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Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
Just sharing this as a small insight into what
it is like to work as a teacher these days...

Edited: deleted text, just in case.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
I may cut and paste that in to an email to my boss next time i call in sick because I was up all night climbing a tower
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
WOW! What the hell kind of bonus question did you ask for him to be able to get his grade from an F to an A?

Edit: Ah, nevermind. I thought you meant 28 bonus points for the test, not the term. Bonus points are for sissy's anyway Wink
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Re: [FreeFallFiend] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
Bonus points are for sissy's anyway Wink

I agree, but since I am unable to hit them (stick)
then I have to resort to bribes (carrots)... which
they earn for a variety of reasons such as:
-completing assignments
-doing well on pop quizzes
since assignments and attendance are both
optional in my class.

Edited for grammar.

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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
you sure this particular student isn't earning "bonus points" any other way?
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
GreenMachine wrote:
Bonus points are for sissy's anyway Wink

I agree, but since I am unable to hit them (stick)
then I have to resort to bribes (carrots)... which
they earn for a variety of reasons such as:
-completing assignments
-doing well on pop quizzes
since assignments and attendance are both
optional in my class.

Edited for grammar.

Interesting.. In my job I can't hit my employees either. We used to, and there were times that it worked well.. but not as effective as the 21st century and remembering that there is no box (think outside of the box)
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
you wanna go camping?
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
Someone needs to explain to him that a doctors note will suffice. Far too much personal information, although this line intrigues me: "As I am sure you can guess I am of the homosexual nature and I take part in all that goes with the title."

Any chance you can get him to expand on it?
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Re: [TizzyLishNinja] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
That part stuck out to me as well. I am impressed by your response, GreenMachine, because I have no idea how i would have. Probably with less...finesse. You are very ept.

Crazy
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAACZJqRc78
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
In reply to:
My ex was not a very nice or gentle person and so I have suffered many internal injuries that I am currently being treated.

He was probably dating Abbie.........
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Re: [SabreDave] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
anal fissure....huh huhhuhhuh
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
GreenMachine wrote:
Bonus points are for sissy's anyway Wink
I agree, but since I am unable to hit them (stick)

Sure you can. Any one who doesn't do acceptable work deserves to fail unless they have mitigating circumstances that justify a withdrawal or incomplete.

People who lack work ethic, training, or intelligence are going to fail. It's better for their future co-workers if they don't get to the point where they perform negative work (it takes more effort to manage them or undo their damage than doing their work for them, at which point you sigh about the increased workload and begin documenting their failures so they can be fired for the corporate good). It's better for them that fixable problems (work ethic, remedial classes) can be rectified before they have black marks on their record, and unfixable ones (they're in over their head) are addressed early enough that they can graduate with degrees that get them into less rigorous professions.

With a pre-med student, it's better for his potential future patients if he fails before performing that complex surgery. It's better for him to change directions before running up big student loans for med-school.

In my school we had CSCI 2700 Data Structures.

People wrote software that conformed to specifications, was well tested, and passed automatic regression tests.

Or they failed. In large numbers. After which they tried harder or didn't satisfy the degree requirements, changed majors, and didn't work as software engineers.

I don't remember interviewing any one incompetant who made it through that class.

The parents didn't like their children failing, the instructor was no longer allowed to teach data structures, and a replacement was chosen with less rigorous standards.

Graduate quality went down and we interviewed tens of people at > $500 a pop in wasted time. I've consulted for organizations that actually hired such people where productivity was 1/10th what it could have been (could be $100K/year in fully burdened costs per defective engineer) or projects didn't finish (millions if the company survives).
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
This guy shows no respect and distance for you. Crazy
Bravo for staying so calm.
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Re: [Waldschrat] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
How creepy.
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Re: [DrewEckhardt] Good Education
People who lack work ethic, training, or intelligence are going to fail

I completely agree and have seen this both
in the public and private sector, unfortunately
between helicopter parents, dim or lazy pupils,
and some colleges now thinking of students
as 'customers' quality has gone way down!!!
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Re: [TizzyLishNinja] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
Attendance is NOT mandatory.

A doctor's note is NOT needed.

I do NOT want him to expand.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Odd/Interesting Email Exchange with Student
Then his email was unnecessary making it even more creepy as he reached out to you.

As he responded to your email, he seems to want to share with you. He may expand on his issues yet.

Lucky you.
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As for all the other responses:

Thank you guys & gals for the props!

Yeah, it was kind of weird and took
me several minutes to craft my reply.

No, I don't want to go camping, ha ha.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Catch All
Did the thought cross your mind that by posting this private email in public forum that you might be sans ethics?

How about that if someone in your class Googles your name and finds this post? Do you think it would be easy to surmise who wrote the email? Do you think he wanted this email to be reproduced in a public forum?

Not everyone wants to be on playboy.com. Fuck social media.
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Re: [Ten48] Catch All
One possibility: Deleting the thread, after the theme is discussed.
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Re: [Ten48] Catch All
In my original post I deleted the
student's name & email address.
Now I have deleted the content.

I have taught over 500 economic
students in the past 3 years and
I'm sure more than one was gay.

Google would not lead someone
to this particular thread since as
you and others who loathe me
know I have many posts.
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Re: [Ten48] Catch All
Ten48 wrote:
Did the thought cross your mind that by posting this private email in public forum that you might be sans ethics?

How about that if someone in your class Googles your name and finds this post? Do you think it would be easy to surmise who wrote the email? Do you think he wanted this email to be reproduced in a public forum?

in general, I agree that not all information needs to be put on the internet. (many do not share my views of appropriateness.)

however, this particular forum isn't really public. (I can't read it unless I'm signed in.) it should keep things quasi private.

now, if the student had an unbridled fascination with his professor...
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Re: [wwarped] Catch All
I don't think I've ever written a letter to anyone with something like: "I am of the heterosexual persuasion..."
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Re: [460] Catch All
you make me laugh.
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460 wrote:
I don't think I've ever written a letter to anyone with something like: "I am of the heterosexual persuasion..."

have you participated in all that entails?
Tongue
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Re: [GreenMachine]
i think hes playing you.

exam day was canceld becaus one guy called in about a bomb... cops and everyting arond