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Hey just a thought , how do we know or confirm that people that submit for a BASE No are not just making the whole event up just to get a number ??
Im sure some loser must have tried it in the past !!

To get your BASE number you must
submit the location, data, time, and
altitude of all four qualifying jumps.

Sure, some lame douche bag could
lie but what would it be worth??!

Hell, I have caught liars in a bar
saying "when I open my parachute
I really go way up" and busted them.

There is quite a lot of people who don't even care about base numbers.

I'm one of them but I suppose the system with base numbers is based mostly on trust.

Maybe you need someone to verify if there is any questions but it's still just a number.

It doesn't make you a better jumper :)

An interesting question: are you allowed to call yourself a base jumper without the base number or without jumping all four categories?

I agree, mostly those without a "B".
Take care,
space

Yeah but i think if you got down the the real deal and had a way of spotting the bull the % of numbers given out to date could be as much as 25% lower !!
True it is only a number but i hate the thought of people abusing the system to try and be/look "cool" even if it only in their own mind !
Nobody likes a cheat after all and this is the only sport i can think of where you cant really cheat haha unless you get down to the numbers

Pmsl

BASEwish, I disagree.

Like Space wrote, many guys could care less about getting
their BASE number... I would guess almost all Americans
who jump all 4 objects get their number and many in other
countries do also but... some skip it out of laziness or don't
care and some just lack a building, which for many is the
toughest object to get.

Maybe your right maybe things do even them selves out but i bet at least 1 person out there doesnt deserve their number. People lie , even in BASE

Hey Tracy,
I got my B and still don't care about the number.
But I can relate to the people who do.

If somebody lied about a jump to get their number I guess they couldn't ever be proud or whatever about it.

I would be VERY surprised if 1% of them were lies.

I will give you a prostitute and a bag of blow if you find me more than 5 people who you can get to admit they do not have their "BASE #" jumps.

I will give you a prostitute and a bag of blow if you find me more than 5 people who you can get to admit they do not have their "BASE #" jumps

Im jut throwing it out there see what you good folks have to say

how big is the prostitute?

Hahahaha !!

"i'm not a number, i'm a free man!"

I think a lot of people lack the simple motivation to jump B's as they think they are hard to access.

I think a lot of people lack the simple motivation to jump B's as they think they are hard to access.
Good. They are scary, they are dangerous. access is only the first step. I love urban jumps, more than anything, they are frightening and rewarding. But the less people out there jumping buildings in the dark the better.

Really it comes down to where you live.
In Europe Earths seem easy but here in
Flat Land Antennas are the easiest.

Here is my current break down:

Type....Objects....Jumps
B...........3...........31
A..........14...........58
S..........2............55
E..........1.............3
O..........2.............4
Total.....22...........151
Opened....11

Speaking of bullshit, always discount
the numbers from a jumper who does
not log, too easy to over-estimate

regardless how this may sound there in US , reality is that BASE is changing a lot day by day! More and more jumpers really does not care about the BASE number at all. Also, number of jumpers who jump SU jump only growing fast.

I lied to try to get 1313...missed it by 8...those fuckers

I agree that people who don't log can't accurately say how many jumps they have, but I also think logging is dumb. Do most skiers log the number of runs in a day/in a lifetime? Do skateboarders the number of times they drop in on the halfpipe? Do climbers log the number of routes they've climbed in a lifetime?

I think logging is just another form of dick waving(not always but for the most part) and I really don't care how many jumps I have or how many someone else has. To me BASE is about the memories that I take away from all of my jumps and about the people that Ive done them with, not about how many log books I can fill up with all the jumps Ive ever done. Once I had enough skydives to be able to jump my wingsuit I stopped logging those too, I just think that jump numbers are much more irrelevant than most people believe.

To all who like to log their jumps, that is great too I just think its kind of silly. I guess in one way it would be nice to go back and leaf through it and maybe relive each jump better that way if you need it to draw upon, but its more work than its worth to me.

Once I hit 1,000 skydives I quit logging in books
because it was more than enough to qualify for
any rating, plus it is time consuming, tedious,
and I did not like paying $12 per book.

However I do still keep track, for free & quickly,
using 2 Excel spreadsheets. I have posted both
the SKY and BASE versions I use and would be
more than happy to share them again.

For skydiving, I am a tandem master and it is
nice to be able to tell passengers exactly how
many I have and how few cutaways, etc.

For BASE, I am 37, married, have busted knees,
climb slowly, do not live in Twin Falls or Europe
so I KNOW my dick and my number of jumps will
ALWAYS be smaller... it is much more a way to
remember who I shared jumps with, how many
jumps I have on a particular pilot chute, record
my occasional mishaps, rare off headings, etc.

As a climber I have to say that for YEARS I have logged every route I've climbed. For exactly what you stated. . .My notebook has a better memory than me. . .

I smoke too much weed to NOT log my jumps

I've yet to see a BASE number used for anything of significance. it tends to be personal and can establish a jumper on the timeline.

if less choose to apply, so?

the BFL details the only numbers I find significant in BASE. I don't want one, and hope not to earn one.

