Basejumper.com - archive

KL Tower Jump 2008 took place the last 3 days of August.

39 foreign jumpers and 10 Malaysian jumpers took part in the event. Over 700 BASE jumps were completed off KL Tower.

For the whole month’s tour over 1200 BASE jumps were completed. This included 6 different buildings and 10 days of BASE jumping.

There were no major injuries this year but there was a very close call on day one of KL Tower. An attempted single gainer off KL Tower looked nice and smooth at the start but the jumper over rotated and flailed about trying to restabilise. The jumper finally realised he was too low and must get something out. His parachute was starting to inflate as he crashed through the trees at high speed. The jumper walked away from the incident with only a few bruises. It was a good warning for all attempting aerials to be very carful with what they were trying.

While there were many issues leading up to the event I was happy to see that Menara KL finally came to its senses and terminated 2 members of it’s newly appointed technical team 2 weeks before the tour started. After this many more jumpers including myself became interested in attending the event.

I completed 154 building jumps on the tour and also 1 cliff jump in KL and a couple of cliff jumps in Thailand.

The event will take place again next year. Due to Ramadan the Muslim fasting month starting in August in 2009, KL Tower International BASE Jump Merdeka Circuit 2009 will most likely take place in October 2009. More information will be provided about this event early next year.

Thanks to Menara KL, Aziz and the rest of the Malaysian crew for their huge efforts in creating such an enjoyable event.


Gary

Gary that dude must Now have the official Low Pull Record at Menara Tower.???, Was D.W then J.J about 2 years latter. After watching JJ's shitdirty pull the one you are describing must have been as close as it gets and still be breathing ? ... . lucky Bastard he is.
DW's was dirty low but JJ's was screaming dirty low. you know the entrance to Tower ? As you standing at the front entrance to walk-in. Right hand side of entrance drops off to the concrete and lower road alternate landing area. His canopy was opening and went past the Entrance to the lower side. Was pretty dirty when watching from the entrance and seeing him and a not fully pressurized canopy wiz by. He was also asked not to jump the rest of that day. ...
.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHr3gWsMVY

Not the low pull, building strike. Any video of the low pull?

how the hell did that work out so well? good on him to keep on fighting that. nice smooth building.

last few frames - is that a dude wearing a blue skydiving rig or that gay look-alike backpack ?

Yes, he is a very lucky bastard and has the new low pull record for KL Tower.
I was walking up the stairs from the packing area on TH03 to the launch point as other jumpers were walking down the stairs. I saw the look on their faces and asked what had happened. They told me that someone probably went in. Jumpers who had seen it from the bottom had the same conclusion. When I got to the top and looked over the edge I could see the rescue crew and ambulances on the lower road beside the tall tree and could also see a parachute somewhere within the tree towards the bottom of it. I was then told the jumper was actually walking around.
I don’t currently have a copy but have seen a video from the top and also one the jumper shot from his own camera.

I remember JJ’s too which I think would have been in 2002 at the KL Tower part of the Petronas event back then. I vaguely remember JJ had a couple of seconds canopy flight and actually landed on the runway landing area.

I'm guessing this is the low pull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ct2Gqh5JUc

Wow that just looks fuckedup dirty low. nice Vid.
.

come one man..... thats just pathetic.. total loss of altitude awareness. irresponsible. way to go, anonymous.

LOL . AHhh yes. ..." pathetic.. total loss of altitude awareness" . added to my ..."looks fuckedup dirty low." . ya but at least he realized he was about to Die and Pulled. and that's what counts the most, When you are 'Goin-In'. ...
.

I agreed with ya, Its one thing to fuck up and do something about it then fuck up and say fuck it and go in.

and who would do that? fuck it and give up and die? c'mon.

you have to have 500 jumps to get to kl . so we will say he just had 500? it was his 2nd gainer , 1st in norway . he over rotated did not lose height awareness , did not want to deploy p.c. in stand up . he got it out in time . he is a succesful man in work and sport and up until then base jumping was easy for him . a good wake up call for him . regards , petefielding .

Did everybody on the tour have over 500 BASE jumps ? Seriously ?

Really???

there was a mantra that I learned early inmy jumping career.

PULL!
pull on time
pull in the correct body position.

they should be followed in that order.

if i was ultra low i'd dump on my back if i had to. and deploying in a stand up isnt that bad, especially sub terminal.

and i think it was 100 jumps for KL, 500 for the whole tour unless your malaysian.

Where are you getting the 500 jump requirement from? There were people with a whole lot less than that at KL Tower.

Craig

Ahhhh, you Americans take everything to seriously...
He lives, what does it matter if he did not follow the international BASE rule book and pulled according to the FJC regulations. He pulled in time and walked away with the new record of low pull at KL.
And I always thought that "altitude awareness" is a Skydiving word. In BASE you need "ground awareness", this will keep you alive

yes, he barely got away with it. what would have happened if he was on the other side of that coin. what would the Malaysian govt and the KL corp. do. cancel the event, maybe. I am glad i went and want to continue to go in the future. legal events should be approached a little differently than illegal jumps. open higher, don't fuck up and if you do fix it. cutting it that close was not good. i am sure he's proud of his record now.

Wow. This video is sick. That's one heck of a stike...and strike and stike and stike, etc.

The nose is totally chewed up...but he appears to stand up the landing or at least get up quickly.

It doesn't appear to be a vented canopy either...pretty amazing.

If you are addressing me like the "re:" suggests then please read a few posts higher.

http://www.basejumper.com/...post=2889283#2889283

original post suggested 100 jump min for KL, 500 min for the whole tour.

theres nothing american or european or whatever about it.

kl is a oneTHOUSANDfoot base jump.

thats pushing 9 seconds to impact.

if you cant get something out in 6, you really fucked up.
its nothing personal, against anyone, and youd have to be dumb as a brick to not learn from it, but still...come on.

epescially on a single gainer. from a grand.

