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Mag Bridle Mod
Anybody else using a magnet on their bridle for routing on hand held jumps? I just got mine all set up recently, and while I've only put two jumps on it, I absolutely love it. It takes a lot of the guess work out of things and made routing my bridle on the outside of a cell tower array a piece of cake.

Curious as to whether anybody else has this, or has any opinions (positive or negative) on such a set up.
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Re: [Treejumps] Mag Bridle Mod
Yep.

Exact same concept but there's going to be a slight bit of maintenance involved in the velcro as far as wear and removing the bits of grass/carpet/etc that collect in the hook portion.

Of course, the magnet may have the opportunity to collect stray bits of ferrous metal of course, shavings, car keys, wrenches; but, on the outside of the steel on a tower routing my bridle, it literally "snapped" right into the correct position with barely any effort on my part.

Yea, and I know the velcro version is super easy as well, several people around here utilize that, but you gotta admit that magnets are the new cool thing! Wink
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Re: [SpeedPhreak] Mag Bridle Mod
How bulky/heavy is the magnet on your bridle compared to a strip of velcro?

Personally, I prefer just doing the pins bottom to top for handheld jumps.
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Re: [epibase] Mag Bridle Mod
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what could happen if the magnet stuck to metal on the object before/ as you were exiting?
My concern as well...
Climbing through tight metal work , geared up good to go....and the magnet 'sticks' to a beam or scaffold ..pulling the bridal from your rig and attaching it to the object.....
if you didnt notice it when it happened and its a scary low thing where you are using slippy spectra loops....the next thing you hear is 'plop plop' and your container is open.
Or you didnt notice it...climb out some more and your bridal starts wrapping around the metal work
:(

If something works better or solves a problem that current methods cant deal with....I'm all for it
But
Velcro or a 'flap tuck' works....no need to change it in my opinion
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Re: [epibase] Mag Bridle Mod
Valid points.

My take on them; the magnet adds a bit of heft and bulk to the bridle, probably not enough to make any difference that I can come up with. Rerouting the bridle/pins is a completely valid option though I like the peace of mind of rigging my gear the same each time instead of making it deployment specific. That's personal preference; although I've had multiple times where I planned to go stowed and changed my mind at the top due to a changed exit point or just plain chickenshit.

I don't like the "tuck" method. I feel you can introduce additional variables based on how solid a tuck you have. I also know guys that tuck their bridle between their rig and their shoulder which I feel is bad because you can increase the bite force just by raising your arm up.

There may be the possibility of of sticking the magnet onto the object, but it's a magnet to magnet connection when it's on the rig which is stronger than magnet to steel so I don't think there is much risk in it leaping off my shoulder to the structure. Plus, the magnet is on the rig side of the bridle so there is an extra layer of bridle over the top which would make a weaker force from the top.

Anytime you're climbing through the object to get to the exit point with your pilot chute in your hand you have the risk of snagging bridle on something and popping pins. Whether it's a tuck of bridle, velcro, or magnets, that's not going to change. I can see though, with velcro, where you might get a small "cchhkkk" as a warning when it snags and pulls loose.
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Re: [SpeedPhreak] Mag Bridle Mod
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but it's a magnet to magnet connection
I know...
It doesnt have to mate exactly ,It'll hold when its close...with minimal magnet contact ( its just a bridal)
possibly leaving a section of magnet 'unmated' thats able to attract/mate to nearby metalwork you brsuh up against.

But when you are gearing up in the dark on your own, possibly in cramped quarters,possibly surrounded by metallic structures,possibly with cold fingers and reaching over your shoulder to try and mate the magnets....whats the chances of the above happening and you not getting a perfect magnet/magnet connection....???

hmmm

.or maybe you are smart and decide to mate it before you put your rig on, thinking that's a bigger risk than gearing up with loose bridal around you and possibly routing said bridal through some part of your rig...like your legstraps...??

Magnets work.....velcro works....tucks in flaps work..( and even not 'stowing' the excess bridal works if you are careful)
I guess you just gotta decide which presents the most actual and potential risks to you.

Edit: In summary....I don't think it provides a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
I don't think it adds any value to an existing system ( velcro or tuck) ...and in fact...makes it slightly more dangerous.....
Its plus side is that it eliminates the 'maintenance' of a velcro tab....(that last a long long time already)
Just my opinion...... :)
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Re: [SpeedPhreak] Mag Bridle Mod
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peace of mind of rigging my gear the same each time instead of making it deployment specific.

so you always go slider up then? with the same pc?

thats called skydiving.
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Re: [SpeedPhreak] Mag Bridle Mod
Why is this needed? Why is Velcro needed in this venue? Am I so old school that I cannot understand the viability of these systems? What guesswork? Jeez! not getting down on you but I do not understand. I have 119 handheld jumps without any of this stuff. what up?
I never did a jump in the last 20yrs where I thought "Dang! I sure wish I'd had had one of them thingies.".

I think one jumper died on a basement rig where the bridle got caught under the bottom corner of the container 25 yrs ago on a HH. I hope if you use this system that it works for both Left and Right handed throws. Just put the bridle over your shoulder.

Please explain. Is it only psychological? I can understand this one.
Take care,
space

Edit: Ahhh! you pin rig Handholders. Got it now on me own.
Take care,
space
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Re: [base283] Mag Bridle Mod
I worked a lot with magnets recently. I have a very strong coated neodymium one and it is quite strong 3 kG (kilo Gauss) . 11 grams for a 5x10x20mm,
take care,
space
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Re: [Zoter] Mag Bridle Mod
Zoter wrote:
But when you are gearing up in the dark on your own, possibly in cramped quarters,possibly surrounded by metallic structures,possibly with cold fingers and reaching over your shoulder to try and mate the magnets....whats the chances of the above happening and you not getting a perfect magnet/magnet connection....???

Pretty much absolutely zero.

It's got a pretty good "snap" to it when the magnets get close, and it's much easier that tucking the bridle or even sticking velcro.
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Re: [avenfoto] Mag Bridle Mod
avenfoto wrote:
so you always go slider up then? with the same pc?

thats called skydiving.

Nah, all slider off; mostly with a 42".
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Re: [SpeedPhreak] Mag Bridle Mod
I cant use magnets, it messes with my pace maker.
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Re: [gauleyguide] Mag Bridle Mod
Magnets attract me, I must be bipolar. Or maybe not. Because they would not attract me then would they?
Take care,
space
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Re: [base283] Mag Bridle Mod
base283 wrote:
Magnets attract me, I must be bipolar. Or maybe not. Because they would not attract me then would they?
Take care,
space

depends on which "pole" is facing you Wink
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Re: [gauleyguide] Mag Bridle Mod
gauleyguide wrote:
I cant use magnets, it messes with my pace maker.

I thought only microwave ovens and garage door openers did that?? Tongue