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I for one would like to see TLN banned from this forum for life and her venomous posts deleted.

I do not see why in the name of freedom of information or free speech we should tolerate this outsider who is only amusing herself with us.

Let's stand together and say: 'Enough! You, go play somewhere else.'

Please post below to confirm what you voted, that way we can tell how many times TLN manages to vote to keep herself on here.

Thank you for your kind co-operation.
Dankie vir U kind se kop-operasie.

Sam

Yes. Out. Please make this annoying person dissapear.

I chose to evict that [personal attack] Tizzy for life.



I can't let that one slide. -- wwarped

I agree with the african. we have enough silly/stupid trolls coming here, no reason to subsidize someones unhealthy obsession with BASE jumping.

it is BASEJUMPER.com right? With no interest in jumping or really being involved, what is her motivation for being here? If it is for profit or using BASE jumpers, then out. Cya.

Good riddance - An expression of pleasure on being rid of some annoyance - usually an individual.

Yep.

 

believe me, I find no joy in attempting to moderate the bitter exchanges that inevitably crop up. those posts, the constant stream of naive newbies, the drunken babble, etc. all contribute to annoyingly high noise levels.

heck, threads crop up about the noise levels fairly often...

potential solutions include:
- users increase the signal by posting positive content. TLN's pieces fill a vacuum that no one else wants to fill. they actually start off stronger than most threads, but descend into acrimony after 1/2 dozen posts or so. I dread reading them, wondering when the pleasant compliments will turn ugly.
- users refrain from making comments. when has any critical comment actually helped? many here love to argue as much as she does. everyone wants to have the last word.
- management disables her account.

you're requesting the last option. while it might be appropriate, let's not forget the other 2!

these forums evolve based on how the users choose to post. it's a shame so many would rather add to the noise...

if you don't think there is blame enough to go around, then go watch NickDG's lastest video. now that is some funny shit!


stoopid typos...

I voted no. I honestly think, if anyone here wants themselves to be seen positively by nonjumpers, banning someone who is not a jumper and actually is interested by it in a non-active way is just silly.

I have no interest in doing any jumps myself, but I am interested in the people, watching the jumps, and learning more about it.

Is it really that hard to not read/comment on her threads? She does not hold guns to peoples heads to make them read her articles. A lot of this anti-non-jumpers makes me feel like I shouldn't comment here, too, for fear of being hated by people I respect for no real reason.

I also find it odd that in a thread started basically as a personal attack 980, you call TLN's posts venomous. What about this thread ISN'T venomous? What's wrong with outsiders being interested by BASE jumping, and finding personal enjoyment from being around it? It's not a freedom of speech thing--this is a privately owned board. When I registered the site DIDN'T tell me I HAD to be a jumper to be a member.

And as someone who participates in an activity where you are often not welcome at certain sites, using the sentence "Enough! You, go play somewhere else." honestly amuses me.

Can I replace cunt with bitch???

I have let a lot slide in other threads because the harshness felt like it emerged from commentary regarding her work.

either proposed term feels directed more at the person.

look at it like the BFL. so many on it made stupid, idiotic, crappy, fucked-up judgments. so? they might still have been a friend...

when criticizing decisions and acts, it provides the target with an opportunity to admit a mistake and learn. when directing the attack at a person, few will NOT become defensive.

I believe it is a subtle, but significant difference.

If Tizzy stays, then we should all simply go to Blinc. I'm actually enjoying the "jumpers only" forum over there lately.

Non-jumpers are more than welcome here. Psycho-angry-mental non-jumpers aren't as accepted (go figure).

Please see the suggestion I made in the other thread:

http://www.basejumper.com/...post=2914706#2914706

This is a matter of self-discipline. Even if she has none, we can all demonstrate that we do, at least as to this extent.

 

1) if you do so, she will view that as a "win."
2) it may limit the non-jumper noise, but does it actually enhance the signal?
3) jumpers tend to turn on themselves. consider the negative posts about Leroy in his thread... isn't that what chased most away from BLiNC in the first place?

get enough BASE jumpers in a room and the alpha-male competition begins... who's the best? who's doing the sickest jumps? who has the most amazing video? etc. fragile egos shatter, and the bickering resumes...

right now, jumpers are relatively united because of one person.

i'm less concerned with being the alpha male than any of you.

