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A revamped version of UHUCK.com will launch this Friday. The 40 stop bail party tour will be added, as well as 6/9 jumper registration, pdf form letters, and permit applications. We have received an overwhelmingly positive response and enormous support, but we need your help to keep spreading the word. We encourage you to add us to your friends list on myspace.com/uhuck as well as to encourage all your friends to do the same.
Thanks again,
The UHUCK.com Team

I'm still waiting for you guy(s) to tell me more about who you are. Who is behind Uhuck? What is your experience level in BASE jumping and organizing events? Have you ever applied for a Yosemite permit? Have you ever participated in any legal Yosemite protests? Have you ever spoken with anyone from Yosemite about BASE jumping?

I have heard some bad things so far via private email. Here is your opportunity to show us why jumpers should support you and your protest jump.

I think you maybe trying to provoke those "behind Uhuck." Which is good.... Even if you are not provoking, it causes more publicity. Possibly , the more the better, for HUCKS cause...

It is my guess that it would probably be better to be anonymous at the present time as to why they havn't surfaced.. They may have reasons, then again maybe they are chicken?

Why do you, Jason, feel that this is "bad" and why? How better do you think we as a BASE community could approach this. The more ideas you pose, may just so happen to mold their decisions... You never know what they choose or already have choosen to do...

June 9th 2008, Sign me up...

Dear base428,

I will be handling the public relations for Uhuck and am replying to your post on their behalf. We are in the process of re-launching the Uhuck.com website which will include detailed information about the organization, the people behind it, and the goals and missions of the 6/9 protest jump. Your questions and concerns are valid and will be answered once we are ready to formally present the new Uhuck website. The initial response to the launch of Uhuck has been (pleasantly) overwhelming, we apologize for any confusion that exists.

As an organizer of one of the most successful base jumping events in the U.S. (Bridge Day), I'm sure you can understand that an undertaking like this takes a lot of time to collaborate and will, along the way, come up against some obstacles. The organizers of this event appreciate your interest and respect your expertise in this arena. Uhuck is hopeful that once everyone learns the expertise and dedication of the organizers involved, people such as yourself will be assured that 6/9 is being operated professionally and for the benefit of the entire base jumping community. It is Uhuck's goal to gain your support in this massive effort and utilize the valuable contributions you have already made in the same direction.

Please feel free to contact me directly with any further questions or concerns. I would welcome the opportunity to learn from the successes and challenges you've experienced with Bridge Day.

Best regards,

UhuckPR

sign you up for what?

an act?
a solid plan?
to follow what leadership?
or
just a hope?
just a goal?

these people may have a great idea. it may work. it may be what we need.

it might blow up in our face. it might create another generation of animosity. it might kill any progress made by the ABP. it might disrupt unannounced, workable plans.

personally, I will read the new website. that way, I have a better chance of making an informed opinion.

really, if an unknown jumper walks you to the edge of a cliff, hands you a rig, and says "jump," would you? wouldn't you want to know the landing area? wouldn't you want to pack the rig? wouldn't you want to know this person's experience of the site? wouldn't you want to know the get-a-way plan?

you are agreeing to something. can you tell me what it is? why you think it is wise and not foolhardy?

I'd really like to hear an answer... (before they launch the new site.)

Just as anonymous posters often lack credibility on forums, anonymous event organizers lack credibility in my book. How can anyone support a protest jump if the organizer is not willing to step forward? How do you know these guys are real jumpers with real BASE jumps over many years?

I have already outlined my thoughts and suggestions in the other uhuck thread. While I admire uhuck's interest in opening our parks, I wonder if they've contacted the ABP? They haven't contacted me, yet I have plenty of information that would help their cause. You can't really have a protest jump without the support of BASE manufacturers, event organizers, etc. What effect could a disastrous Yosemite protest jump have on Bridge Day? What about the hard work of other jumpers and the ABP over the past few years? Keep in mind that some of us who are fighting for access aren't necessarily posting daily reports on this forum....

The idea of a protest jump isn't "bad", as long as we've exhausted the countless other LEGAL efforts listed in the other uhuck thread. Save the protest jump until after we've had packing protests, mass permit applications, protests at DOI and NPS in Washington DC, meetings with Yosemite officials, etc.

