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I'm new to the slider up game. Reading posts lately it seems popular to employ a tailgate mod on slider up jumps. With the slider controlling the lines initially, what is the risk of lineover?

Flame away. haha. Serious question though.

slider up is black death dude.

but seriously, I don't know. It seems that everyone does it different. personally, I use a few wraps of BLUE masking tape on only the brake lines. I have never had or seen anyone have a 'gross tailgate hesitation/hangup' with this 'tapegate'

people get lineovers skydiving, and they have sliders. so it seems a good thing.

in my opinion, it provides zero extra risk, with a high probability of reducing the risk of a lineover. I have many jumper friends that use this exact setup and we have used it for years.

ask this guy. the possibility is there, i use two raps of masking tape. it's easy and one more tool in bag. why not use it?

http://www.basejumper.com/...g_line_over_228.html

Sold. Thank you very much.

And maybe if you ask this guy http://www.basejumper.com/...o=ASC;mh=25;#2893155 you might want to reconsider that taping thing... :) But overall on this topic I'd say that mostly the taping seems to be an American thing whereas us Europeans seem to rely just on slider to do the job. Bottom line is that regardless of taping / tg:ing or not slider up there haven't been any fatal injuries sustained due to slider up line overs in BASE and overall reports of slider up lineovers in BASE seem pretty rare. So both seem to do the job, you choose with which one you like to go. :)

It's not really just an american thing. I've seen people from all over the world use either tape, or a tailgate, or nothing. Some people use 1 thin strip of gaffers tape pinched together. (Yes, include the inner C and D lines)

One note after watching the lineover video... If you have to ditch a toggle, keep the other one and flare with a toggle and a riser. If you haven't practiced it, you may want to. It' far easier to fly and land with one toggle and one riser than with just risers alone.

Yeah I think it is....
Its reasonably rare over here to meet someone jumping slider up using tape/ tailgates slider up.
I agree with Markus...
are BASE SU line overs such a frequent problem , that we need to be so concerned as to add another device to our gear to 'possibly' prevent them ?

I dont think there is a valid argument for not using a tailgate jumping slider down ( other than perhaps the packing method where the tail is cacooned inside the other folds)
But for slider up.....is it making such a great difference ? or are the number of 'no tape/tailgates' SU line overs incidents being hidden from our eyes?

Do you think in the event of a sloppy pack job, they would prevent a line over from happening ?

Yup, very much agree with the last point. Ive had two blown toggles, both on hastily put together unpacked jumps, and had two stand up landings because of flaring with a toggle and a riser.

what up hookit,
you may wanna be a little more detailed describing this method of gaffers tape.
if someone mis understands your post and wraps GAFFERs tape 2 or more wraps around the lines as if its masking tape that would be catastrophic! especialy slider up! gaffers tape is incredibly strong and incredibly adhesive especially if it bunches up.

anyone have any thoughts of this method for lost toggle?
at twinn this summer i blew a toggle on opening. using the rear riser on the lost toggle i decided to leave the other toggle stowed and grabbed the rears at the lines including the brake line. i was able to sink the canopy in pretty well and had an almost stand up landing.
probably not text book but it sure seemed to work well.

i've jumped ze potato bridge with slider up and a tailgate...no problems, maybe in hindsight wasnt the best of ideas but they were nice slow non-lineover openings

nothing wrong with that. i love slider up off perrine. so soft and squishy

Since having a slider up lineover I always use a tailgate now. I've been messing around with both slidergates and tapegates, but I keep going back to the tailgate.