I vote out but would settle for probation if she'll change her sig line to:

"Never let the facts get in the way of a good story"

I thought that was already the general mission statement of the current media.

I don't think the guys over at Blinc would put up with her crap for the sake of a few extra google ad impressions. I want to talk with my fellow BASE jumpers - not some psycho non-jumper bozo. You moderators are really missing the big picture here, which is why many jumpers have gone elsewhere. If Tizzy stays, then I'm not interested in reading your forum anymore. Hell yes, I'll gladly go exclusively to Blinc if your corporate ad revenue is deemed to be more critical. And, being a person who occasionally purchases ads here, I'll take that to Blinc as well.

Do I really care what Tizzy psycho thinks? Nope.

PS. Blinc will be at Bridge Day 2009 as a sponsor, supporting BASE jumpers. Exactly where has NameMedia supported jumpers?

Indeed. year and a half of working for the media showed me that what i saw in person and what got put on TV were always different stories

 

True, but some will. And I'll feel better not having to read her venom. Gotta run.....lots of BD work to do and only 4 weeks left. Cya.

yep


An username and account?


same as above


same as above


Yep. Because I realized I was being whiney, unfair and not adding anything useful, so I asked for them to be removed.




trust me on this one, it is far better to meet those people in person and talk about these things while hiking to the exit point, climbing or just hanging out



You are only half right.

Just because I live in Canada doesn't mean I was born here.

You should get some votes for banning me, as my non-North American culture, humour and demeanor doesn't go over all that well in North America, especially online.

cya
(at an exit point hopefully, because after all, it's not amateurwriter.com)
Sam

at an exit point hopefully, because after all, it's not amateurwriter.com

ha ha

for what it's worth...
- I can't disable her account
- I'm a volunteer (not even a jump pass)
- I know nothing about revenues or ads
- I actually don't see any ads (thanks to add-ons)
- I have never seen a mission statement.
- the most significant guidance I've got here came from reading "The Rules."

thus the corporate concern always makes me laugh!

as far as this forum being open to non-jumpers, it seems to have helped in the case of Leroy. many non-jumpers created accounts. even the Medical Examiner joined. I wish it weren't so, but happy if it helped.

I think you need to read the responses to her various posts before using the word "most."

After that, I think you should also read Jason's posts again and then read hers--each alone, not in context--before using the phrase "between you and tizzy."

Jason really has nothing to do with this--had it not been him, it would have been someone else. Has been someone else, in fact. As I understand it, he's just the lastest object of a long run of conflict, all of which centers around TLN.

Then I think you should watch this video (everyone should--it's 3 minutes and 46 seconds of enlightenment, albeit with really, really bad music)...

http://www.youtube.com/...ture=player_embedded

Edited to add the other possibility:

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=channel

Although it could be a combination of both, because they lie on a continuum.

After that, you can decide if a few base stories that you could easily hear firsthand by contacting the parties involved in the actual events is worth the price it extracts for a secondhand rendering.

Finally, take note of the fact that an educated reader might be of the opinion that there is a legal issue involved. I doubt that those who have possibly been libeled much care to pursue it, but just because one does not pursue legal remedies does not mean they do not exist.

I don't think she should be banned--I've already spoken my piece about that--but playing into her efforts to cause chaos and schism here is not the answer either.

rl

Some excellent points.

1. Put the pen down
2. Put a rig on.
3. Jump off something really fucking huge...

..Do this hundreds of times..
..time and time again!

Read ya then.....

Here's to kicking puppies!!!!!!

go to a DZ and meet some locals. if youre not an idiot youll be fine.

I do agree that anybody's venomous post should be removed. But what do you think about TLN interviews?

Why did you bring it up on my interview? Not like I really care, but I was not the 1st interview she did.

Free speech does not exist on a private forum.
If she bothers you so much, do not click on her posts duh! Except for her interviews with cool jumpers such as Rick Harrison.
You have the choice of what you choose to click on or does the click choose you?
Actually, you have the power to choose. and there is a button on your computer called "power" (coincidence?). Use it.
Take care.
space

Well, I think I'd rather talk to you than read what someone else has to say about you, but that's an entirely different matter.

I, for one, don't trust her interviews on several different levels.

In spite of saying I would not read anything else she wrote, I read her interview with you...because it was you.

