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vid666 Oct 20, 2008, 4:42 PM

WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

hey, those of you lucky enough to interact with the cops on Thursday - can you post the exact charge w/ the numbers that are written after it ? I remember looking at one persons ticket and it said trespassing and gave a penal section 60 something or other

tnx !

mynamebedan Oct 20, 2008, 5:26 PM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

i believe it said "Trespassing on State Property" as the charge

vid666 Oct 20, 2008, 5:28 PM

Re: [mynamebedan] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

mynamebedan wrote:

i believe it said "Trespassing on State Property" as the charge

I am more interested in the section of the WV Penal code that was referenced.

thanks

gauleyguide Oct 20, 2008, 8:16 PM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

I believe it was breaking and entering.

vid666 Oct 20, 2008, 8:20 PM

Re: [gauleyguide] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

gauleyguide wrote:

I believe it was breaking and entering.

no, it was Trespassing, at least on the 3 citations that I saw.

but like i said above - SECTION # please !

blitzkrieg Oct 21, 2008, 4:39 AM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

sorry, it took so long... couldn't find the crumpled up ticket that was mixed in with the other trash on the floor of my truck.

In reply to:

61-3B-3. Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.
(a) Any person who knowingly and without being authorized, licensed or invited, enters or remains on any property, other than a structure or conveyance, as to which notice against entering or remaining is either given by actual communication to such person or by posting, fencing or cultivation, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars.

(b) If the offender defies an order to leave, personally communicated to him by the owner, tenant or agent of such owner or tenant, or if the offender opens any door, fence or gate, and thereby exposes animals, crops or other property to waste, destruction or freedom, or causes any damage to property by such trespassing on property other than a structure or conveyance, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned in the county jail for a period not to exceed six months, or both such fine and imprisonment.

(c) If the offender is armed with a firearm or other dangerous weapon with the unlawful and felonious intent to do bodily injury to a human being during his commission of the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance, such offender shall, notwithstanding the provisions of section one, article seven, chapter sixty-one of this code, be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be confined in the county jail for a term not to exceed six months, or fined not more than one hundred dollars, or both such fine and imprisonment.

(d) Notwithstanding and in addition to any other penalties provided by law, any person who performs or causes damage to property in the course of a willful trespass shall be liable to the property owner in the amount of twice the amount of such damage: Provided, That the provisions of this article shall not apply in a labor dispute.

Scubadivemaster Oct 21, 2008, 5:37 AM

Re: [blitzkrieg] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

Of course they took my wife's ticket when she paid it, but I believe this was the same code, though the written charge was "Trespassing on State Property" which is a different violation code.

I would also point out that I asked the magistrate if this was a crime or a violation, and was told it was a violation. This clearly shows it as a misdemeanor crime. Mad

Mad

blitzkrieg Oct 21, 2008, 5:41 AM

Re: [Scubadivemaster] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

while it is apparent that WV is full of breathtaking views and landscapes and maintains some quality upstanding citizens... it is also evident that it holds more than it's fair share of complete idiots and creepy inbreds.

watch out for the sound of banjos!!! Unimpressed

Unimpressed

vid666 Oct 21, 2008, 7:37 AM

Re: [blitzkrieg] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

thanks E, but brokeass Tony beat you to it :)

the way I read it, the jumpers exposed the animals on the property to harm by opening their gate, hopped fences and went past the clearly posted no trespassing signs or came there with weapons intending to cause harm to another human (pick one)

GreenMachine Oct 21, 2008, 8:05 AM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders

Someone brought a weapon
to huck a freestander?!? Crazy

Crazy

blitzkrieg Oct 21, 2008, 8:07 AM

Re: [GreenMachine] WV ticket holders

of course not. he was just stating how the ticket was complete bullshit, as we were not trespassing. Smile

Smile

GreenMachine Oct 21, 2008, 8:12 AM

Re: [blitzkrieg] WV ticket holders

Oh, Okay.

Scubadivemaster Oct 21, 2008, 8:14 AM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

I'll quit ranting after this, I promise.

The yellow gate at the top was open and the sign reads "Gate closes at 3:00 PM". (it was about 11am)

The other short gate at the bottom that is always locked was open.

There are no signs.

Many of those cited were NOT jumpers.

This would be worth raising holy hell about except that the local law enforcement would get seriously pissed once they got their hands slapped for writing citations that clearly don't meet the elements. (And they would get their hands slapped if this were pushed). Having pissed and vindictive law enforcement does not serve our purpose and would further compromise a nice object.

So, I'll shut up and let their shitty Karma catch up to them.

base428 Bridge Day Organizer Oct 21, 2008, 8:17 AM

Re: [Scubadivemaster] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

What time of day did you guys get ticketed?

blitzkrieg Oct 21, 2008, 8:19 AM

Re: [base428] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

base428 wrote:

What time of day did you guys get ticketed?

it says 12:00pm on the ticket.

Scubadivemaster Oct 21, 2008, 8:27 AM

Re: [base428] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

11:54 AM is when they showed up.