Easy on the logging, i'm not a liar, and i don't jump just to increase my jump number. I keep track of my milestone jumps, usually on google earth, and i use this website's profile function to track my jump / object numbers, which i update after every jump. My numbers are accurate, not that it matters to me at all. one reason i keep is because people seem to look for experience level when communicating. So maybe i kinda log, but i dont write all kinds of shit down in a book, because i honestly don't care. Nothing against anyone who does log, just isnt for me

same w/ skydiving - i quit logging at like 300ish, and just got printouts from dz for the next 150-200 jumps. i'm sure i missed a few, but i don't skydive so i can say i skydived x many times.

this topic definitely falls into the "who cares?" category.

man, if i'm on my death bed from a terminal illness, i want someone to strap a rig on me and toss me off an object (literally, 2 guys throw me and i won't pull). that way i die with style.

do you remember that old joke that if you're going in, take off you shoe and put it down in your pants near your crotch, that way it confuses the fuck out of everyone trying to understand what went wrong and how the fuck a shoe migrated from your foot all the way to the inside of your pants?

this is second hand, but a friend of mine told me about some douche in a bar that was scheming chicks telling them he was a skydiver. Small town, and my buddy knew all of the local jumpers, so he started quizzing the guy.
**"What kind of jumping do you do?"
...well, i'm kind of high-speed, so i'm into advanced free-fall (AFF). I have over a thousand jumps!
**"What kind of gear do you have?"
I have a 29 square foot speed sail.
**"What else are you into?"
Well, uhh...I'm just really into skydiving, man...I like to practice folding my sail for hours!!

well than what better way to remeber than writing it all down?

my baselogbook/scrapbook is a great way to look back, and revisit old friends who arent with us anymore..

I've never really logged much of anything, sky or base. I have 300 of my skydives that were made over the course of 2 years all logged in a single space in my "log book", stuffed with a stamped A license application, and completed B, C, D, Coach, and PRO rating applications/tests filled out and stamped/signed by my old DZO but never sent in. That, and my USPA card that is renewed only when I show up at a dropzone is the extent of my parachuting paper trail, and I don't really care enough to make it any more official than that.

But I do sometimes wish I could flip back through a logbook and see what I would have written for certain jumps, and also to remind myself of ones I've forgotten. There are always those moments where you think "Damn, I'll never forget this.... that was incredible!", but then you end up forgetting them anyway. The worst part is that you never really know what slips your memory, but if you just had a faint reminder of it, it would all come rushing back.

Then again, there are many jumps that I still do remember, and I live for and look forward to those jumps that I'm going to make, rather than the ones that have already passed.

True, I am the same.

I smoke too much weed to NOT log my jumps

ditto

fair enough....you don't wanna know the shit i told chicks in bars.

I didn't have to lie about it, and I got it :)

i log mostly to keep track of wear and tear on my huge assortment of gear.

like GM said... people who don't log, seem to have a lot more jumps than they really do..

and their gear has a lot less on it when selling...

weird how that works.

yay cant beat a nice bit of negative energy

You'd be 1312 if he handn't lied about it. You lucked out.

precisely

I guess I should say thanks then! Or will the number be the death of me one day....

Thats a good question...but I'll cough up $13 bucks if you wanna trade ;-)

hey wait,, im 1312 !!! if my buddy had lied that he had his E, i woulda got 1313... damn u rich :)

i got $14

1312

I don't think it is negative energy, actually. I think it is just someone pointing out that they have a good time regardless. seems like positive vibes to me.

$15

If i didnt care why take the time to post a message

good point

Maybe they want you BASEnumber fetishists to know that they don't have to brag all day long about their achievments or they're just jealous - just choose what ever you want ;)

I'm the jealous type!

NO BULL in BASE LETTERS

Fun post to read, but Joy and I read all the BASE app letters and share emails. In my opinion, we have never had a totally false application. We may have, but I've been jumping since 1971. I've heard every story in bars. I've had guys tell me that they jumped through their apex on rounds in the old days. We use the honor system, mainly because I don't really think most people would fake being a BASE jumper. Maybe a skydiver. I have sent questions back if there was something that seemed out of line, like cliffs in Indianapolis. Turned out to be quarrys, righteous. I bet no more than one percent are fake and most of those would only be exaggerartions like cranes for B's or smokestacks. I've heard every BS excuse there is and I feel like all 1370+ BASE numbers are pretty legit. Too bad some others don't bother to apply but I feel most still do. There is a certain pride and ethic being tied back to Carl Boenixh and the ideals he wanted to promote with BASE jumping. It's a real celebration of pushing the human spirit to new and exciting heights. History is replete with explorers like this. BASE will never be really understood by normal people. BELIEVE ME, I've been jumping since 71 and BASE since 82 and I know none of us are normal people. We have needs others can't come close to understanding. Not their fault, they are probably the "normal ones". Too BAD. Live life guys and just accept the fact that you are REALLY different from most. Never forget that fact. In a way, it makes you superior, in everything you do, business. law, confidence, etc. Embrace it. Always remember, there is no better way to celebrate the human spirit than to make a beautiful BASE jump.
Cliffleaper

i pulled the string and whammo, my BASE chute came out after jumping from 70 feet and i went back up in the air, like you see on TV!

And thank you for all you've done. And I think you're right about the pride to earn your base number would outweigh cheating to get it.

Nic