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Want to change from my current side to a top mount. I dont really want to get a whole new helmet, and I have a mind warp. Id be interested to see what people have come up with.

If you have the funds handy, order a Cookie Liquid Flat Lock. You will like it.

T

Cookie Composites really helped me out in this regard. I sent my "Charly Insider" to them and a staff there by name Jeremy Hunt tried all of the poly blocks which they use on their own skydiving helmets but he couldn't match the symmetry of arc. So he made me a custom aluminum bracket with a Liquid Flatlock on top. I asked for it to be as small and as low on the helmet as possible so he cut a hole in the centre of the bracket to reduce its height. It thus has no excess length, width, height or weight. It's basically four legs joined by a frame except it's made as one piece and the workmanship is flawless. I’ve jumped it and it works perfectly.

John

they make a flat top attachment for the mindwarp (at least used ta make). it was just a flat top wide enough for a single camera that would match the curvature of the helmet and attach to the top. I dont see it on their site anymore though..

An aluminum bracket would be a swell idea too.

Out of all of the kit that I've got I consider the purchase of certified, impact rated helmet to be one of my most appropriate investments. Most other body bits heal, can be re-attached or discarded. Not so your skull & brain.

A quality helmet is a small price to pay

John

Not to discount a skydiving helmet, but this I think applies more to motorcycle helmets that go through serious testing. I am not sure that skydiving helmets go thru this. But I would agree with others that something is better than nothing. I just don't think we should go touting and impling that a skydiving helmet is "certified, [or] impact rated."

No offense meant...

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Leyroy

We might have got crossed lines. I was referring to the "Charly Insider" full face paragliding helmet which I use for Base. It is a certified impact rated helmet. It is not a skydiving helmet. I'm in the office and it is at home or else I could have quoted its certification.

John

John

righto, I missed that, appologies about that.

Le Roy

he had his "Charley Insider" modified, NOT a skydiving helmet.
from one webpage:

Please read one post above yours.

I missed it originally.

and I missed your correction...
oops.

off topic, but I hope everyone ends the year on a high note. enjoy the holidays and your family. jump smart. laugh heartily.

oh, and make your mistakes here, not on a jump!

50% of DOT helmets fail the DOT tests administered by a third party. To get DOT certification, no tests are required. To get SNELL certification, the helmet must actually pass the tests. Then there is the debate about what tests should be done.

Derek

I have an insider. (Helmet by Charlie) I use it for winter Paragliding. I really really like it, warm, cool looking, aerodynamic, and its SAFE! (certified.)

The only camera I have put on mine is ductapet Point/Shoot canon.
I would love a camera mount for it.

CH,

You had me going for a minute. I was having a helluva time figuring out "ductapet", when it occurred to me you meant 'duct taped' LOL
I thought maybe it was some new hardware.

Merry Christmas!

BASE359

Charley Insider. Biggest POS posing for a helmet on the market.

The PG world used a lot of them so I took mine apart to examine it. There is less compressible foam in a Charley than in a sixteen dollar skateboard helmet.

That being said I know nothing about BASE but have been trying to learn as much as possible via this forum.

Thanks guys!

The PG world used a lot of them so I took mine apart to examine it. There is less compressible foam in a Charley than in a sixteen dollar skateboard helmet.

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Skydrifters,

I surmise that impact protection is not yielded by the foam alone but also by the materials used in the shell as well as the symmetry of that shell. Impact protection is effected by dispersing the impact energy across and through the various materials including the foam and shell. All shells are not made of the same materials and hence have wide ranging structural integrity. No doubt you already know all of this.

As mentioned above - The Insider helmet is tested and certified to CEN Standard EN 966, which is a European testing standard specifically designed for helmets used for sport aviation. This standard includes tests for shock absorption, penetration resistance, and specifications for visibility and head mobility.

I tend to trust the certification authorities as they probably know a lot more about this science than I do however this does make me wonder about the various impact certification levels. Clearly motor cycle helmets are designed to a much higher rating and are approved by DOT and Snell I think, but are generally considered too bulky for Base.

I suppose that at the end of the day it’s a compromise and for me the Charley Insider is superior to a non certified skydiving helmet and offers a good balance of size, weight and visibility.

John