SpeedPhreak Oct 21, 2008, 8:31 AM

Re: [Scubadivemaster] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

They never walked back into the bridge area, they just got on the bullhorn and announced for everyone to come out because we were trespassing and "base-jumping is illegal".

Never once did they actually see anyone on the bridge.

blitzkrieg Oct 21, 2008, 8:36 AM

Re: [SpeedPhreak] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

SpeedPhreak wrote:

Never once did they actually see anyone on the bridge.

that's because no one WAS on or under the bridge. ass-hats!

mynamebedan Oct 21, 2008, 9:16 AM

Post deleted by mynamebedan

SK621 Oct 22, 2008, 10:51 AM

Re: [blitzkrieg] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

They kept my ticket as well after I paid it - attached is a copy of the receipt though which is just hideous....

Andy_Copland Oct 22, 2008, 11:16 AM

Re: [SK621] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

Crime Victim???

base428 Bridge Day Organizer Oct 22, 2008, 11:20 AM

Re: WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

To all you ticket holders:

I feel for you and will gladly go to bat for you if you feel you didn't break any laws. Please email me and provide more details on your arrest so that I can see what can be done.

However, you guys did get busted at NOON. Whatever happened to getting up early and jumping before the sun rises or at night? I warned everyone about this in the final email sent to all jumpers on October 12th.

And if it makes you feel better, I heard that "Kestius", the Lithuanian jumper who looks like Arnold Swartzenegger, smacked a female cop on the butt at the Holiday Inn Saturday night and he wasn't arrested. Wink

Wink

AdamLanes Oct 22, 2008, 1:21 PM

Re: [SK621] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

Were you taken to jail? I'm wondering since you were charged nearly $120 in jail per diem fees, and other jail fees.

AndrewKarnowski Oct 22, 2008, 5:31 PM

Re: [base428] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

base428 wrote:

And if it makes you feel better, I heard that "Kestius", the Lithuanian jumper who looks like Arnold Swartzenegger, smacked a female cop on the butt at the Holiday Inn Saturday night and he wasn't arrested. Wink

Wink

I know a couple people that did that... my thoughts: she liked it!

sky4meplease Oct 23, 2008, 8:47 AM

Re: [AndrewKarnowski] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

The one female cop at the hotel was hot! But that was after 30 Jager shots. Was she hot?

GreenMachine Oct 23, 2008, 10:48 AM

female cop at the hotel

YES, she was hot!! ...and I am still waiting

for HUSHPUPPY to email me the photo he

took of me and her together Cool

Cool

SPAWNmaster Oct 23, 2008, 12:03 PM

Re: [GreenMachine] female cop at the hotel

actually, she was pretty busted...

but what do I know, I was relatively sober.

GreenMachine Oct 23, 2008, 1:18 PM

Re: [SPAWNmaster] female cop at the hotel

We must be talking about different
chicks cause I saw this one on Friday
before partying and she was cute.

Maybe 5' 6", 120 pounds, dirty blonde

base428 Bridge Day Organizer Oct 23, 2008, 1:50 PM

Re: [GreenMachine] female cop at the hotel

I hate to change the subject too much, but the following does deal with COPS:

Did the police presence at the Holiday Inn Oak Hill bother you?

I'm already working on a new hotel for next year and things are looking REALLY great so far. Lots more space, plenty of rooms, no cops roaming the hallways sniffing doors.

Here's my list of complaints:
-Cops were going door to door sniffing for drugs.
-Unauthorized vendors (local bums) selling T's in hallways.
-Cops hanging out in front of hotel issuing tickets to jumpers when they walked 5 feet out the door w/ an open container.
-Cops in my rented ballroom on Saturday night.
-Bubba the security guard (off duty cop) getting in my face Friday night
-Bubba getting the cops to chase Flummi and Aiello out of lower hallway (supposedly blocking exit doors?).
-Cops hanging out waiting for drunk drivers.
-5 dogs max was not in my contract, causing stress for jumpers who brought dogs. Some jumpers were in tears.

Thoughts? Beckley is only 13 miles further from the bridge and a lot closer to the Charleston airport. There's a lot more to do in Beckley and you'll be really close to those OTHER bridges, so getting busted there will be more convenient Wink

Wink

GooManChew Oct 23, 2008, 2:34 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

base428 wrote:

Did the police presence at the Holiday Inn Oak Hill bother you?

i did wonders for the WFFC . . .

gweeks Oct 23, 2008, 2:36 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

I'd be willing to stay in Outer Mongolia if it meant we could have the party somewhere other than Holiday Inn. Beckley would be fine with me.

blitzkrieg Oct 23, 2008, 3:17 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

hell yes. you know many of us are in total agreement with you Jason.

definitely a lot more to do in Beckley and it makes little difference to be further away from the bridge.

my only problem is, i think i'm now a wanted man in Beckley. Crazy

Crazy

Thank you (and your wife) for your hard work and dedication to Bridge Day!!!

pauly632 Oct 23, 2008, 3:57 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

Jason thanks so much for the all the hard work you put in for us. Would love a different hotel. The cops were thicker at the hotel than the Homeland Security at the bridge.

