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Profile & Feather from Asylum
I have requested Marty for info on the new Profile container and new Feather canopy but he's busy right now and there's nothing other than a small picture on his site. After searching I can’t find much at all here or anywhere else.

Perhaps there are some test jumpers that can offer some comments:

1 - The Helium & Razor are longer, wider and flatter than standard rigs with the Razor being a stripped down version of the Helium. The Helium is slider up/down whereas the Razor is principally slider up.

Question - Is the Profile similar to the Helium or the Razor or neither?


2 - There are several statements that the Seven canopy fabric is really easy to pack with one jumper stating "the ease of packing is an energy saving and quality of life improving bonus that I cannot imagine living without now. I would never want to go back to packing thick and slimy fabric again"

Question - Does the same apply to the Feather which is a lightweight version of the Seven but uses completely different fabrics?


3 – Question - Is the Profile finished in terms of design etc or is it still undergoing trials.


I want to buy a lightweight, easy to pack system which is principally a slider up rig but can also be used for the odd slider down jumps. The Feather with Dacron in a Helium or possibly a Profile will do this but when?

Thanks in advance for any comments.

John
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
Yo man, I have jumped the Feather quite a bit, haven't used a Profile yet.

The feather is extremely easy to pack, The lightweight material is even easier than the Fabric used for the Seven. The ease of packing lightweight canopies is great benefit in my opinion.

You'll have to talk to Marty or someone who has one about the profile ,But as far as I know there is no reason not to jump it slider down, I don't see why you couldn't jump a Razor slider down either...
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
John_Scher wrote:
1 - The Helium & Razor are longer, wider and flatter than standard rigs with the Razor being a stripped down version of the Helium. The Helium is slider up/down whereas the Razor is principally slider up.
I do believe there is no SD/SU restriction on Razor. The only limitation comes in depending on which canopy is rigged to it.
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Re: [tr027] Profile & Feather from Asylum
tr027 wrote:
John_Scher wrote:
1 - The Helium & Razor are longer, wider and flatter than standard rigs with the Razor being a stripped down version of the Helium. The Helium is slider up/down whereas the Razor is principally slider up.
I do believe there is no SD/SU restriction on Razor. The only limitation comes in depending on which canopy is rigged to it.

To be more specific: limitation is based on the line set of the canopy. You can order dacron which has more give (also weight and bulk) if you want to SD with the canopy. The Spectra choice is for SU only. AFAIK at least.
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
Anyone jumping feathers for sub terminal slider up?
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
 

In reply to:
Question - Is the Profile similar to the Helium or the Razor or neither?

I'd have to say neither. It is not wider than standard rigs, although it is slightly longer. what you notice most is that it is slimmer...


In reply to:
2 - There are several statements that the Seven canopy fabric is really easy to pack.

the Feather is made from Porcher Sport PN9, which is the highest quality lightweight F111 fabric available. This expensive material (made in France) is part of the reason that the Feather costs a bit more. It is incredibly easy to pack: until you have experienced it you will not believe it.


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3 – Question - Is the Profile finished in terms of design etc or is it still undergoing trials.

It is nearly finished... very close...
As for SU/SD, the Feather/Profile will be the sexiest and most desirable low profile setup in the world, IMO. With Dacron lines the Feather is a very suitable SD canopy, and it has performed well for everyone using it to that purpose, myself included. For alpine SU jumps / WS jumps it is the perfect canopy.

To Udder: I have many subterminal slider up jumps on my Feather, what's your question? Feel free to PM me.
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Re: [udder] Profile & Feather from Asylum
I also have quite a few SU sub-terminal jumps on the feather. One of the reasons the Seven/ Feather stand out in my opinion is how predictable the openings are. Sub terminal, you open the nose and get nice, quick openings. Terminal, just roll the nose to get the type of opening you want. Very consistent and predictable...
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Re: [pgpilot] Profile & Feather from Asylum
Matt, any idea when Profile is going to be released? Any pictures of it anywhere besides the one small pic on the Asylum site?
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Re: [pgpilot] Profile & Feather from Asylum
I have a question on the Feather ? It says it can be used for the "occasional" slider down jump with dacron lines. How "occasional" are we talking ? Also, this fabric sounds slightly less durable than standard F111, so is it even worth it to jump it slider down ?
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Re: [shortleash] Profile & Feather from Asylum
shortleash wrote:
I have a question on the Feather ? It says it can be used for the "occasional" slider down jump with dacron lines. How "occasional" are we talking ? Also, this fabric sounds slightly less durable than standard F111, so is it even worth it to jump it slider down ?

