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like to hear some feedback on free falling 190'. good or bad idea umm pc setup pin velcro canopy size any other info very curious

It's a bad idea, no doubt about that.

It can be done frequently and with some degree of safety. Shoot me a PM if you have more specific questions.

about how much time do you get under canopy from a 250ft obj. details
46'' non vented
Standard Bridle
2 pin rig
non vented canopy

To even be considering freefalling below 200', you should already have known the answers to these questions. Those are the basics. What is your current experience?

wise words...but i don`t think that would help him in any way, you should rather give him some advice than "flame" him
have a nice day!

I don't freefall below 250' for good reason.

I`ve done 160` twice - the first time and the last time in my life 2 pins, 46" vented PC, non vented canopy.... It was f*cking stupid

You have a better chance

I don't think that's a flame at all, IMHO.

Freefalling low objects is serious shit, PERIOD. Anyone who would take blanket advice on this type of BASE off of an internet forum like this one needs to rethink their choices.

Think about it.

After a few close to 200', I have retired freefall below 240'... I was beginning to feel like a statistic waiting to happen.

yeah.....think about it

This is very true. With that said, I'll be back to sub-240 FF once I get current. Waiting on the weather to improve before I start jumping again, otherwise I'd already be out there. IMO it's very important to recognize this if you want to freefall low stuff.

what's your lowest FF so far? how many low FF (let's say 240' or below) have you done? how much do you weigh? how tall are you? how athletic are you? do you know how to fall (not PLF)? do you have any gymnastic/tumbling experience? how good are your PLFs? what is the landing area? what is the ground directly below you and in a 30' radius of the exit point (concrete, grass, etc)? what canopy do you have? what container do you have? how much jumps on that configuration? exactly how long does it take YOUR setup to go from pitch to linestretch at a zero airspeed exit? what's the range on that time (+/- how many seconds)?

I'm being completely serious. I've taken all this into account plus a lot of other boring, scientific factors with all my low freefalls. The effects of randomness ("bad luck") are much more severe in these situations, so stacking the deck in your favor is the most important thing.

Haven't jumped below 300' yet
and not sure if I ever will but I
like the factors you consider.

I have actually given thought
to temperature, moisture, and
field elevation's affect on air
density and how that c/would
affect the PC and Canopy.

well i never said i was going to freefall it just curious but thanks for all the wise advice and i will defiantly take this all into consideration thanks for all of your inputs

why would you even be curious if you didn't want to do it? my best advice for you is to grow a set of nuts and give it a shot.

if you use tracking pants and it is windy you may get some more distance from the object. Also a baggy shirt will slow your freefall rate.

Yea, and take a PJD before climbing...

i think you should come over and show me how its done o yea and now my outy is a inny

 

that is dirty low very nice

That's 260 feet so that opening was a bit slow.

Here's a picture Faber shot a few years ago. ==> Click

That was sick.

The jump greeny posted was 260'??

LOL...wrong S I posted about...

looks to me like you towed the pc a little.
is that your normal pc pitch technique for low freefalls?
if yes how often does this kind of tow/delay happen?
was this a one of a kind freak?
how low have you taken it with this pitch style?
whats your canopy time with a normal deployment from that alti?
how long is the bridle?looks a little short.
how big the pc?
how high is the bridge? 190?
questions questions questions...
hope you'll answer some.

Tim, that's a different bridge.

I measured the one in the video at 148 feet, by dropping a tape measure from exit to impact.

It's on the same road as the one you are thinking of, perhaps 10 miles further north.

I'd actually say the video is the fastest opening of a packed rig I've seen to date, and also the lowest handheld freefall I'm aware of.

I think you're mistaking the bridge. I know of 4 people who've ever jumped that one, and the first two did it by accident (thinking that they were at the span you are thinking of, and not realizing they needed to drive a bit further south).

although IT looks the same, the boulder , the cliff to the left etc.

if you look closely wear the opposite side of the object where the suppot is, it flares out more at the bottom of the support. also the boulder on the beach is smaller amongs other things and the POV of the carmera has grass to the left of it where the other object would still be a Bridge, a bridge that's longer than the one being viewed, on the POV SIDE.
The shape of the cliff is different too.

Also i've lasered the other bridge is'nt it 240' , i think this one is in the 135 to 150' range? 48 OR 49 YARDS RINGS A BELL?

but maybe i'm wrong?

SHIT! you beat me to it. yeah most of the time i've viewed tthat one the tides really in as well but sometimez it's not yeah that;s not a pussy bridge for sure

Woops. My mistake. I'm not even close. That's what happens when I post at 12:40 AM.

I know that bridge but was definitely off by one span. I was a bit confused when the opening looked normal but he appeared to be around 100 feet lower than he was supposed to be.

Dirty low is right.

Before people start watching Greeny's video and thinking "hey, no problem..."