I liked everything you had to say--all the parts that were actually you--but she did not capture the person I know you to be. In the absence of insight into your personality, I would much prefer to hear your stories firsthand.

I voted yes. I want her to leave, but a sick little part of me wants her to stay so I can hear what Para_frog has to say next.

In solviet russia, link clicks YOU!

Hi Space

Maybe it was not clear, but if you read the first line in my post, I said her venomous posts should be removed. I implied and meant that all her non-venomous posts (mostly the interviews) should stay.

I certainly did not do this as a response to your interview, the little I read of your interview was good reading and there is no connection there.

I did it because I was just finally so sick of logging on here to see what's up with Leroy and not getting any news, checking the other threads while I'm here only to find her having a go at Jason.

That said, it was far better happening upon you and DarkFear at the end of stroncolo in the waist deep snow than reading about some experience on the internet.

one question, though

you say to take care, well....










where should I take it!

cya
sam

not sure anybody will even get anything outa this but please feel free to pm me or add to ur response. i dont wana thread jack tho. anyways here goes. i started my quest for base over a year ago to attempt to gain a greater dose of the incredible feeling i get when i lean out the plane door skydiving. i need it! that feeling is my zen! made a cpl attempts at my first jump but it looks like this sunday will be my day. it has taken a good bit of time and effort to get "in" but i'm sure it will be worth it. i'm glad basejumper was here to aid in my search !BUT! i'd be willing to put in more time and effort to get "in" if i knew it would make this gift more private and secretive!!! just seems like it makes info too readily available for too many dumbshits to take advantage of and possibly be able to kill this! i'v taken quite a few sports to a fairly high level and it's depressing how rich D-BAGS can ruin love for a sport and the love of a sport!!! with this being by far the least forgiving thing i think the more secretive and private the better. i think for the most part base is still very undercover but the more people that get "in" the more possibilities for destruction become. having typed for an hour now its time for my point and apology for typing so much bs. i voted "who" having not read any of her posts that i can remember. just kinda makes my point that maybe jumpers should hav a place for jumpers only that u can only access by knowing enough other jumpers to be given access to the site! the harder it becomes to get "in" the more "core" we make the base population. keep it pure! [personal attack] free! thats my 25 cents :D




again, I can't let that slide... -- wwarped

WTF?
When did BASE jumpers start getting so cozy with media that they started doing interviews anyway? If I want to get to know a jumper I'll go jumping with them when I get the chance.

For someone (especially someone who doesn't jump) to spew the shit she was about a jumper, while their family and friends are fearing for his life and safety shows exactly her lack of integrity, a journalist without integrity is dime-a-dozen scum looking for 15 minutes of fame riding on the coat tails of someone with the heart to live their own life.
~J
981
RIP LeRoy

From the beginning is when. Feb. 17th 1989 was when my first interview took place. What makes BASE jumpers so exclusive? Back it on up to Joe Kittinger for his jump in 1960. Back it up to the whenever any one did anything extraordinary. What is the reason for interviews? Could it be that it is to introduce persons to people who would maybe like to meet them?
I write this with tears in my eyes, not because of this thread but because I just ate a burrito with the dreaded Dorset Naga chili in it. The hottest chili known to the general public. Some guy from Dorset, UK played with hybridizing chilies from India and if I could have read an interview with him, I may would not be in so much pain now. I also may have took 1st place in the Munich chili cook-off.
That is the value of interviews.

I totally agree with you and others about anyone spewing crap about anyone online. One should be responsible and liable for every statement that one makes online or in life.

Anyways check out the attached photo of Joe K. and I who I would have never met had he not did an interview. He was/is my hero from my encyclopedia devouring childhood between the ages of 7-9 yrs old.
Take care,
space

It could happen soon.
Take care,
space

<sigh>
I wish it were that simple...

if I were to remove her harsh posts, I'd have to remove everyone else's as well. that might include posts with valid criticisms, and the thread would become impossible to follow with tons of holes.

then, I guarantee that someone would gripe about the heavy-handed censorship. people would then say if you want to avoid censorship, go to BLiNC.

yeah, all the negativity sucks big time. it's like I'm house sitting for a giant open house. lots of folks come on in and trash the joint. then others complain about the mess! and NO ONE volunteers to help clean it up.

look in the mirror! do you think people logging on to learn about Leroy want to read this thread that YOU started either?

in BASE:
if you want a positive outcome, establish personal standards and self discipline.
on these forums:
if you want a positive outcome, establish personal standards and self discipline.
(practice and develop those skills!)



edited to add...

the "NO ONE" seems harsh. fatigue and an adrenalin post jump crash probably were getting to me...

oops.