I live in East Africa where we have a bunch of SD objects but hardly any SU objects. I sometimes travel to Europe on business and carry my rig for the purpose of making some SU jumps at Brento etc. During these travels I'm sometimes offered the odd SD jump. A lightweight system of this nature makes a lot of sense to me.

I also have a robust slider down system which remains in Kenya.

John (Kenya)
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
I'm just curious about the durability of this fabric. Say your going to get 400 jumps off this canopy and 1 slider down will wear the canopy that of 15 slider up. I would rather pass on the occasional SD and just go with the lighter spectra lines.
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Re: [John_Scher] system?
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I also have a robust slider down system

John, just for you buddy no green Smile

So you have a system? Do you mean a rig?
Or do you actually have a "system" because
if it is the latter I would love to hear more
since I do mostly low, slider-off jumps, thanks.
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Re: [yuri_base] Profile & Feather from Asylum
Yuri - Those photos of Terje wearing it are the only good ones out there so far.

Shortleash - Occasional as in, let's say, if all of the objects around your home are SD, then the feather will be in your second rig for when you go to SU object land. I've done about 10% of the 80+ jumps on my feather SD and it's doing fine...

As for 1 SU jump being worth 15 SD jumps... no, definitely not that dramatic. The material is quality and has excellent mechanical characteristics. What would age it far more would be stuffign it into your stash bag all wet (let's say wet as in landing on grass in the morning) and leaving it in the trunk of your car for a day. The fabric hates that. But it is very stable in terms of normal (SD or SU openings) use. Just take care of it - keep it clean and dry, don't let a bunch of dirt accumulate in the seams, etc. common sense stuff.
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Re: [pgpilot] Profile & Feather from Asylum
Very helpful info. Thank you
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Re: [shortleash] Profile & Feather from Asylum
I can also add that it somewhat more prone to abrasion and tears because of the thinness. But strength wise it is basically identical to normal f111. More care should be taken when pulling the canopy out of bushes and across rough surfaces.
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Re: [shortleash] Profile & Feather from Asylum
shortleash wrote:
I'm just curious about the durability of this fabric. Say your going to get 400 jumps off this canopy and 1 slider down will wear the canopy that of 15 slider up. I would rather pass on the occasional SD and just go with the lighter spectra lines.

I looked up and compared 400Ib Dacron vs. Spectra on the Paragear site and was surprised as are they both 1/8th inch diameter. The difference being Dacron weighs a bit more. The bulk is the same and the weight difference is negligible. Considering that Dacron enables SD jumps on the Feather I have opted for it.
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Re: [GreenMachine] system?
GreenMachine wrote:
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I also have a robust slider down system

John, just for you buddy no green Smile

So you have a system? Do you mean a rig?
Or do you actually have a "system" because
if it is the latter I would love to hear more
since I do mostly low, slider-off jumps, thanks.

Apologies Tom,

Just a standard rig that I use for SD jumps

John
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Re: [pgpilot] Profile & Feather from Asylum
pgpilot wrote:
Yuri - Those photos of Terje wearing it are the only good ones out there so far.

PG/Yuri - where are these pictures?

Is Terje a test pilot? What does he say about the Profile?

John
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Re: [John_Scher] Profile & Feather from Asylum
The Photo is on the front page of the Asylum website.

Heard from Marty that the rig turned out very nice, I forget the exact weight, but it was light. I think the total weight w/ a feather 260 was just under 8 Lbs? Not sure if he has jumped it yet...
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Re: [mfnren] Profile & Feather from Asylum
My Perigee Pro and BJ260 w/ZP comes in just under 18 lbs!!! (IIRC)