Be aware that Greeny has a very large amount of low freefall experience (I'd bet money that he's freefallen below 175 feet more times than anyone else on earth--in fact I'd bet he's done more of those in one season than anyone else has done ever). His rig is superspecialized, including a custom canopy designed specifically for ultra low jumps, and a non-standard bridle length, and he's refined his pitch and freefall technique over the course of more ultra low free falls than anyone else I know would ever want to make.

In other words, that video may make sub 150' freefall look easy--but don't be fooled.

but to me it still looks like he is towing the pc a lil bit...
would be nice if my questions from above would be answered.
i'm just starting to freefall below 200 ft...done plenty in the 200-250 range. but i'm a little scared + i only have B or A type things to try this off.
i have enough time to turn an offheading 90 back on heading...just from 200".
so my question is...was that a deployment-as-planned?
is the short bridle worth it?
whats the deployment with this "swing" upward compared to folding the pc and fire it straight up as i leave?
i guess it doesn't help i'm heavy and jump a 300 sqft canopy?

feel free to pm me.

 

wow.
i estimated it higher than 143.
i'm out, thank you...it's staticline/unpacked for me in that range.

edit.
fuck me and my babbeling about the pc.
the more i watch it, the more i'm stunned by the explosion of the pack job at line stretch.
i'd really like to know whats modded on that thing.
can you do a solid 3 sec with it?

when you hear the pins are popping you know there is low altitude involved

Hello Mr Dexter
Unless you have changend your ways of doing "low" stuff i dont think you should give advise here..Im thinking of the S we jumped whith Hookit.. Thats NOT a prober way to pack/jump your pc off a lowish object doing so off sub 200ft will mostlikely kill or injury you..You had the hesi on that jump so you of all should know..
IF you have learnt alot since then,then you have my sorry and this post shouldnt have been posted.
Faber

Yeah, I remember that...

That was the super mushroom packjob. I used it for about 50 jumps and decided it didn't provide me any benefit.

That wasn't a very low jump.

well then you did listen to me by the end
And NO that wasnt low.. but even by your poor(or missing) delay off there you ended up lowish(still not a big deale as you still had plenty of flight).
But using that tecniqe sub 200ft is the same as calling the cops before you drive towards "the top secrect"

I just had a go on you,thourght you and K monster had died or somthing since i never saw or heard anything anymoreBut i hate you guys aswell so who gives a ratsarse

haha... that was a crazy trip huh? Danes do nothing but sleep!

I do rember 2(two) Americans who didnt wanted to drive the last 35mins from a Object to the house to get a prober bed to sleep in,neither would they let the cool danes drive their crappy cars that way.. so we slept in the cars ruin the next day..

By the way say hello to your mom and brothers.. Hope they did survive even as i destroyed the wc

It took me 2 years before i did my first arial.. still to day Kmonster were the coolest person on that trip(well besides me in her bekini ofcourse).

Not to mention Tom A eating grass as he got his chuppy arse kicked by a greate dane

So how did your rehab go,now nearly 3 years later are you then ready again.. I still have a date whith a waterfall

You're making a comeback tour to the US?

Oh, bring it on!

At some point yes,but not right away..
Im still trying to loose weight after eating all them burgers

Hey guys,
please stick to the topic at hand.

thanks!

Yeah Guys, come on, we have a 'topic' at hand..

yeah sorry..
But ff sub 200ft you shouldnt be asking about
first off its a danger area
second startfrefalling tese hights you better know your shit or you soon will end up in hospital or 9ftbelow

Try do a search on the subject..

Only 5 years ago info like this were hard to get,theese days its evrybody knowledge and "newbies" go fuckemselfup fr a good word..

Best advise.. If you want to work in the sub 200ft area learn your shit,find a person IRL(In Real Life) to back you up..

Unless you just want to be another # on THE list..

Highjacking a tropic aint nice and sorry for that.. but none of the info in this tread is not longer away than the search function on this board,Blinc or any other boards..

Info can be a lifesaving thing,but it also can go kill people..

Just my 0.25dkr

you guys just can never see sarcasm can you?

You guys . . .

Sometimes, and for some people, lower is better.

Less time, less mistakes . . .

NickD
BASE 194

words mr nick....words

is it better for you then? ya know, less time, less mistakes?

sometimes it is for me mr SLAMBO

reply to Slambo
nope not at all
My bad english sadly dont show my humor.. but it were meant in a funny/teasing way,sorry it couldnt be seen in my lines

Well i think for some point its correct
Basicly i think slider off jumps are safer.. ofcourse if you want to play in the sub200ft envioment the risk increase and i agree it some times is more dagerus than slider up...

But regular slider up or off then i think slider up is more dangerus...

I think it were DW,who once explained the reassons in a werry god wayThink the qoute is at Blinc somewere..