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 Does anyone remove the bridle shrivel flap when you're jumping* without the wing suit?
And who keeps it, can post some impressions please ???

I jump with the flap on my skydive rig without any problems, but... you know.... skydiving.....

*PS: considering terminal jumps...... for sure I will remove on low stuff, hand held, static line, unpackeds ....

Regards from Brazil,
Andre.

I've left mine on, never had any issues for anything from low ff to non-wingsuit terminal. How would you easily remove it? pick out the stitches of the bar tack? or just use a 2nd bridle without one?

2nd bridle I think is the fast decision.... but once I am packing my stuff to travel and don't have a 2nd bridle around ..... I will probably remove the stitches if I don't fell good with the mess inside the zp fabric on my BOC

Cya
Andre

Don't due it...... completely against manufacturers recomendation.
Also a possible contributing factor in a fatality this year in Europe. Why add a possible snag point/extra piece of equipment to a very simple system if not needed. The 15 dollar extra bridle is well worth the investment.
Just my .02 cents.

Looks like I'm ordering a 2nd bridle then. Thanks for the post.

i have 2 bridle: one whith shrivel flap, one without!
it's better!!

I have have two bridals, and try to always switch them out. I have done a few jumps with the Shrivel flap from my V1 still on the bridal. no problems, but yes, it could be a snag point. I would get another bridal.

I was looking at my bridle last night to see why I didn't see this problem already and didn't see anything that alarmed me. What are the snag points? The flap on mine is packed into the pilot chute with the rest of the bridle when stowed, so it's isolated from the container the entire jump. I never thought an entanglement with the pc mesh or rest of the bridle was a remote possibility. What's the logic on this besides keeping the system as simple as possible (which I agree with)?

I still plan on getting a 2nd normal bridle for non-w/s jumps, but I don't see a non-trivial snag risk on my setup. Am I overlooking something?

From recent fatality in Italy thread

We are composing it now. We could not find the "smoking gun". By this I mean that we were not able to recreate the scenario that led to the fatality. The most obvious thing from the police photographs was that the bridle shrivel flap was compressed. This is normally used in conjunction with wingsuiting. Manu was doing a tracking jump with a wingsuit modified bridle and also, he had a weak 32" pilot chute due to construction technique. These are the main factors that we are still researching at the moment. I will keep you updated.
Take care,
space

It's your bridle, but personally I'll spend the extra 15 bucks...... :)

Jay is right, spend the 15, 20, or 35 USD and get another bridal. the snag point is any kind of anomaly in the bridal itself. this includes the seemingly ironed-in fold points on the bridal. thats why when folding the bridal, do the 'step down' method, so nothing snags on the previous fold.

edited for spelling. I know, I know, weird.

Has always worked fine for when attached on any kind of jump. No reason to remove it, IMO, other than packing cleanliness. A second bridle is recommended over attaching/removing, though.

Edit: Should have read the other posts. Looks like everyone said the same thing.

I have never heard of this, it most likely glaringly obvious, but not 100% sure of what you mean with "step-down".

I believe that he's referring to the practice of folding the bridle in progressively lower increments, so that the folds do not perfectly overlap, but rather travel toward the bottom of the folded PC. The idea is to reduce the chance of a bridle entanglement (kind of equivalent to making the figure eights of line in the tail pocket move further toward the mouth of the pocket with each iteration).

ya.

Cool. Thanks Tom and Matt. I will try to start using this technique. I have just been making perfect s-folds to this point.

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Relevant to this post, bullet proof would be to change the bridle.