Hi wwarped.
Thank you for your efforts. Respect dude!
Take care,
space

Here a picture with one of my BASE heros and me...
By the way, this was not the first (or second...) Mass
like I said before, tracy you'r the man

SHE'S A WITCH!!!! BURN HER!!!!

Hi Tracy,

Not to crap in your Chili, but . . .

I recall an "interview" Joe did back in the 1980s that always stayed with me. During the questioning he was asked what he thought of the "new sport" of BASE jumping. It was a logical question from the stand point of altitude extremes. He being on one end of the scale and us often being on the other. So I sat up, ready for some interesting pearls of wisdom and an interesting perspective. And it was interesting all right.

I thought he might liken the two things to man's insatiable thirst to conquer his dreams of flight. I thought he might say the two things had some commonality as far as research and development goes. And I thought he might say, after years of receiving accolades himself, something like wow, BASE jumping's pretty wild and my hat's off to those guys.

Sure, I know that all sounds naive by today's standards but as you well remember in the 1980s we were walking around like we had just invented sliced bread. But he didn't say, or even allude to any of those things. He said BASE jumping was a circus and we BASE jumpers were nothing but clowns.

I was crushed. This was Superman shooting himself in the head. This was Moe Howard saying he only acted in the Three Stooges for the money. This was Jimmy Page saying he really hated rock & roll and his heart was in the classics.

Okay, maybe it wasn't that bad, but at the time that's how it sounded to me. He went from hero to zero right before my eyes. And I thought, Jesus, Joe, humble the fuck up! When people are accorded true hero status (and Joe certainly deserved it for what he did) I think it comes with some amount of responsibility to be gracious. Of course, in hindsight I've surely seen BASE looking like a circus and us acting like clowns. But I don't think Mike and Brian were clowns. I don't think Carl Boenish was a clown. I don't think a lot of people on the BASE Fatality List were clowns. And I don't think Felix Bumgartn . . . okay wait a minute, check that one . . .

Anyway, to this day, every time I see another puff piece on Joe Kittinger I get a twinge in my occipital.

NickD
BASE 194

Not a witch, but a Ginger!

I understand and agree with you in most aspects. One must understand that Joe's jump was before we were born. Well ok, before I was born you old fart. Joe maintains the ideology from 50 years ago. 20years ago, I was only allowed to pack for BASE outside of the hangar at Spaceland, DZ in Tx and was told to not to mention BASE to anyone. You shoulda had that beer with me in May, we coulda chewed a lotta fat.
It is better that you crap in my Chili than my Chili makes you crap .
Take care,
space

+1

>>You shoulda had that beer with me in May, we coulda chewed a lotta fat.<<

Yes, I screwed that one up . . . I did want to see you again.

But you are coming "home" someday right? I mean when's this St Paulie Girl experiment going to end?

NickD
BASE 194

 I agree with Rhonda and Tracy in the choosing what threads to read. I automatically understand that some threads will be purely noisy rubbish spewed by trolls or non-jumpers so when I see one of those authors for a thread I don't even open it and if by some accident I do skim it I don't perpetuate it by replying. It's when jumpers get suckered into these pointless threads that they themselves add noise to the forum and then complain that some other user forced them to decrease the signal/noise ratio.

Maybe the St Paulie Girl experiment will bring me home. Haha.
Take care,
space

Speaking as one who is constitutionally incapable of getting along with you...

You are doing a wonderful job in a very harsh environment. I have not seen many moderators who are correctly able to judge the importance of free expression against the need to contain chaos and apply both principles in a balanced way, but you do it 99.9% of the time.

More like you, and I wouldn't find web forums half so oppressive as I do.

rl

P.S. I had another thought that everyone might want to consider: TLN is something of an inspiration. The truth of that statement can be easily proven by having another view of Nick's recent video contribution. I, for one, would not have missed it for the world.

Space, if you're coming anyway, come a month earlier and make Bridge Day. Randy and I will be there. Rick Payne is coming and so is your favorite physicist. You guys can discuss Tesla v Edison again.
Rick

 

SHE'S A WITCH!!!! BURN HER!!!!


