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Can any one please help, Ive got a system from a friend, but it doesnt have a slider, Id like to get myself one made, but need the size's for it.

Its bad enough that my serial number on the main is 00005 !!! I dont need any more Experiments

Thanks

why do you need a slider?

just jump low.

Lame.

What type of canopy is it?

The size of the slider is different for different canopies. The manufacturer selects the slider size based on a lot of variables, including the canopy design, slider material, etc.

The easiest way to sort this out is just call the manufacturer, tell them what the canopy is, and order the correct slider for about $50.

Thanks, It is a reinforced reserve, a prototype made by Chute Shop, thats why the serial nu. is 00005
I'll try and contact them then, I just hope that they still have the specs for the main.

Thanks again for your

May you have many a Safe, but never a dull BASE !!!

Willem

Gotta go with VERY LAME, Ive gotta 215m bridge in my backyard, if I wanted to fly around all day, I'll go paraglyding

Thanks any way for reply...

L8er

I'd be interested in the results of your contact with Chute Shop if you don't mind posting both for the reserve and the main. Are you planning on doing something really conservative (airplane) with the reserve before you take it off a fixed object?

Dude I have seen that thing fly; it's a real piece of crap that hasn't been properly tested; even at G.....z you are likely to hurt yourself. I have some footage of a friend jumping it; it's dodgy to say the least.
How did you get hold of it?

My Coach is taking me to Gourits bridge, its low,but not to low, has gr8 soft sandy,big landing area. I was thinking of plane, but cant risk doing it without a slider.

Will let you know

L8er

From Mickey,



He sponsered me, cause I just dont have the money to buy one... Ive been a local funjumper at Plett DZ for couple of years now.

Taks training me.

Any chance you can send me that footage, Id love to see it ?

L8er

By the way Chute Shop is doing business as Parachute Systems if you're trying to get ahold of them. Do you have bridges higher than 700 feet there? That would be a very high bridge around here.

That thing has been around for a while; I believe John put it together.
A buddy borrowed it a couple of years back and did a couple of jumps off G with it. I will try dig up the footage tonight if I am not too miff.
Seriously though, I would save up and get something decent with a well established BASE name behind it. Sell your tv or something. Nobody at Chute Shop except for John (and he has been long gone) BASE jumps. The whole approach to BASE in terms of rigging is completely different to the skydiving one.
While Mike and Tak have good intentions, I don't think they are doing you a favour letting you use that rig. Go ahead and use it if you think there is no other alternative but my opinion is that you should wait a little and put the odds in your favour by buying more contemporary BASE gear, tested and made by BASE jumpers. Something will come up, where there is a will, there is always a way and it's just a matter of patience I guess (look at Swiss John).

What the fuck is with the lack of common sense ??? If you cannot afford a new 60" TV - you don't buy it and wait till you can afford it. If you need a to put in some nails, you use a hammer, NOT pound them in with butt end of a screw driver. Right tool for the right job.

If you cannot afford proper equipment to save your life, then you just don't do the activity. What's with fucking rush ? I always thought "cannot afford" - means you can't afford ???? Why take shortcuts that can result in major plaster drama, especially when the product has history ? In real world this would be simple : if you cannot afford to do the annuals on the airplane - you cannot afford the airplane. All because it's mandated. I would imagine when it's your ass hanging under the nylon and you cannot afford properly maintained nylon - you really cannot afford to be under it either.


for fucks sakes wake up ...

Very true, if you don't have the money for a TV, you don't buy it, but if your friend gives you 30" TV you don't stuff it back in there face and say no I'd rather have a 60"TV, thats rude and very STUPID.

Until now I didn't know of any bad history under that canopy, I have had a couple of friends use it, and nothing went wrong...

I Trust my friends, they have been there for the good and the bad in my life !

We are like a close nit family, they wont risk my life.

So piss of with your "no sense" un-informed replies !

If you have something decent and meaningful to say, I'll listen and learn, If not your wasting your time...

The TV has a much lower chance of killing you if it malfunctions, or is too difficult to operate properly for your skillset. If it were the case, then it would be STUPID to not wait till you could obtain a safer, more suitable TV set.

No matter how close you and your buddies are, if they are teaching you to BASE jump then they are absolutely risking your life.

i can`t believe you even considering using a old reserve for fixed objects...even a bridge...., a base specific equipment is a very small price to pay for increasing your safety in this activity.....a used fox or mojo is a much better choice than your tarp...and it doesn`t cost that much money.

my replies are based on seeing a few minor and one severe injury under piece of shit canopies, that i believe could have been avoided by using proper gear. If you don't want to listen, that's your choice.

But instead of using a TV comparison, lets use a car with bad brakes comparison. If somebody gave me a free car with bad breakes I sure as hell would not just drive it, but either get it fixed, or not accept it - depending on the value.

Ignorance will result in a lot of cheap fun until shit hits the fan.

That is a terrible answer and I am sure you know it.
Look, Tak is a very good friend of mine and a way more experienced skydiver than I am, but I don't agree with his approach to coaching BASE. Take the advice the other people are giving you here. It is the internet and people tend to allow themselves to take a tone they wouldn't usually use in face to face speech. I used to get so pissed off in the beginning. In the end, all that i really worth keeping is the knowledge and in this instance, the advice; the rest is just the internet. Wait a while, get proper gear, it will be worth it.

Dude I'm still using an old raven 1 for a base canopy. The canopy is seriously older than I am and it has set me down nice and soft on all my jumps. Granted certain reserves just don't make good base canopies.

EDIT: And for what its worth that is 100 base jumps

Just a few thoughts:

Take a look at the fatality list and search for "base specific gear".

If I decide to jump from something with a given gear, it's my decision and my responsibility - so no one is risking my life but me. Not my mentor or the people on the load are risking my life.

