can do is put in effort to read it. why do people continue to ignore these efforts? do you think it shows respect?

^^ Do you think continuing to reply this way will gain forum participants?

that is not my primary concern.

I more concerned that ill-prepared, amped up, eager newbies getting hurt. unlike skydiving, there is no one in BASE to coddle newbies and walk them through the process. potential BASE jumpers need to be self-reliant.

also, if they can't react well to the wake up call given here, then I question how well they will react to a wall strike, broken leg, or other harsh reality.

Well if one of the best BASE jumpers on the planet
jumped Notch Peak slider down then it is obviously
NOT a slider-up object for newbies.

or he understands to start objects conservatively and then progress. go JT!

or AND he understands to start objects conservatively and then progress.

Fixed it

OR maybe he grabbed the wrong rig and didn't realize it till it was too late to get the slider up one...
OR maybe he was high man on a multi-way...
OR he thought he needed a 15 second rock drop for a slider up jump....

could be any number of things but conservative doesn't sound too much like the posts that are on here... although they are just that... posts on here

GET THIS GREEN FROG SHIT OFF OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Jumped it 2-16-04, after a horrendous 9hr hike up the NW side, got up so late that we were forced to bivy overnite in the snow,the next day we walked the ridge from the North, by the time we were over the North facing wall weather was approaching and we hadn't discovered a proven terminal exit route, so we repacked slider down and got the hell off of it, 4 min canopy rides, had never heard of any jumps previous to this date. Cohort on the jump was a very well known freesoloist who rapped over the wall but was a newby at the time(now known for his record setting WS flights. Have since returned and wingsuited it. No Country For Newbies!

this thing seems like a significant adventure. buyers beware.

it's funny since i'm from the urban jumping community and something like this requires much more careful planning.

was that Dean Potter?

the reason That I mentioned the individual with me was so that any one who might guess who it was would respect the mountain experience he had and realise that if he could find himself in a predicament at this site, then lesser mortals might show it the respect that it is due. we made the mistake of leaving snowshoes at the car and ended up wading through chest deep snow(OK he's pretty tall,he had an advantage there),our bivy was unplanned and it was a freezing night spent turningaway from and toward the fire every few seconds. He went over the wall on a 5mil rope without a harness anchored by myself and another lightweight, and when he couldn't determine the viability of a longer delay,(we were at the very peak over the Northface), we opted to get off slider down, from what is now the established exit point on the North side.Deadmanwalking took me back up there and showed me all the other exit pts. they have established. Leroy's decision still baffles me?