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Hey There

Believe that the "DIRECT BAG" is the "BETTER" Option.

Thank You !
Gerald


magot

Nope, you fail..............

You've got to have a sack to direct bag.

Not everybody's got one of those.

a direct bag adds complexity and multiple human factors that are easily avoidable in static lines.

direct bags have their place.

Hey Matt


How You Ben ?

Just asking a Question Here

Member you had "US" help You ?

Gerad





tanseven2

Agree 100%! Win..........

Which is better: PCA or Static Line?

I have done both and obviously
the latter can be done solo but
just curious, thanks in advance.

"Better" by what measure?

Michael

Meters.

at perrine with the glider? wait... that was you?

That would be "metres"......

Funny thing is I wrote it the US english way so my homies wouldn't correct me They don't get it when I say what my favourite colour is either.

I got a PM from GreenMachine, so thought I'd clarify my comment a little.

Static line and PCA each have their place, really. Neither one is really "better". In my opinion, strong points of a PCA include:

- A PCA does not require extra gear. If you get to the top of the object, and change your mind about freefalling it, you can always get a PCA.

- If done properly, a PCA does not shock the top of the canopy, so you can get marginally faster inflation.

Strong points of static line:

- Does not require a second jumper. This means you can do it if you're jumping solo, but it also means you can do it without putting any responsibility at all on someone else.

- Extremely repeatable. All other conditions being the same, you should get very similar results from two static line deployments.

With proper technique (vertical drop on exit, unstowing brakes with no canopy surge), it has been my experience that the static line technique can repeatably be used as low as about 130 feet, and can be used with great caution even lower than that. Although a PCA could potentially buy you a few extra feet, I tend to become concerned about repeatability well before altitude, and I lean toward static line.

I will use PCA, for convenience, on objects where I have enough altitude to deal with variability. I would also consider a PCA from a very experienced jumper on extraordinarily low objects, but it would have to be someone who I knew and trusted deeply.

Michael

Hey There Michel

Maybe were falling OFF the MAIN Subject !
Very Impressed by Your well thought out POST !

Gerald

























































mAGOT

o.k.
if you want to get the thread back on track, how 'bout you create a "well thought out POST" explaining why you prefer birect bagging?

Classic! I had to keep myself from laughing my room mates awake after reading that.

My experience with direct bagging is entirely second-hand. However, I believe it shares one advantage with a skillful PCA, namely, it does not shock the top of the canopy. In addition, it will buy you another 10 feet or so because of the missing bridle. Both methods suffer the problem that the deployment device can be dropped by your assistant. A direct bag should be attached to the object you're jumping from, in addition to being held by the assistant, but a dropped bag nevertheless introduces the possibility of serious heading issues.

I suppose the bottom line, for me, is this: You can repeatably static line down to almost 100' with practice. I cannot emphasize enough that this doesn't mean just a few jumps working your way down, but perhaps 50-100 jumps with attention to dropping straight down from the object and minimizing the canopy surge that results from unstowing your brakes.

Above 100', static line is my method of choice. The only time I have considered the altitude advantage of PCA and direct bagging is when eyeballing jumps under 100', but I have never actually felt current enough to jump that altitude range. In most other situations, I would consider any altitude difference between static line and PCA/direct bag to be irrelevant. A far more important consideration, in my mind, is convenience. Because of that, PCA can sometimes be useful.

However, I can't really imagine a situation in which a direct bag is more convenient than a PCA, so direct bagging is more or less relegated to the "specialty" category for me. If I ever get the nerve to jump my favourite 80-foot wet dream, it'll be a consideration.

Michael

Hey There,

Sew TWO Thick "Handles" on , A ...

skydiving BAG

.............btw ......

Favoiite " Uncle Frank " passed away Earlier this Month. Late 1960 Skydiver,
Guessing that Uncle Frank had 50 "Skydives

So Hurt ! gETTIN Over ?

Then Cousin "Steve" went in Longmont, CO. 1976

A Very LOW Puller , a Mark 1 Para Comander.

Cousin Steve,

Would of Been a BASE Jumper !







mAGOT


Gerald

Greene Sport Parachute Center
Greene, N.Y.

How aBout a Direct TeAbag? HoW'z thaT WorKin Four u?

300' ZeBra & LioNzzz'n sHit

WooRd

My information on direct teabags is entirely second hand, however, they, too, have the benefit that they require no extra equipment. If I got to the top of an object, rigged for freefall, but decided it was too low, and if PCA was not an option, I would consider a direct teabag from a skilled assistant.

Michael

I knew there was a reason I like jumping with you....

Hey There,

Yup. Direct Bagging is the better Option.

On a NO Hurry Object.

Your Bag Holder, Holds Your Bag. Two Handles

Let's say You exit left with a slight shoulder down, Your Bag Holder may be able to slightly to position/angle the Parachute that WAY.



cURLEY Asked ?


Gerald



mAGOT






MAGOT