,


Sorry, but I had to laugh at that one....
hilarious!

First impressions go along way in my book...

I am not a BASE Jumper, but I am a climber who frequents the valley. There are a hell of a lot of domes in that area that seem likely candidates for BASE. Has anyone approached the NPS regarding access to some of the more remote cliffs as a way to politely introduce BASE into yosemite?

I would imagine that a couple of years of uneventful BASE jumping would warm the powers that be to the idea of legalizing El Cap.

I worry that a large protest jump will put a bad taste in the NPS mouth. Plus, I can understand the desire to avoid having a base jump gone wrong squashing a tourist.

I have skimmed the APB website, but I did not see anything indicating that this had been done.

I am a little fired up myself about the anonymity of these organizers. So I went back through and read the posts that came from them along with the one posted by their publicist. They do not sound unprofessional in their postings, then in my opinion they are playing a chess game. They are not revealing their next move until they see what the other player has done. They seem to be handling this like a boxing match tossing jabs here and there and then waiting for an opportune time to throw the knockout punch. Supposedly the new web site will be up Friday, we shall see if they reveal themselves then. I hope for all of our sakes we can finally put a face to the cause. They seem to have a plan and have asked everyone to patiently wait for, and maybe this will be revealed on Friday.

I am agreeing with the general protest that is needed due to the fact jumping in National Parks has been illegal for far to long to not be given another chance. It is apparent that the next step needs to be taken.

Obviously this issue has gotten everybody on all sides riled up; maybe this was part of their plan all along?

So Jason, how are those quote un quote negative PM's going? How about you tell us who is saying these negative things? Obviously someone knows who the organizers are if you are getting bad info on them. Also Jason, how do know that you won't be the first phone call on Friday after you have had time to review all the information that would allow you to make an informed decision? Maybe, Jason it is time to post

How do we know that Robin Heid is not the one ultimately behind all of this? I guess we will find out on Friday.


It really can't worse as far as taste goes, and the chance of a tourist getting "squashed" is low since I haven't heard of any spectator being hurt by a BASE jumper....


If I were them, I wouldn't lay all my cards on the table either. Remember life is a chess game, and you just maybe the pawn.

or it could be one of those police actions where they invite a bunch of people with outstanding warrants to a concert. when they show up, they get arrested.
(I doubt it will be all doom and gloom, but I also doubt it will be all roses...)

patience! exactly!
so why declare allegiance before they reveal the new site?

but what makes this "the next step?" have you exhausted Jason's suggestions already?

yep, it could be part of the plan. by appealing to your emotions, they bypass your logic. don't be a pawn!

again, do you approach a BASE jump with so few details?

I have always wondered if this was a legitimate worry of the NPS. I know it is of climbers. (even though it is misplaced)

If the writers of the three negative emails I've received want to post their names or comments, it's up to them. I'm not here to "out" anyone, but the emails are from seasoned jumpers and they're legit.

Don't worry, Robin Heid isn't behind this from what I've heard. Uhuck is apparently a new "ski-base" jumper.

So you feel that UHUCK is or is not a credible threat? Do you think they have layed all their cards on the table?

I tend to be an optimist myself... I very well may change my position come Friday, just as you yourself may do.

I'll take any action over none.


_justin

I won't ask why you chose to release that information and nothing else.

      I'm not sure why are you and alot of other people are so standoffish towards these dudes whoever they are. Instead of asking why haven't you asked me? why haven't you asked them how you can help?
I'm not implying that you have any responsibility to do so but i think its important to realize that if uhuck does go down and however it turns out the general public will recognize that as "base jumpers" not one local crew or one group of friends.
I could see how it could be frustrating because we have little recourse to stop someone's actions that will certainly affect the sport, but i think we should be giving them not only the benefit of the doubt on this one but also any assistance we can(especially if we have knowledge on the subject of dealing with the NPS). Because in the end if its a big enough group cnn will be saying that base jumpers are protesting the laws and making a jump, not uhuck.