In my FJC I had to check a canopy for defects. I think it was a modified Raven. After the inspection, I decided even if there would have been no defects, I wouldn't jump that tarp. My mentor told me, that he has done lots of jumps with that tarp. But he told me also, he was modifying and jumping that old reserve, because there was no base specific canopy at that time.

Today we have base specific gear and canopies. So why not use it?

Just thoughts from a newbie, Ingo

Out of curiosity I just did and only found one
reference which was in #20 --- noted as the
...first fatality with BASE specific gear.

Yes, the safest gear possible does help your odds
but there are still plenty of guys on the list with
state of the art gear --- BSBD.
___________________________________________

I completely agree with the other guys who suggest
that there is never a reason for us newbies to use
anything other than BASE specific gear.

But I think the data suggests that the pilot chute,
bridle, and rig are more important than the canopy,
especially for jumps from a bridge over water.

I personally have more money than gusto so I sure
as shit would never use a reserve for a BASE jump.

Edited for clarification.

Of course you are right. The search isn't that simple as I thought. But there are some accidents resulting from Skydiving gear. Just a few examples:

#10: "This jump cemented the cause for dedicated BASE jumping equipment in the BASE community."

#16: "This jump began the process whereby larger BASE pilot chutes and longer BASE bridles became mandatory at Bridge Day."

#23

and of course:

#41: "...and jumped only to find his bungee controlled collapsible pilot chute didn't work well at slow airspeeds."

I think there are some more. These examples result from a quick glance. But you are right again: you can have the best equipment, the best packjob, the best exit-performance and wunderfull weather and still something can go terribly wrong.

Again: thats just my thoughts and my decission. Whoever feels comfortable with modified Skydiving gear should go with it.

Ingo

my understanding of that incident was not an over-tightened belly band (as stated on the bfl)

rather

the wonderhog container (without reserve) he was jumping had a main pin protector flap that had a crack in the stiffener & because it opened to the side -old school (rather than opening up or down - like modern rigs) the bridle got caught in the crack & towed

btw - i pm'd ndg this info when he still did the bfl & he replied - thanks bro

i didn't think it was important to get this info out as you don't see many wonderhogs @ many exit points

Vid666 is right, you're wrong! His post made complete sense your approach does not. If ya can't handle a little critical advice then BASE might be a bit too much for you also.
People who have way more experience than you are all telling you the same message and it is you that doesn't want to listen. If you listen you may have the chance to become experienced if not well, at least the crows will get fed.
Yes, it is possible to use modified reserves and some of them work well for some kinds of jumps but why fucking bother? Do you use an old T-10 for skydiving? Maybe a Sentinel as an AAD?
BASE isn't going anywhere, the gear keeps evolving with little improvements here and there. So yeah, what's the big rush?
Not giving a rig back and or jumping some piece of crap because your homey gave it to you is STUPID! Walking away, waiting until the gear, timing and weather are perfect is as far from stupid as one can get!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it........

Admittedly I'm a newbie, but one thing I can't help but notice is that everytime I ask someone about why a BASE specific piece of equipment is made a certain way, or why you do something specific with packing or jumping, the answer seems to invariably be:

"well so-and-so didn't have/do this and then <something really bad> happened and he augered in/got really fucked up/died, and NOW they make it this way>"

With that in mind, it sure doesn't seem too wise to start using stuff that's not up to date, cause there's probably a fucking good reason why they don't make it that way anymore. And as everyone has pointed out there's enough ways to get broken doing this that you don't need to add bad gear...If I had that many people telling me I was a dumass to use that shit I wouldn't even think about it.

What if I just called you a dumbass in general I agree, people rarely all give bad advice for no reason.

If you just called me a dumbass in general you would, of course, be absolutely correct!

Now thats a good reply that Ill listen to. Advice that doesn't insult but teach.

I respect that, thanks.

I have no problem in smoking it, thanks.
I also have no problem with advise either, thats why I started this forum, to get more input from people who wants to help....
But when someone insults you, it show that they don't give a rats ass about you, they just wanna be heard for some or the other reason.

But thanks again to all, - points taken-, I'll keep the rigg for History sake then and practice my pack jobs on.

Regards to all who gave an input.

It's not really an old reserve... its never been used as an reserve, it is just in a similar cut and design.It's not even white,its blue and purple. Any way,like I said, as far as I knew, there was no bad history on it. Thanks for the advice, I'm not going to jump it, regards...

Yeah, your spot on, and thanks, I will take the advice, thats why I asked in the first place.

Thanks for the response, I have had to much guts all my life when it came to jumping off of things,since I was 5 I always tried to jump of something higher, practice all kinds of landing methods to go higher without breaking a leg.

I know and understand that things can go wrong and that I can die, or worse, get close but survive... And I'm willing to face that, always has. But after the forum I learn t enough to wait for a more modern main. For the sake of my wife in any way

Thanks

Shot for the individual replies.

Thought about it a little over the week-end.

Graham Holl who died a couple of years ago shooting an advert was very insulting to me when I started skydiving. I was just inquiring about wingsuits and he basically laughed me off. From the conversation I don't remember coming out any more informed and just remember thinking: "What an ass hole!!!"

Look, I know someone who did 300 BASE jumps with a spectra lined Tempo (although with 1 cliff strike), using a modified 'Invader' for the first few until he got a homemade velcro rig with which he wingsuited. You can get away with it for sure I just don't think it's the way to go when there is better stuff out there.

From the moment you jump off an object you are considered a test pilot, there are no rules, the decision is yours. That's the beauty of it; from the moment that gear is in your hands, there is nothing anybody else can do but give advise. I am glad you are taking the advice and am sorry if at any stage I sounded condescending or insulting. Hope to be able to make a trip down there soon.