Duuuuude, give Kerro a break. Boy's learning to do the " BASE Arial's " .
I got to agree with Pete F. and MikkiZH, also. He Pulled. It was Real Low pull. He pulled and the Big lesson was learned. Also he Pulled and did not fuck it up for the rest who are jumping.
ALSO - He Walked Away. (under his Own Power). I heard that he was eating a few anti-inflammatorys the next day for just a tad bit of muscle soreness. ...
SO HE IS, now the New record holder of the Menara (KL) Tower, Low Pull. and no Not even a fucking doubt about it. there is Vid. so it Really Did Happen. ...
.

Mmm, I don't like the emoticons on this thread so much.

As said, I think that you should be able to get something out by 6 seconds, stable or not. If your "ground awareness" is screwed up by not being stable, than that's even worse.

Also, I do understand that there is a first time for everything, like a gainer, but surely some training (pool, skydiving) and then mental prep (pull on time priority 1, before trying to get stable) are not shown on this vid.

And finally, just think what could (or would) have happened it things would have gone bad. First, another fatality. Second, risk of closing down base jumping in Malaysia.

Ronald

Ya I don't like my use of the Emoticons I put in the Post either. Now that I look at them. It's pretty fucking Gay looking I got to admit. Bad on me. fucking won't do that again.

Some of what you saying is true. You should always be on your best behavior when attending any event so no to make the organizers look bad. Organized Events are different than just going out and jumping. Also not the place to do 1st time stunts but just about everyone has done something above there skill limit a time or two @ events.
Except Bridge Day. No one gives a fuck if you go in there. Even Makes the jungle of bridge freaks & Looky Lou's bigger the next year. ... ( must resist Emoticon tag )

As for you saying, ..."just think what could (or would) have happened it things would have gone bad".
Truthfully I am real surprised that there has been no one Go-In @ KL since jumping started there in around 2000. The total # of BASE jumps completed there in the past 8 years is staggering. I think there has never been a -total Net Count- of completed jumps there. Thousands is being conservative I am positive and the bandit jumps made there over the years. Has to be just plain Huge in jump #'s also.
Someone going-in is bad no matter what country it happens in. Someone going-in there might have an effect on future BASE events organized there (maybe?) but I don't think so. also Malaysia is no where even close to being the Litigious shit hole like it is here in the States. Someone going-in is truly Bad Juju for organizers though. Not from fear of being shut down in future organization of BASE jumping events. But just bad. it's 'Bad Baggage' for organizer or other BASE participants that experience in it and carry that around with them.

OK, back to the topic at hand. So far as the Boy flailing a Simple Gainer and sucked it low. (true) . But who the Fuck Hasn't ? ". There has been the Occasional 'BIG Flail' at damn near every organized BASE event that I have ever went to. - ( OK not to give License to the Flail and all future Flailed jumps to come.) but...
If you Have NOT FLAILED something at least once at an Organized BASE event then you are not going to enough of them and surely not doing enough Jumps @ them if you are there. For him It All turned out good in the end. & No Way in hell he did Not learn something from that little fuck-up he did either. That kind of fuck-up makes the best throttle shy for a time. No BASE jumper gets to experience that kind of ground rush more than Once or maybe Twice @ best and lives. I'm sure there was some hard thinking on his part for days after.
Also Fact is, That is the all time record on that object for the Low-Pull. Does NOT Fucking Matter one bit if it's Not a proud moment of life or at the Event. It's the Lowest to date there. and a Hard one to Beat . ... ( OHhhh, must resist sly winky smiley Emoticon usage ! ) .
He fucked-up and Flailed, He Pulled, He Lived, He conquered and walked away to BASE Jump another day. He did not go-in and that what is most important. Also was good Vid. posted too and I really like that.
.

While I can't relate to the extemely low pull, I can relate to pulling unstable. See the attached photo of my frist gainer off this very tower in '04. Guess I over-rotated it huh?

The cool thing was the opending was dead nuts on-heading. But it knocked the lens off camera (which made for some cool frame grabs too) and then I landed in the trees next to the primary LZ - but that was by choice given the options I had on final. That was a hell of a jump.

Glad it worked out for both of us!

I have to add it took me 3.5 years before I attempted another gainer.

You did not over rotate. That is a classic example of Center Cell Strip and the instability it can cause. Rubber band the C-D line group packing tabs to the bridle attachment point at the canopy and your instability problems will diminish by a large margin.

Old post, I know. Could you elaborate on the C/D tabs and bridle attachment point bit?

Larks-head a large rubber band to your bridle attachment point. When you have your canopy all flaked out and ready to reduction fold, gather up all of the C and D packing tabs and put them in the rubber band. It's been a while since I packed this way, but I think I used a double wrap.

Let me know if that isn't clear, I need to pack a rig tonight and I can take some pictures.

That must have been a lame attempt at humor by telling him center cell strip caused his stability issues. I re-read the post and it's not actually funny.


The post above this one explains what I was talking about. I wouldn't bother with it. A person who used to manufacture a popular rig and canopy suggested to try that. I tried it a few times and didn't bother with it again.

Seems straightforward. If its not too much trouble, pictures would be great.
What differences during deployment have you noticed, if any?
Kind of sounds like a poor mans multi. And i happen to be poor.

I stopped rubber banding the packing tabs when I switched to the tail bury method of narrowing the canopy. I never noticed any difference.

rubber banding the packing tabs
... the tail bury method ...

Both work, I think the latter is superior.

Thanks for all of the info. Had never come across this before. I also pack burying the tail. Can't think of any benefit so will probably not try this. But... learning new stuff is part of the fun for me.