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does anyone know if there exist a helmet that have the same high security level like a paraglider or motorcycle helmet and a mounting for still & video cam?

i saw a lot of skydiving helmets but they are all worthless if you have a serious impact. some have a good outside shell but no real shockabsorbing padding.

it makes me astonished that there is still no reasonable cam helmet for basejumping or swooping. both sports becoming (are) famous and on both you can have a serious impact where a skydivinghelmet won't help.

well, i can mount a bracket/case to a paraglider or a motocrosshelmet easily but this will destroy the rigidity of the helmet when i screw the holes. (somebody who knows a superstrong and flexible glue that works on a finished helmet?)



i thought the helmet manufacturers want my money?

...that works on a finished helmet?

http://www.gorillaglue.com/

I have not used it on a helmet but it is some amazing stuff.
At the local hardware store saw this glue hold a handle onto
a cement block that weighs about 30 pounds.

thx. thats a good tip.
the problem is to find a helmet with the right attributes and a surface that will not peel of.
maybe it would be possible to work with carbon matting and epoxy resin to attach something like the x-shut or zkulls system to the helmet but i think the surface of the helmet must be untreated carbon.
(even if i find a helmet as per describtion, it's to much unexplored "do it yourself" stuff for me. i don't need carbon gloves with an x-shut on the middle finger)

I've seen paragliding helmets custom converted to super beefy camera helmets capable of carrying up to 35pounds worth of camera gear. Anything can be done if you have the desire and the $$$.

well, i have only some euros. but when i look at the price for a full protective helmet and a non protective camhelmet i'm close to puke.
a good helmet that maybe save you from serious injury is mostly half price than a camhelmet.
thats retarded!
okay we living in a mad world.

it would be nice if you can tell me the name of the paragliderhelmet manufacturer.

adding a chin cup to most any helmet makes it capable of taking some weight, then it is just a matter of creativity and glue.

Do you really think that a few small holes will totally destroy the rigidity of the helmet. I wonder how then do they attach straps and face guards and the such with out destroying it. I could assume only that by drilling a few holes that this wouldnt do much damage to the structure of the bucket.

drilling holes can successfully preserve structural integrity. a small, well placed drilled hole can prevent the growth of a crack.

should it be done to a helmet?
- no recommendation!

drill some holes and you'll become a test jumper, yet again.

i asked someone who works for the german automobile club and is sometimes testing helmets.
he told me that a safety helmet is only working when the schockabsorbing shell is intact. a hole will not cause much but 3 or 4 (how many screws do you need for mounting only one cam?) with screws passing the layers will destroy the rigidity. he explained it is like a building loosing his static.

the holes for chinstraps are made from the manufacturers, they should know where they can drill holes and where not (i hope).

well, thats why i had the carbon matting idea. its not doing any harm at the protective shell, looks not like a messed up mix of tape/glue and will never get loose.

chin cup works, but if we talking about protection its not comparable to the face protection of a paragliding helmet or a motocross helmet.

i jumped a bonehead with do-it-yourself mountings for 6 years (in skydiving and base) now i need a new helmet and i would like to do things not by the halves. (if possible)

hell, what about superglue and backing soda.... i have replaced and fixed propellers with it... i am sure it could hold a simple camera bracket.......

How about motorcross helmets? Some of them are light as fuck and they provide great protection, Maybe its worth looking in to it...
as for drilling holes in a helmet shell, I wouldn't do it, manufactures of motorcycle helmets actually advice you to buy a new helmet even after small accident, sometimes even invisible damage can cause the helmet to crash open next time it hits something (I have seen it happen)....I reckon drilling holes in it is even worse...some super duper glue and fuck load of duck tape would be a better idea

A friend of mine uses a gok helmet, which is pletnty good for protection... he moddified a bracket to use with a bullet cam, but i think ny camera due to weight and size could have been attached to the set up.

My only problem with making camera attachments is how well they'll disintigrate on an impact, bare this in mind, he has used a 2 metal compound type of mix, which is not bendable, he is into crw so no real bother, but consider a cliff strike vs your camera mod, that peice of steel needs to be less durable then the outsdie of your helmet, other wise it will go straight through your skull...

he attached the camera mod using velcro, and sticky pad... we can pick him up, off the ground via his helmet and its solid. I'll get him to send us a picture..

I had the same issues with finding a helmet, and in the end bought, an x large bonehead, and took out there shitty padding, and added some from an old motorccle helmet..

I use a helmet like this for jumps where i think i might need it, i ditch the camera for more protection though, but there should be a way to put a cam on it: http://pro-tec.net/...ets/auger/auger.html
The one i have is an earlier, slightly more compact, model. The sunscreen is removable.
I figure it should be possible to attatch a cameramount on a helmet like this if you combine velcro and/or glue with velcrostraps through the vents?

Not that i would know to much about it, but i dubt one clean drilled hole for a camerascrew in the outher shell would make a critical impact on the safety.
The main reason you should replace a helmet like this after an impact is because the inner shock-protective layer works by giving in if the impact is high enough. Once its given in it wont go back to its original state.
The problem would be to make a hole without breaking the inner layer, but with all the vents, mabye its possible :)
What about trying to put a plate in a venthole between the shell and the inner layer and drill in that?
But like crash said, what happends with the screws and the metal on the inside of your helmet on impact...? Id go for velcro/glue/straps/tape.

Good luck :)

Ductape

Charley Insider
http://www.hanggliding.org/wiki/Charley_Insider
Easy enough to adapt for a camcorder mount (with a bit of DIY to create a horizontal platform on a curved surface )
Even easier to mount a Go Pro or Contour HD...
Best of both worlds....safe helmet & a camera platform.

The Cookie Gas has patented impact protection and can take aliquid flatlock with the proper adapter. You have to search around the site for the proper components. You're looking at about $500 US.

http://www.cookiecomposites.com/...helmets/70/index.htm

well, thanx for some real good proposal.
i think i will buy a xxl camhelmet and add some of this ballistic padding. (damn, shipping costs!)
for the low stuff i will buy a motocross helmet with enough air inlets to use some straps for cam mounting.
i hate this compromise shit but it's not looking like i will find what i desire.

keep posting if you guys find a real good alternative.


play save!

Quick point on the motorcross helmet..

If you get really shitty linetwists it'll mean you can't lift your head up due to the size of the helmets width.

Make sur you have a nice cutaway system...

Loctite customer service says, as far as experience goes are 2K-Epoxy resin adhesives best for the job.
For example Loctite 3450 A&B Hysol : ok for thread cutting for camera mount system
Loctite 3423 A&B Hysol General Purpose Epoxy

HTH