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Interesting...though I pretty much assumed this from the beginning...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/...exclusive-us-mi.html
http://blogs.abcnews.com/...pentagon-report.html

Coco

The United States of America supported Osama Bin Laden. The United States gave aid to the Taliban as late as 2001. The United States supported Saddam Hussein before, during, and after he used chemical weapons on the Kurds and Iranians. The United States claims to promote democracy yet has a history of helping to overthrow democratically elected governments in countries including Iran and Guatemala. The United States currently supports a dictatorship in Pakistan. The United States says one thing and does another. It is no wonder why most of the rest of the world hates us and is taking delight in our demise. The wonder is how can Americans be so oblivious to the Truth.

Honestly, I think the problem is that we've let the idea of some kind of higher ideals into foreign policy. The purpose of foreign policy ought to be to promote the national interest (selfishly) at the lowest possible cost. Once you start making the purpose "to do good" you open yourself up to all kinds of argument as to what "good" is, and also to the idea that some level of "good" is worth any cost.

Personally, I think that the best balance of cost and benefit in a foreign policy is basically not to have a foreign policy, and let the rest of the world manage it's own affairs.

My major objection to US adventurism in Iraq, Afghanistan, or anywhere else, isn't that it's immoral (which I believe it is)--it's that it's expensive, and our government expects us to pay for it.

sweet i didnt know iraq was a new vacation hot spot my flight leaves at 6am tomorrow awsome! no really though i leave in the morning sucks balls fuck iraq fuck the army i was suppose to get out of the army in july but thanks to stop loss i am going back again for 15 months. american soldiers die everyday for what to help "free" iraqis. this shit doesnt make sense to me anymore. its time for us to leave iraq and let what ever happens to iraq happen at some point we will have to stop babysiting iraq and leave and no matter what its still gona go to shit if their lucky things will work out but thats up to them. i say fuck em

i say we fucked'em.

many americans thank u for protecting the us.
it may be better to fight these wars on their land then here on our land.
remember nyc .. remember dc.
by fighting over there we keep them over there & not over here. we lost quite a few folks when our trade center buildings came down. i personally was working with an engineering firm on a nyc power plant. 40 out of a 50 person firm died. & that's just one story.

(my emphasis)

more Americans have died on there land than died here on our land.

preventing what? no one really knows... just as you believe the fight should be on there land, I bet many Iraqis watch their death toll rise and believe the fight should be on there land (i.e., over here).

and as Tom pointed out, couldn't we spend that money a whole lot better?

the politics of fear offends me (as practiced by ALL sides).

dammit all to hell. been dreading this day. the austin crew is gonna miss you. your luck bucket is overflowing. we love you dude.

oh god, their land their land their land.
yes im ocd

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