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With the recent fatality, I am curious about how people feel (and NOT looking to discuss the tragedy).

So, if you die on a jump, are you cool with others abandoning your remains?

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as for me, I doubt I'd abandon a fallen friend, but am not bothered if they'd leave me behind. no reason to compound the ugliness.

I am fine with misdemeanors but moving a dead body is
probably a fucking felony... plus where do you store them?

I think it depends on the circumstances. I've already had to deal with this situation before. That being said, I agree with JP and Kiki. The ethics of a crew I used to jump with back east was to leave the body, remove the gear if possible, and make an anonymous "payphone" call to the authorities to keep from burning the object and getting busted.

However, I would not want my family and friends to think that i killed myself on purpose, or even if they knew i didn't, I still wouldn't want them to have to go through that mess.

No good Samaritan laws I've ever heard of require someone give help, but rather protect those who do give help from being, for example, sued if they give help like a retarded monkey. Are there really laws that REQUIRE SOMEONE to act? If someone is drowning, no one is REQUIRED to save them, especially since there's the chance you could also drown. Being a god samaritan can be dangerous.

I would take his money and his gear, than strip him naked and make it look like someone raped him - that should get all the attention of the object........
If it was me going in, I would expect the same - and I am sure a couple of my friends would really like the raping part, cause they have tried a couple of times already.....

But I would wear a rubber.

But I would wear a rubber.

This is why my jump circle is very very small.

Leaving a buddy behind does nothing but lead the investigators to guess about what happened. They will find you if they want to. Especially when your other idiot friends start running their sucks. And trust me, an investigator will think you are a coward piece of shit and hunt you down like a dog. (I would have when I was a cop)

They will probably guess wrong about the circumstances surrounding the incident, and it will look bad on the sport.

I will notify the authorities, stay with my friend, explain to the investigators what happened in very specific detail, give them my buddy's full name and who needs to be contacted, offer my assistance, and say sir a lot.

If they want to charge me with something, so be it. They won't lie about my cooperation with the investigation, and you would have to be a complete moron to think they could stick manslaughter on you even if you dropped a PCA. I swear some of you mooks must have struggled through that GED. I can think of probably 2 or 3 BASE jumpers with more at stake than I from a legal standpoint (read security clearance), and none of them would shy away from a possible charge for getting busted.

It's troubling to me that there are so many fucking cowards out there BASE jumping. So scared of THE MAN that you would leave someone behind?

Don't ever expect to go on a jump with me if you're that big of a pussy about your chickenshit misdemeanor record or losing some gear. Man the fuck up - are you kids or adults? You tell me you're leaving me when I go in...go jump with yourself cheesedick. I don't roll with cowards.

My pact with buddies is this: You leave me and my family has to guess about what happened, and suffer through the questions they'll have to answer because you wouldn't...I will come back from the dead and skull fuck you and your mom, and your dog until you die.

THE MAN is my bitch. Go live in fear.

Step 1: Confirm I am DEAD
Step 2: get rig off of my DEAD body
Step 3: run
Step 4: find pay phone to inform the Po Pos of dead body
Step 5: Rock, Parachute, Hook Knife for my rig
Step 6: Send out my letters

This is why my jump circle is very very small.

Leaving a buddy behind does nothing but lead the investigators to guess about what happened. They will find you if they want to. Especially when your other idiot friends start running their sucks. And trust me, an investigator will think you are a coward piece of shit and hunt you down like a dog. (I would have when I was a cop)

They will probably guess wrong about the circumstances surrounding the incident, and it will look bad on the sport.

I will notify the authorities, stay with my friend, explain to the investigators what happened in very specific detail, give them my buddy's full name and who needs to be contacted, offer my assistance, and say sir a lot.

If they want to charge me with something, so be it. They won't lie about my cooperation with the investigation, and you would have to be a complete moron to think they could stick manslaughter on you even if you dropped a PCA. I swear some of you mooks must have struggled through that GED. I can think of probably 2 or 3 BASE jumpers with more at stake than I from a legal standpoint (read security clearance), and none of them would shy away from a possible charge for getting busted.

It's troubling to me that there are so many fucking cowards out there BASE jumping. So scared of THE MAN that you would leave someone behind?

Don't ever expect to go on a jump with me if you're that big of a pussy about your chickenshit misdemeanor record or losing some gear. Man the fuck up - are you kids or adults? You tell me you're leaving me when I go in...go jump with yourself cheesedick. I don't roll with cowards.

My pact with buddies is this: You leave me and my family has to guess about what happened, and suffer through the questions they'll have to answer because you wouldn't...I will come back from the dead and skull fuck you and your mom, and your dog until you die.

THE MAN is my bitch. Go live in fear.

This is why my jump circle is very very small.

Leaving a buddy behind does nothing but lead the investigators to guess about what happened. They will find you if they want to. Especially when your other idiot friends start running their sucks. And trust me, an investigator will think you are a coward piece of shit and hunt you down like a dog. (I would have when I was a cop)

They will probably guess wrong about the circumstances surrounding the incident, and it will look bad on the sport.

I will notify the authorities, stay with my friend, explain to the investigators what happened in very specific detail, give them my buddy's full name and who needs to be contacted, offer my assistance, and say sir a lot.

If they want to charge me with something, so be it. They won't lie about my cooperation with the investigation, and you would have to be a complete moron to think they could stick manslaughter on you even if you dropped a PCA. I swear some of you mooks must have struggled through that GED. I can think of probably 2 or 3 BASE jumpers with more at stake than I from a legal standpoint (read security clearance), and none of them would shy away from a possible charge for getting busted.

It's troubling to me that there are so many fucking cowards out there BASE jumping. So scared of THE MAN that you would leave someone behind?

Don't ever expect to go on a jump with me if you're that big of a pussy about your chickenshit misdemeanor record or losing some gear. Man the fuck up - are you kids or adults? You tell me you're leaving me when I go in...go jump with yourself cheesedick. I don't roll with cowards.

My pact with buddies is this: You leave me and my family has to guess about what happened, and suffer through the questions they'll have to answer because you wouldn't...I will come back from the dead and skull fuck you and your mom, and your dog until you die.

THE MAN is my bitch. Go live in fear.

I obviously dont hardly post here much, just lurk and try to learn but in this instance i think i can help clear some thigs up as per what to do regarding CONFIRMING death, since yall talk about making sure so and so is dead before you leave him. First off get down there as fast as you can, and check for a carotid pulse(the one in your neck), if there is any possibility of them still having a pulse that is where it will be. And dont just do like the movies and check for 3 seconds call it and walk away. REALLY CHECK for a solid 30 seconds at least. if your buddy does have a pulse its likely to be weak so make sure its there or absent. Next get to his head and put 2 fingers under each side of his jaw, right below his ears and pull straight up. This is called a jaw thrust. Then pu your ear about 1/2" from his mouth and while looking at his chest listen feel and look for respirations. Do this again for a solid 30 seconds. If your biddy has EITHER of those then hes not dead and you better be getting on the phone with someone with some further medical training to get him out.


Yes im sure most of you guys already knew what i was talking about and are questioning why i posted all that but im sure someone out there didnt. (and yes i know there arw a thousand "what if's" possibilities, and i did leave out alot of details, figured id try to keep it as simple as i could). Hope this helps.

And for future reference only paramedics(not EMT's or first responders) can confirm death, after evaluating an ECG monitor, along with evaluation of other criteria. Alot goes into a medic calling a field death.

Maggot had a better way. He'd just bang you in the ass. If you started screaming then you weren't dead.

If Im dead, I already lost the game, so I hope that my jump buddies would do what's best for them and whats best for the sport.