I've been asking questions, but getting no answers. Were any of you even around in 1999 for the last protest jump?

The bottom line is that some anonymous newcomers to our sport have decided to organize a mass protest jump that could affect us all. It could also affect the progress of the ABP, as well as Bridge Day. But let's wait and see who these guys are and hopefully learn more about their goals, gameplan, staff, and past correspondence with Yosemite.

No... Sorry, I am a newer jumper. But from I've heard/read it wasn't a success.....


And in the last 8 Years what progress has exactly been made?

As for bridge day, if a protest jump cancels bridge day jumping, well, it would seem we had a pretty fragile hold on it to begin with...

Since you have been organizing it, has it provided even the slightest in roads in other areas?

You have your permit denial with the NPS on the vertical-visions web-site, so I'm leaning towards no......

_justin

Off the top of my head:

In the last 8 years:
-Rewrite of NPS management policies section 8.2.2.7 (very important)
-Letters written to all jumpable parks regarding BASE jumping being included in the park planning process. Essentially, any park superintendent can OK jumping via a permit (special use, wilderness, or otherwise). Many parks wrote back OK'ing this.
-Congressman Tancredo writes varies letters to NPS
-Creation of automated ABP letter writing process, which I helped create in order to contact all Senators/Congressmen.
-Improved relations with park superintendents and rangers.
-Good track record at Bridge Day with 800+ jumps made each year.
-FOIA requests
-CJAA develops very detailed base jumping bylaws, guidelines, etc. that could be used to assist NPS in permit Yosemite jumps.
-10 year management policy waiver at NRGB for Bridge Day, approved by NPS Washington.
-Various special use permits for parachuting in National Parks (mainly skydiving demos)

I'm sure that there are 10-15 other things I've forgotten, but there has been a lot of work by many people in the last 8 years. Some items above may not make much sense, but they are important in the overall fight and they do indicate progress. Some overall progress has been made, but there is still much work to be done. Since BASE jumpers are generally disorganized and we have no "organization" to support us, work is slow. I have outlined several other legal items that I believe should be attempted prior to a mass protest jump. As they say...."you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar".

FYI: The judge could give $5000 fines, gear confiscation, and six months in jail for Yosemite jumps.

Solid post Jason.
As someone familiar with the fed govt, it amazes me how little most people know about how the govt works. What Jason is talking about and the things he is doing and suggesting are the ONLY way any jumps will ever happen legally in Yosemite. I really hope I'm wrong on that, but I'm 99% sure I'm not. Its a slow process that will take YEARS. Thats how the govt works. A history and record need to be built up before progress can be made and its going to take a lot of patience.

I'm not trying to be insulting but many jumpers (IMO) when it comes to this subject get blinded by emotion and start acting like immature children. Whaaaaa! I wanna jump and if you don't let me I'll show you! I'll come with all my friends and do it anyway!!!!! Whaaaaaa! Its actually kind of laughable.

I realize its frustrating. I'm frustrated too. But if the organizers haven't done some of the things that Jason has asked about and suggested then you just look like idiots to the NPS powers that be. It doesn't look like you're showing any real effort because you aren't going through the proper channels. It doesn't look like you really want to exact change for an extended period of time, it just looks like you wanted to get one jump off, like you just wanted self-gratification. "Look! I can jump despite your law!" And then you're arrested, your gear is gone (you get a fine) and its over. It seems very short sighted to me.

If you've done what Jason is talking about then good, thats a start. If you haven't, you're not making any progress, you're simply heating up that cliff and looking like immature brats. What are you hoping as the outcome of this? You're still going to have to go through the proper channels regardless if you want long-term access. Learn how the govt works. Anyway, I've written a book here and this post is way too long so I'll stop here. Good luck to the organizers! Hopefully you're doing some of the right things prior to the jump....and listen to Jason!

so who is this uhuck person? and why should i give my money and support to somebody that stands in the shadows and isn't man enough to step into the light. don't get me wrong, this is a great cause and i will support it as much as i am able to.

dylan motherfuckin myers

...ahhhhhh... a big refreshing ...
"Thank you"

 

Wow, all of you are acting like a bunch of 5th graders that weren't picked for the kickball game. First off, there are several organizers. I am one of them and I am not from Tahoe. All of us have experience, all of us are BASE Jumpers. The credential coordinator is one of the most highly respected BASE Jumpers in the world. He or she has asked to remain anonymous even after we reveal ourselves tomorrow. Do you think that they would get on board and stake their reputation on something if they thought it was some "yahoos" putting the protest on?

