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What time of day did it happen, what had you eaten on the day that that happened, have you or anyone in your family ever had issues with low or high blood sugar? Have you ever gone unconscious before, if so, approximately how many times (often, moderately often, very few), if so you'll know the feeling of coming back to consciousness and you have something to compare too, if so, was the feeling of coming back to consciousness similar to previous times, or was there any other feelings that were different? What there any more than normal numbness and tingling, or any numbness or tingling in a certain area?
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On the day of the incident, did you eat breakfast, or was the gyro the only thing you had eaten all day.

On the next day when you felt it again, had you eaten much throughout the day?
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did the hospital do a blood workup on you? sounds like low blood sugar to me. Gyro's don't have a lot of fast acting sugars in them unless the gyro sauce had sugar in it.

You may be developing hypoglycemia due to diet and or activity level. If your pancreas starts producing to much insulin it will pull necessary sugars out of your blood for storage and cause hypoglycemia. A blood work up would have shown your blood sugar levels and your insulin levels and you could confirm or rule out hypo/hyper glycemia.

You described shock, it could have been due to low blood sugar or possibly psychogenic. Do you have a lot of stress right now? Were you really anxious about anything when it happened?
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with my limited medical knowledge I agree, it might low blood sugar to me. How much water do you drink? How much exercise do you get? General health?
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Have your doctors check you for: Neurocardiogenic Syncope

My sister was diagnosed in her late 20's. The doctors thought she had developed Epilepsy at first due to the seizures. Ask them to do a a tilt-table test on you.


What are the symptoms of NCS?

Neurocardiogenic fainting usually occurs while standing. Emotional stress, stressful condition and pain may trigger an episode, especially among the young. The onset may be abrupt or associated with warning symptoms such as fatigue, weakness, nausea, sweating, pallor, visual disturbances, abdominal discomfort, headache, pins-and-needles, lightheadedness or vertigo. Presyncopal patients may also complain of palpitations, vomiting, disorientation, and difficulty speaking clearly or coherently
Other symptoms that may present before a faint include feeling either warm or cold, tremors, yawning and having a bluish/purple or red coloring to the skin.

During the faint "seizure-like" activity may occur. This convulsive activity is thought to be distinct from a seizure disorder.

Patients are sometimes symptomatic after a faint as well. Patients may complain of symptoms including nausea, clamminess, lightheadedness, headache and malaise. Patients may also experience vomiting, abdominal discomfort, weakness, tremors, cold or warm feelings and confusion. Patients who experience frequent neurocardiogenic syncope may report symptoms between faints as well, such as chronic fatigue, headache, chest pain, exercise intolerance, heart "flip flops" and an inability to tolerate prolonged standing.
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 sounds like "whip its" syndrome.
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The took the vials of blood for lab work. You'll probably get the results in a week or so along with a nice bill.


If you were still hanging around 460, that would explain alot. LaughTongue
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Funny enough this sounds EXACTLY like my last shroom trip. Unimpressed
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First of all gotta throw out the disclaimer, not an RN, PA or Doc. So here goes...

Seizures have many causes ranging from actual neurological abnormalities to severe electrolyte imbalances to cardiac causes so it's not an easy diagnosis and the cause may never be discovered.

In your ED visit the blood they drew was probably sent for an CBC, BMP (or CMP) maybe cardiac markers and maybe TSH. Basically they looked at your electrolytes, infection and evidence of any organ dysfunction. In addition to the blood they probably got some urine as well and checked for a urine tox. They probably did ECG to check out your heart and a head CT as well to check out for a massive tumor or head bleed. Since you didn't mention any of these being out of whack and not being brought to your attention they were all probably normal.
I'm sure that they also asked you about not only about your med history, family history, you social habit as well as recent events or lifestyle changes.

I doubt it was hypoglycemia as it sounds like you were fairly with it shortly after the event. Typically a hypoglycemic Sz means your BGL is less than 30 which means you will not come out of it without an intervention ie someone injecting D50 into you. You made no mention of feeling loopy or acting drunk prior to this which is how someone who is hypoglycemic will act prior to seizing. Also new onset Diabetics usually present with Hyperglycemia, high sugar.

There are various other electrolytes being high or low that can cause Sz's Na, Ca, Mg but probably not the case.

You didn't mention any recent head trauma so a head injury probably isn't the culprit. But we all know that jumping is hard on the body and every jump probably produces some small about of trauma somewhere. I know some people that have had tingling in their hands for week due to hard openings, pinched nerve probably.


Cardiac wise it could be as simple as that you were dehydrated and stood up and your got dizzy passed out brain didn't get enough O2 and you had a seizure or it could be that you had a little space of time that your heart basically decided to slow down or take break and once again low O2 to the brain and hence seizure, I won't get into the various physiological mechanisms that could cause that.

An actual epileptic Sz has many causes and I believe aprrox. 25% are idiopathic, meaning the cause is never known.

You didn't mention coming off a 3 month drinking binge so I going to rule out alcohol withdrawals : )

So they should have given you a follow up appt with a Neurologist which you should keep, Insurance or not, there should be some kind of charity care type program where you live. It could happen again or you may never have something like this again.

Just my .02

Take care,

Gabe
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Geronimo 509 spot on! Toss the sugar theory in the rubbish. too sudden onset, too fast of recovery. I'm a dumbass with poor judgement and lack of social skills, but m.d. 18 years. Tizzy gets high marks as well. If paper or shrooms did that, send me some and I'll test em for ya! In my lab..er..humm..cough cough
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base386 wrote:
m.d. 18 years.

Here I thought you only played at being a doctor. Tongue
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Re: [TizzyLishNinja] question
they wouldn't let me be a snatch doctor. couldn't keep my finger from under my nose...lack of self control.Unsure
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You are twisted. Smile
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I guess the lack of control kept you from anesthesia too Smile
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Nope. Still get that everyday, some form or fashion.
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You are also incorrigible.Smile
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epibase wrote:
you pissed yourself on shrooms??
must be the wrong kind.. Unsure

UnsureFrown