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Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
I've just enjoyed two days of glorious weather in the Valley. Things can get pretty busy there when the weather's as perfect as it's been.

On one jump from the High Nose I saw a canopy that had clearly come from the regular Nose, and another already on the ground. I was going to be flying left into that area, so I checked with Air Glacier how many jumpers had called in from there. They said five, and sure enough a three-way soon launched. I waited a little, then flew my line. Shortly after landing another group jumped from the Nose. They'd seen my flight, so all went well, but I think this does highlight the importance of checking the airspace you're flying into.

Air Glacier will often be thoughtful enough to warn me about jumpers on the other side of the Valley, but the Nose still gets jumped a lot too. I think it's probably a good idea for everyone, whether tracking or wingsuiting, to ask Air Glacier about any recent calls from other jumpers. Hopefully this isn't too much extra effort for Air Glacier, and they'll soon get into the habit of giving you a quick summary of any other calls made in the last 5 or so minutes.

I know the chances of a midair collision are small, but I think you'll agree the consequences don't bear thinking about.
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Re: [goking] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
I don't think they will take on the job of air traffic control,as then they are a party to what may or may not happen on the BASE jumps..
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Re: [awest] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
the Landing card should also finance an Air Traffic Controller/Coordinator Shocked
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Re: [goking] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
maybe when its busy its not the best idea to fly left from the high nose under the other exiits, and better to just fly away.

use some common sense, not every jump has to be proxy.
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Re: [goking] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
We don't get these problems with our 200' midnight 'A' jumps... Maybe you should move back to the land of wind & rain & join us Wink

Glad your keeping active bro!! Hope to visit in the spring...
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Re: [avenfoto] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
With exiting the High Nose, there is also the possibility of colliding with someone from La Mousse if both people are just flying straight out in wingsuits and one or both people cross the river. Both exits are almost directly across from each other.
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Re: [magol] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
this is true, however you would at least have line of sight.

you could also go right.
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Re: [magol] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
i thought that is why we or atleast 1 on the jump had a UHF radio ..

maybe talk or written on board in horner bar the channels we should be on ..the other week there was 6 at high nose 4 at la mousse and 2 at low nose we all contacted on 3 different channels and were able to fly like our own traffic controllers....was fun to watch
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Re: [pjc] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
pjc wrote:
We don't get these problems with our 200' midnight 'A' jumps... Maybe you should move back to the land of wind & rain & join us Wink

Ironically, that's exactly the weather we have here today!

pjc wrote:
Glad your keeping active bro!! Hope to visit in the spring...

Thanks, and I look forward to your visit!
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Re: [bodyguard] Collision avoidance in the Swiss Valley
In reply to:
maybe talk or written on board in horner bar the channels we should be on

That's a good idea! Have a standard communication channel for the jumpers in the valley to be on and make exit point calls like Kjerag (2 jumpers from the high nose in 10 sec. with wingsuits going left)
I wonder how many will actually carry a radio? The differing language thing might be a little challenging but it's better than nothing. I agree with Awest that Air Glacier has better things to do than be air traffic control for us.
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Re: [cloudtramp] Collision avoidance
glacier air has better things to do than be air traffic control

Plus if we want to be treated like big boys and girls,
as in self-regulated, then we should be on the ball
and handle this ourselves for everyone's benefit.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Collision avoidance
How about the swiss guys decide on radio channel for everyone to use then post it at the Horner hotel.
Will
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Re: [willh] Collision avoidance
there would have to be atleast 3 channels or make it a certain channel for that side of the valley or a certain channel for that exit point which is also posted up on the little blue boards where the exit point is..
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Re: [bodyguard] Collision avoidance
easy just have 2 channels, first being the comm channel, second being a distress channel. have it posted down in the valley on a board (i have never been to LB so im unsure of the layout) what channel numbers to tune to. if the language barrier is an issue, have some easy codewords or numbers that designate what your intentions are. IE wingsuit jumpers, number of jumpers. or, the simplest form of communication could quite be colors. designate different colored flags or small pennants in combination with radio comms, for different types of jumps, easily visible from the other side of the valley with a monocular or some binos?
feel free to shoot me down but im just trying to brainstorm a bit.