I agree with goomanCHEW. If she's a witch we should burn her.

But if she is a ginger as annibal might suspect then we need to treat her different.

Strip her naked, throw her in the trunk of a cadillac with broken beer bottles on the floor and drive her down a washer board road for 2 hours somewhere in the mid-west....Iowa maybe?

Pull her out of the trunk by her hair and soak her in rubbing alcohol and salt, and let her walk back home in 95 deg. weather.

I know this might sound extreme folks.... but if she's a ginger this is the only way.

It would be a lot easier if she was a witch.

No...I'm the ginger.

But...it's good to know you know how to deal with us soulless freaks....?

<sigh>
where were you when all them freaks gathered together in the Netherlands?

but maybe that high of a concentration might just drive normal people mad...

Do you have reservations? I mean for a place to stay, not about me coming over. I may could swing it.
Let me know please.
Edison was a jerk.
Take care,
space

AT LEAST move that garbage to the bonfire so we don't have to waste 0.5 seconds of our day identifying another useless thread on the list.
It all fits into the same category as anything posted by base75.
Censorship isn't needed, but properly categorizing it as junk would help.

>>Do you have reservations? I mean for a place to stay<<

Write to Jason right now! He was saving a slot in one of the cabins for me, but I've got a shot at Paramedic School (just found out) and can't make Bridge Day this year.

NickD
BASE 194

Well that is mighty nice of you to categorize my interview as garbage/junk. No worries, I don't take offense. Just tell me where the "bonfire" is though.
base75 is a BASE memories kickstarter. Kinda like when you smell that paste glue glop with the stick embedded in the cap that you used in the first grade years later and ya go "Oh Yeah! I remember that construction paper thingy we made while sitting next to that girl in the frilly coat that didn't like me because I thought that hamsters were rats with style."
Take care,
space

Randy and I have extra bed in room. I PM'd you.
Rick

How about all of you complaining six year olds start jumping and stop hating on one of the few people who actually thinks what you do is interesting and not insane.... in other words.. GROW UP

You set a very low bar.

Tell me about it, some people have to start with baby steps

Rob,
Why don't you just start with flying your canopy straight... Leave the discussion to these here grownups.
dan

p.s. Still waiting for you to fix a canopy...

I don't fly crooked, that's just a built in hook turn.

But, I guess you're right. They were getting along pretty well so i'll just let them be.

Bullshit Nick, you said you were making Bridge Day,
and as far as accommodations for the weekend
there's room in my cabins so bring it on Tracy

 

>>Bullshit Nick, you said you were making Bridge Day,<<

Sorry Bro, gotta do what I gotta do . . .

Nice to see you back and posting!

NickD

Seriously dude ? So it's ok to belittle RL because you may think she is not a jumper, but TLN is god's gift to this board because she interviews people ?

may I also point out the 980 is as much of limey as you are of a yankee.

let me also point out that I have never called her a cunt, but rather pointed out the obvious lack of logic in the things she had said.

If you were sorry about offending, you wouldn't have written words you think might be offensive, eh? But it's okay--your shot went wide, so no, I'm not offended.

I'm not a jumper at all. I expect I stopped jumping before you ever started. But I have treasured memories from those years of my life--some about jumpers who are still with us and more about jumpers who are not.

Unfortunately, the "non-jumper" argument is one of the same arguments that has been used against TLN, so if you're going to use it in a passive-aggressive attempt to discredit me, then by extension, you have discredited her to a greater degree, because the only stories she has to tell are secondhand---stories she takes from those who were there, and at least in one case, twists to falsity.


Perhaps, then, the problem is not with those who berate her, but with the quality of her interviews.


So this is not about the quality of the interview but about ego?

I see.

 

BASEing. I dont do.

some thoughts...

- until Mike's recent episode, none of the people she has interviewed has complained about the works. having been interviewed, she seemed to try hard be fair.

- how often do jumpers actually like interviews from the media and people from outside the community? heck, NickDG has plenty of stories of quotes being taken out of context, sensationalized, etc. many jumpers have been burned by the media. after all the work she has done, only one major issue? sounds pretty good to me!

- "I would prefer just to talk to the jumper myself." seems like an interesting concept, but who actually tries this? would it not been good to if someone had interviewed Leroy before he left... the articles help build a history sympathetic to jumpers.

