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I need help deciding between Atair O.S.P or Flik V-Tec . I want to jump for now from 1 to 8 second delay no terminal jumps . can someone help . if you have either canopy i would love some advice and info . thanx

I have had a few jumps on a OSP 265 and am now jumping a FliK 266 VteC with HTS.

I havn't found much difference in the openings, both are absoloutly cracking. Where I have found the difference is in the flight. I find there is much more glide in the FliK and can cover more distance relitavly. It also sinks well on deep brakes, but takes more 'skill' to get it into a tight DZ than the OSP. The OSP feels much more forgiving when flying close to the stall point.

For me personally, I like the FliK/Vtec/HTS.

However a comparison between the OSP and the new APEX FOXxs would probably be more apprpriate

Thats just my pennys worth, Also it might help if you fill out a little more on your profile.

I'm wondering what continent you live on. it might make a difference if the canopy gets damaged and needs repair. I like being able to simply send it back to those who built it. plus the currency thing.

I live in florida

Do you have a mentor? Maybe talk to them.

Since you live in Florida you might consider
Morpheus Technologies --> http://baserigs.com

They are closer, have great products, and
you'd be supporting a local manufacturer.

Cuz all i really want is a helium or gargoyle & a canopy for basic base jumping . i just want to jump from perrine or bridge day & Some tall antennas down here in miami . what about the basic troll without vents ??????? any info

The best decisons are based upon experience. Find a Mentor,ground crew, do a FJC, jump a Troll,jump a FliK and then make your mind up.

When I first replied to your post I was giving you the benifit of doubt, thinking that maybe you had recently started Base Jumping. My mistake.

And like Tom says, Morpheous is pretty local to you and would be a good start.

I've done a base course last month just looking for the best possible canopy for me . i know kathy heck i was there this past saturday talking to her about it but i just want feedback from people who jump those canopies regularly . i'll probably get 2 rigs , helium/OSP & Apex DP/Flik Lite

Best possible is very hard to say. If you need a great all around canopy then Helium with Troll DW of course that is what I have. If you have the cash to have a quiver of rigs and gear then of course Helium/Troll DW and maybe another Helium or Genesis/OSP. From my understanding is meant for low opening tight spots so you can fly in deep breaks and have a strong powerful flair in the end, not necessarily to cover long distances more of a steeper angle of attack. Call Kathy or email her at morpheus she is honest and will give you the real skinny. Like the Trango compliments the razor. So to me if all you can afford is one rig and one canopy Helium/TrollDW all day long. For me I don't know if there is that much of a difference between the Troll and Flick to not get the troll just for the cost savings of buying a package. I am sure some would argue against that point.

OSP was designed so to cover the areas were the approach need to be steep, were jumper deal with tight landing area. The canopy with good flight near stall point can NOT be at the same time the ultimate canopy for gliding. It is impossible to do so as aerodynamics are very precise science. Canopy with great glide always has much more sensitive stall point and sinks faster ( not at the beginning but after few seconds the vertical speed increase a lot ) I am not talking about the flare here. Flare is powerful as the horizontal speed transfers in to low vertical component. I am talking about the general characteristic of the BASE canopy w good glide being not that good at steep approach as vertical speed increase.
Good example are accuracy canopies as ParaFoil Classic , etc... it is easy to notice the tick profile and not so good glide sas the main characteristic of such canopies.

OSP is the canopy for ''urban jumping'', were the landings are tight and were there is no need to fly far to get the landing, were there is no high wind ( usually people aren't jumping in windy conditions )
OSP main characteristic is the fastest pressurization at opening in comparison to any BASE canopy on the market and very good steep approach characteristics ( very low vert. speed , very stable in deep brakes- does not slide - both are borrowed characteristics from accuracy canopies :) )

It is totally possible to use the OSP for slider up jumps too, without any problems, however, the main goal for OSP is slider down low objects type of jumps.
Troll DW with MDV or without are better choice for overall BASE canopy.

http://basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2918934;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

thats a thread i just put up about the MDV troll, or the BJ, some good info on comparable canopies.

i've jumped 22 meters in OSP !!!! fantastic canopy!!!

That's impressive! How was the landing, in water or over solid ground? What deployment method was used? Dbag, PCA, SL? And most important : Where is the video? :)

this is off 29m, but I bet #1044 can go lower...
http://www.basetroll.com/osp29m.html
Respect Bro!!!

Yes, I have seen that before and it is impressive as well. Respect for that. But still, 22m is 7m lower (which in this range is huge difference). I personally have some experience in the 30'ish range but personally have decided that over solid ground 30m is my hard deck and won't go from lower than that. So that's why I would be really interested about hearing the details (deployment method, object, canopy, wingloading, brake setting, etc) and also seeing the video (if available).

the jump was in dbag! landing was solid ground! [;)]

d-bag... instant canopy, just add air.

d-bag... instant canopy, just add air.

I know, I know, they are not real BASE jumps.

Nonetheless have you ever done a TARD?

If so how does a TARD & D-bag compare?

one is totally awesome!

"??????"

d-bag is amazingly fast is my only point.

What I was getting at was that I have
dozens of TARDs and static line jumps
and know that both are very fast but
have never used a D-bag hence was
simply asking for a comparison.