I am glad someone finally used the "who is" look up and at least showed a little internet savvy to find out where the name is registered.

I love Beavis and Butthead. Great reference! Especially since "you know who I am." Which, there is not one of you that has posted here that does. And, actually, I have met all of you.

Why is it that everyone speaks subversively when they are left out of the loop?

Jason, ironically enough, you are going to be receiving a media kit on Monday, as well will Robin and every BASE Manufacturer in the US. You are also going to be the first phone call that is made. For some reason, all of you have taken our silence as "Beavis and Butthead" putting on this protest, when actually we are highly educated persons with a lot of experience in dealing with national and international government officials, degrees in Political Science and Marketing from top ranked Universities, and business owners.

I am not sure why all of you fly off the handle without having any of the facts behind what we are doing. We are of the philosophy "divide and conquer." The only representation that is being made that we are not trying to work with the NPS for a resolution is by all of you and your wild assumptions. The only representation that is being made that we are not going to immediately try working with Vertical Visions and the ABP are by all of you, Jason included. How do you know that we are not taking a route that is exactly what Jason and Robin have done, only with some added twists?

I ask Jason and Robin to not take our actions as an attempt to undermine their efforts in any way. Quite the contrary, we are here to augment their efforts.

Imagine this for one minute:
A BASE community where everyone leaves there egos at the door and works together to achieve one common cause for the better good of the community. I do not believe that with the insults that are flying around here that this will be possible. However, I hope that I am wrong. I look forward to all of your responses tomorrow afternoon (PST) after we make the new site live.


Best Regards

One of the UHUCK Organizers

In sports, there are two types of referees.

One referee lets the players or teams dictate the style of play...taking a lesser role and just making sure the rules and ideals of the game are upheld.

The other referee attempts to impose his or her will on the game, essentially dicktating the flow of the game to a style of their liking.

Wwarped, if you were a referee, you would fall into the latter category. Not saying this is bad...not saying this is good...just saying it.

so its a bunch of yahoos then?

because thats the impression i got from the uhuck site and video... it reeks of youtube style we-are-so-fucking-rad

whats that quote in the video?
were not dumbasses..were badasses?


maybe it will change on friday.. but for now it looks very unprofessional.

good luck regardless....

ps. "bail money party" ... what a joke.

So does this mean that we are not on your Christmas Card list?

 

Yes, we already have legal counsel. Three attorneys total...one corporate, one tax, and one first amendment. What you must understand is that I am a chief executive officer for a multinational company. Business and law is what I know. Please stop wasting the BASE communities time with grade school business logic.

ohhh snap !!!

Good Post by you and also Jason. So far as I know, there has been no direct contact by UHUCK with the ABP. If they do, I doubt if they would find any support for this Yosemite protest jump. You are very correct as to how the Govt. works, slowly. I just retired after 30 years as a Federal Attorney and I feel pretty sure that a protest jump will not achieve the results of getting Yosemite open especially after the last one ended in tragedy. The only progress that has ever been made with the NPS is by negotiation and establishing some reasonable dialogue. As Director of USBA, all Joy and I try to do is carry out the original spirit of BASE as a sport by keeping the numbers alive. Carl's vision was always to promote safe legal fixed object jumps worldwide. It even says so on the back of your BASE card. He got several sites legal including Yosemite for awhile, he got a building in Memphis legal, he got New River legal before the NPS owned the land at the bottom. Carl's method was to use honesty, a little charm and face to face negotiations so they could see he wasn't a nut. I am a great believer in civil disobedience, like the sit ins against discrimination, protest marches, boycotts, strikes, etc., but let's face it, we BASE jumpers just don't command that kind of sympathy, morally or legally.
Since Joy does most of the work issuing the BASE numbers, I felt some obligation to help now that I've retired by agreeing to act as General Counsel for the ABP in order to gain a dialogue with the NPS on specific sites. BASE still seems pretty radical to most people so this process takes time and a showing of professionalism. Even though most of the UHUCK organizers have not come forward yet, I totally understand their frustration. Americans should not have to go to Europe etc. for tall cliff. Some of us old farts that have been in the sport for probably TOO Many years, have begun to understand that we really have very few real "rights" to BASE jump and I can assure you it is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment. Guys, this is a conservative world right now. Today, we're so uptight at protecting us from ourselves, the authorities would throw Columbus in an asylum for wanting to sail across an unknown ocean with no charts.