- RL was a part of BASE history. Epi did not recognize it. it seems the "just talking to other jumpers" doesn't work well...

- the plagiarism thing makes me laugh. it comes back to the copyright discussion. sure it's wrong. but how many jumpers dub music to their vids? do they seek permission or pay royalties? most crib others work. no one cries foul over that, but TLN gets vilified.

let's all just try to recognize the good. why fixate on the negative?

TLN was indirectly responsible for opening an object in texas - the object was a 300' atrium inside a building, which was freefall'd by a parachuting space monkey. multiple wall strikes, but ultimately a safe landing on the second floor hall balcony. much amusement was had by all.

Was this his 1st jump? Was first aid needed? Will he jump again? Is he up for an interview? and most importantly is their video?

I wish I was there.

 
Has the object been jumped again since the wall strike or is the site burned forever? 300 ft? does it have a good landing area?

Lee

The jumper survived, no major injuries. the site was not burned, jump went off without a hitch. landing area is sketchy, lots of tables, reception desk, and a bar in the middle of the floor - outs are the balconies. I believe the jump is repeatable. for further questions, epibase should be contacted, as he represents the jumper.

space monkey is badass but sometimes he goes apeshit and sometimes he jumps things far beyond and skill level and hits everything known to monkey.

you rock space monkey for jumping inside that building!

Death Defying Stunt Monkey rules!

That's one bad ass building to be jumping inside.

hahahahaha... awesome

I knew I should have sent him to Apex for a First Jump Course, having only a few skydives under his belt. I read him the articles on BASE ethics and contacting the locals.

I only hope Lane can mentor him and set him on a straight path going forward.

Building trust requires consistency. All it takes to lose it is a single lapse of integrity.


But it is a major issue. And now we know that the potential is there.

Interesting the turn things have taken, though. It was not all that long ago that publicity of any kind was frowned on. Now it seems that any publicity is good publicity.





This is not the best example you could have picked, all things considered. And I doubt it would've have done anything to prevent some of us from hoping that it was as fixable a matter as flipping out and trying to steal a car.


That's almost as bad as a 22-year old telling me I probably quit jumping before he was born.

Once and for all, I have five damn jumps off that damn bridge. The first of them was my 36th parachute jump, period. Not only that, I wasn't a very current skydiver at the time, because I'd been spending most of my nights huddled at the base of buildings, antennas and spans hoping for the sweet sound of opening canopies. My training consisted of the old-style BD first jump course, a little extra help with my exit from Trace, a comment from...never mind...that "you know as much as I did when I made my first jump," and a final admonition from Legg to land in the water.

My point is twofold--one, I am not a base jumper. Two, and far more important, is that Brian did not go in at Bridge Day because of his age or his lack of currency and certainly not because of a lack of training. Next time you fumble finger the milk carton and have to clean half gallon off the floor and walls, be sure to tell yourself it's because you were inadequately trained to hold a milk carton. Human error happens, and it isn't predictable. Hysterical statements from the grief-stricken should be taken with a grain of salt, and to fail to do so is the mark of the sensationalist.


He could've read some of my old posts before going with his gut instinct. Lord knows, it's all there.

Speaking of which, there are plenty of jumping stories here and on Blinc, so anyone who wants history could spend an afternoon digging through it all. The other thing to do--which is what I have done over the years (in addition to getting my ass froze off in the middle of the night)--is talk to people.

I'm not going to address the issue of plagiarism, so I snipped that part.


There's a bigger picture, and I predict a bad end. But for some people, any attention is good attention, so continuing to discuss it is just as bad.

It's easy enough to put her on "ignore," particularly since there is no principle under which she can be legitimately banned.

 

 You're talking about Death Defying Stunt Monkey with a Tangle Resistant Harness right?

Did you name it Space Monkey? I want to be sure to call him by the correct name.

would not a stunt monkey, by any other name, be just as death defying?

That's a silly question unless of course the person asking it is not a parachuterist.
Anyway, I was way off. I meant, Cap'n Danger. Stunt Monkey, Death Defying Skydiver.

 

That's the same look he gets in his eyes when he spots a hot space monkey chick.

I googled hot space monkey chick and the first entry was:

YouTube - MONKEY WANKS OFF TO HOT CHICK

i an a gamma cat!