Foever forward

Peace,
Pauly

jawbreaker Oct 23, 2008, 3:58 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

Beckley sounds great...only drawback is the boom truck ride will be really cold!!

sky4meplease Oct 23, 2008, 4:03 PM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

Yeah but, she was pretty hot!

BASE864 Oct 23, 2008, 6:56 PM

Re: [base428] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

base428 wrote:

And if it makes you feel better, I heard that "Kestius", the Lithuanian jumper who looks like Arnold Swartzenegger, smacked a female cop on the butt at the Holiday Inn Saturday night and he wasn't arrested. Wink

Wink

I heard he was just giving her a 'good game' swat. But the male officer with her didn't care much for it. Was it just me or did she look like an older Shawn Johnson?

As for the unifomed officers - that was a surprise to me. Not necessary at all. Isn't the hotel private property anyway?

leroydb Oct 24, 2008, 5:26 AM

Re: [BASE864] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

In reply to:

As for the unifomed officers - that was a surprise to me. Not necessary at all. Isn't the hotel private property anyway?

[insert left wing]
sure they weren't part of some super secret army, [ Tongue

Tongue

shocked[/:P]] lol Watch out... they stole the jumper list and are going to spread it to the rest of the USA and do a nationwide sting on those nasty base jumpers.... (might not be far from the truth) (I await the FBI and other units to interccept this message... so predictable
(exit left wing]

On a real note Shocked

Shocked

, Beckly sounds like a good place to get a hotel.... I bet the locals might change their tune slightly if they found we were looking at staying in Beck..... ?

wwarped Oct 24, 2008, 6:48 AM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

I stayed in Beckley on my first BD.

the main problem will be transport.
- staff leaving even earlier/returning later
- a loooong ride on the boom truck
- adrenalized jumpers impatient to get there
- harder to hitch a ride back (wet, separated from ride there, etc.)

but honestly, I do not care. I'll follow your lead. whatever you believe is best, I'm good. you've made good calls to date and deserve our trust.

Para_Frog Oct 24, 2008, 7:05 AM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

I say you pack the whole thing up and move to a new bridge Jason.

Let WV see what it's like without BD for a year. Cha-ching. $peak in a language they under$tand.

Move that fucker to Auburn!

base428 Bridge Day Organizer Oct 24, 2008, 7:37 AM

Re: [Para_Frog] female cop at the hotel

Well, don't think we haven't analyzed that concept in the (recent) past, as have other jumpers. If you've ever seen the movie "A Bug's Life", BASE jumpers are the ants. If we get bullied too much, I'll dig deep into my playbook and things will get very, very intere$ting.

As for Auburn, they are in fact trying to have their own little BD in the near future. It appears there is some resistance from local communities that utilize the bridge and everyone wants their "cut" of the profits. Californians!

sky4meplease Oct 24, 2008, 7:53 AM

Re: [vid666] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

Has anyone said they are going to fight this ticket?

vid666 Oct 24, 2008, 9:07 AM

Re: [sky4meplease] WV ticket holders - question for all you lucky ones

sky4meplease wrote:

Has anyone said they are going to fight this ticket?

It's hard to say if it's best to fight nor not to fight the tickets. On one side we have the local law who will be pretty pissed off if we stick it to them for blatantly taking advantage of out-of-towners. On the other side we still have the local law, who will probably get even more out of hand if we let them keep doing this to us. This year I felt like I was being herded - the cops were out in full swing, and kept chasing us from objects and herding us back INSIDE Holiday Inn.

2 years ago we had a few cops show up towards the end of the party, sniff some MJ and go hunting. Last year I believe we had them sporadically show up. This year they were at the Holiday Inn full time, pretty much patrolling the hallways and were harassing people outside. This was my 6th BD, and the first 3 years I don't remember seeing them at all.

If we do leave Holiday Inn/Fayettville - how would that affect the locals who are currently supportive of BASE ?

SpeedPhreak Oct 24, 2008, 9:49 AM

Re: [base428] female cop at the hotel

base428 wrote:

Did the police presence at the Holiday Inn Oak Hill bother you?

Yes.

If there are legal/safety issues, by all means call them in, but there was absolutely no need to have them patrolling the hallways "protecting" us.

hookitt Oct 24, 2008, 10:17 AM

Re: [Para_Frog] female cop at the hotel

Para_Frog wrote:

I say you pack the whole thing up and move to a new bridge Jason.

Let WV see what it's like without BD for a year. Cha-ching. $peak in a language they under$tand.

Move that fucker to Auburn!

Not a chance... that bridge is not suitable for a mob of low time skydivers doing a BASE jump for the first time.

base698 Oct 26, 2008, 9:29 AM

Re: [hookitt] female cop at the hotel

New River isn't either Smile

Smile

Ghetto Oct 26, 2008, 1:08 PM

Re: [base698] female cop at the hotel

But the water is soft.... for those who choose to land on it Smile

Smile