My main reason for posting is to ask the UHUCK folks to examine their real motive. If it is to help the entire BASE community gain some legal access in National Parks, I feel this method of a mass protest jump just will not accomplish the goal. It may very well even hamper efforts by the ABP and perhaps others that are working on test sites in other Park units. It could even cause problems with BLM who own the cliffs in Moab since they are all under the same Dept. of Interior. Just think about the real outcome. I fully support your reasons and feelings, but I just don't think you'll get the results you want.
Cliffleaper
#38

You guys are being ridiculous with your accusations. It was very easy for me to find out who the jumpers are behind this and to get in contact with them. It took me all of about 10 minutes of research.

I won't say who they are it's up to them to declare that. I will say they are experienced jumpers and experienced in PR and marketing. What they are working on has a lot of merit and no one knows the effect it will really have. However if you paid attention to their objectives you would notice they were holding fund raising events to seek the support of the general public. If these events don't go well then we will know we don't have the public's support and probably shouldn't attempt the protest. However, if these events go well then everyone will know.

 

i really hope this doesn't turn into some sort of Red Bull (type) sponsered stunt, to put certain people in front of the camera , with their Red Bull (type) helmets and canopies shown all around etc. or something that some how benifits somebody at the expense of other's. good day.

Here's my response; YAWN.

As far as I know Red Bull has nothing to do with this Uhuck thing. Neither do I or any of the crew that I jump with here in North Lake Tahoe.
Shane

Wow... I guess you are a badass, just like I read on the uhuck website? Or is it a Rebel with a Cause?

Here is my worry...

When I jumped an object today - I did everything possible to make sure I did not burn it for my friends who might jump it tomorrow.

You guys are playing with fire. You have the power to make a big impression with what you do. Such a big impression, you could burn all NPS sites for the rest of my life... I had the power to burn one object today. You are setting yourself up to possibly burn every cliff wall in the country.

You have a huge responsibility on your shoulders I would personally never accept without a structure to make sure the will of the community, not the will of a few organizers, drives the event.

I am not impressed thus far. A video on the website that makes fun of our former President of the US? Perhaps the judge you will be in front of in a few months was appointed by that president? Perhaps the leadership of the NPS is democrat and worked with him at the Whitehouse? Why in the hell would you guys have a video that has nothing to do with legal base jumping on your site, that shows other illegal jumps, and pokes fun of a president? I just don't get it...

But... Most importantly - you are going to represent our entire community when you do this protest jump - yet when someone gives you very direct constructive criticism you proclaim you are the expert and they are grade school educated, and demand they stop waisting our time?

I believe somewhere in the BASE community we have an ethical standard to insure sites are not burned - and to do that - we respect the consensus of the community.

If you want my respect and support, and I am willing to give a lot - you have to open your ears to what everyone in the community says - and address their concerns - not insult their intelligence.

people complain about referees. fine. the "rules and ideals" here aren't mine, they are Sangiro's. I try to enforce them as best as I can, using my flawed human judgement. (I've second guessed myself.)

Sangiro owns this place, just like NASCAR is owned by an individual. both must conform to the owners' vision. both owners derive income from advertising. both are a far cry from the "amateur" NCAA football or basketball leagues.

and unlike sports, I also get to participate! I can chime in when I see fit, with my point of view.

if you disagree, feel free to say I'm full of sh*t.
(just try to be polite about it!)

oh, and if we can't co-operate with each other here, do we expect this community can interact well with the NPS?

how can this individual risk their reputation if they remain anonymous?

(the post above has precious little with being a moderator. it is a participant's post.)

so, i've browsed around the "site" as it now stands.

and on your sponsers page towards the bottom in smaller writing it say's this:

"From January 1 until our 6/9 protest jump we will be filming our entire adventure. We feel that what we are doing is truly amazing and something that people would enjoy watching in a reality TV style format. This is yet another avenue for companies to show their support for action sports and to reach a huge market of viewers." (copied from the sponsers page towards the bottom.)

i don't like this. it seems like some other agenda for attention. if you truly want to protest, there really shouldn't be any post production tv stuff.

i'm worried now at what you guys MIGHT be up to. prove me wrong , but my antenna's up now. TV sucks. prime time TV sucks, and reality TV sucks the most.

i guess we'll see tomorrow what revisions are made but i'm not counting on anything.

unfortunately the minority kills it for the majority.

Dont most of us currently make illegal jumps all the time? Just say the reaction from the GOV isnt good after the jump, and someone decides that it is illegal to jump off anything in the US. What is going to stop you from jumping a certian object anyway? Maybe you will have to do it a little earlier in the morning or on certain days of the week. Make bribes with authorities. Or have good timing. Are there any more base ninjas or is that just a myth??

If we dont jump: sites will be illegal for who know how many more years.

If we do jump: either we get to jump sites in the near future with ease or ..... you become one with the night and jump sites in the near future anyways. Just adds a little more excitement

 

Agreed. Not only do I think these guys have some shit hot skills and overall public BASE experience, but they have done ten times the amount of positive BASE exposure than any of the rest of the BASE community. and that kind of precedence is nothing but good.

 

I agree with them. I think if BASE can get better publicity it will ulitmately help us in the long run. What about some kind of charity jump or something? Have the Red Bull team come and have jumpers pay to jump and give that money to charity. That way we wouldn't have to raise bail money and it would make us look much better to the public and maybe get a little more support on our side. Then if everything goes well we can talk to the NPS about maybe doing it annually and opening up some sites. It may work it may not but I don't think it could hurt us. Thoughts, comments, anything

i agree, i wasn't trying to pick on Red Bull. that''s why i said red bull (type). but isn't Felix one of those guys, and didn't he call up the media to watch him Dayblaze an southeren california antenna? and other bone head type stuff. am i wrong about him?

I just worry about a whole sponsered "type" set up is all. it could be by any company wanting "their type" of brand/brand name in front of the camere's. good day.

Areed.

Ummmm, you can't burn ElCap. The heat has been on it, and will continue until something changes.

The beauty of this protest jump, is the strength in numbers. The NPS will continue to throw ridiculous fines and confiscations on pairs of jumpers, only because they know that you won't be able to fight it. Its just easier to lose your gear, pay $2000, and feel lucky that you aren't getting thrown in Federal prison for 6 months.

If an attorney costs $xxxxx, split into two, that sucks. If you divide it by 20, it sucks less.

I believe in getting the National Parks opened up enough that I am willing to lose my gear, pay a fine, and split an attorney to at least make a stand against the NPS and their discrimination.

The most American thing possible is to stand up to unfair and unjust laws. Whining about it on the internet BASE boards for years, while the NPS smugly smiles and laughs, isn't going to work anymore.

And as far as a reality show, RB style whatever. Lets think about this as a non-skydiver even. I'm not a fan of their style, especially if its within 500 miles of my house. But, every time I have made a legal jump in TF or Moab, EVERYONE thought it was the greatest thing that they saw. THEY LOVED IT! There isn't going to be a single person in Yosemite Valley that is going to be offended, angry, hostile, or blinded by the unsightly parachute in the air. Unless they are wearing a cute little park ranger hat. The PR spin can, will, and should, make the NPS look like the rent-a-cops that they are.

With all due respect to the NPS.

What happens if the judge sentences everyone to the maximum and everyone has to spend 6 months in jail (federal prison?) Are the participants considering that as a possibility?

so , just talked to one of the organizers, and was pleasently surprised. Take a look at the new website coming this afternoon. Set aside the snap judgements for now and see how it all comes together...
oh and we don't don't need to make the rangers look like shit, that will only make it harder for us in the long run, they don't make the rules.

 

Imprisonment
36 CFR 1.3 Penalties.

(a) A person convicted of violating a provision of the regulations contained in parts 1 through 7, 12 and 13 of this chapter, within a park area not covered in paragraphs (b) or (c) of this section, shall be punished by a fine as provided by law, or by imprisonment not exceeding 6 months, or both, and shall be adjudged to pay all costs of the proceedings.

Fines

18 United States Code (USC) 3571(b)(6)
(b) Fines for Individuals.— Except as provided in subsection (e) of this section, an individual who has been found guilty of an offense may be fined not more than the greatest of—
(6) for a Class B or C misdemeanor that does not result in death, not more than $5,000;

Base666,

Since you are supposedly Dan H., investigator for the NPS...

Can you please help our community?

We just love to fly. We love to be outside. No different than someone who loves to climb, who loves to be outside. Climbers use ropes to get off of mountains. We use parachutes.

I can be reached online here via a reply to this post, and/or a PM... What can we do to make the NPS/BASE community relationship mutually beneficial? Give us some hints as to what we would need to do to find an relationship with the NPS that would work, and I am sure the energy you see in this thread will follow thru with a community willing to work with your team, instead of protesting against your team.

Its friday, 7pm where are the revisions on the web site?

ROFLMAO

Yo Crossfire guy,
Since your the only one balln' up, speaking for J.G.,
Do you guys really have
Discovery network
Travel Channel
A&E
HBO sports
Espn
Red Bull
& Mtv (is that shit still around) as you're sponsors or am I just reading this wrong?

[devils advocate]
Making a website can be a tedious process... especially when on a time crunch... especially when you want it professional... Then again... maybe the NPS spiked her or his computer?
[/devils advocate]

Then why tell everyone that it will be done today?
That isn't very professional, tell us an accurate date,
Now how are we supposed to Know what info is credible, how do we know that when 6/9 rolls around the same thing won't happen.. a no show by uhuck?
Dont get me wrong I love the Idea and If it goes down I will be there. But it needs to be done right to make any positive changes. I hope this isnt a representation of your organizational skills, If you cant manage to get a web site up when you say then how will you manage to plan somthing as HUGE as this.

But I really hope it works If not at least we get to dayblaze the Cap...

For the record, I am not a part of Uhuck's organization, other than posting on this thread..

[devils advocate]
Seriously I would guess they probably are working around the clock on this and have run into some issues. I'd say it would be pretty hard to build a business in a week... thats just me though
[/devils advocate]

Yo T,
Warm and fuzzies come from moms and therapists.
Dan is a cop, his passion is law enforcement.
You understand passion, yes?
As much as I don't understand why someone would want to be a cop, they don't understand why we want to jump off rocks. But when you are on his turf, you play by his rules. His rulebook says no jumping off rocks. He is bound to enforce that rule. Dan does not make the rules, if he did, we'd probably be jumping in The Park.

It's going to take a lot more than building a website.
Anybody can build a hip slick and cool website.

I can build a site in a minute showing diamonds and emeralds and gold,
even if I only intend to sell you glass and tin.

The proof will be in the pudding.
We expect to have our pudding.

Pudding is delicious..

Fudge.

WOW the new site is just fucking sick !!!

Damed I'm getting to american. I didn't even recognize the irony in your post... I went straight to the UHUCK page

Maybe the site isn't up because the organizers have already been arrested for conspiracy.

Hm... its sunday, Uhuck.com scam?

Is it kinda like BASEride (aka skyride)? na...

I'd say give them till tomorrow morning... After that, meatloaf said it best... "and I want my money back"

lol

I hope the new website is what they proppose it to be...

The new homepage is online. Looks neat and most of the advices/harsh critique which was said here seems to be implemented.
It looks like they are setting up a petition.

They even tweaked the video, a little bit.

Jason is even quoted on one of the pages...

 

It's working fine for me here is the link:

http://www.uhuck.com/