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Wanted some info on the Malaysia tour, and by the tour I mean the whole thing. First, are they planning on doing it again next year? I also wandered if anyone on here who did the entire tour last year had an idea on the overall cost excluding airfare. Is shit cheap/expensive? Who do I contact about the event (the organizer). What airport do you fly into, and what airport do you fly into if you only plan on going to the 3 day main event on the big building?
Thanks

I did not do the "Full Tour" however, a good friend did. He said "$1,500 Hotels, $2,000 Airfare, and $1,500 Cash." The one thing that he said is pay the upgrade for business class flights in Malaysia. The cost of the upgrade location to location is less than the overweight luggage charges in coach, and the business class weight restrictions are a lot higher than in coach. Basically, you have nicer seats, for less cost. Gary Cunningham puts the whole event together and gives all of the information you need. Go on www.kltowerjump.com.

I did go to the 3 Day Event at the KL Tower. The one thing I can tell you is "BOOK YOUR OWN ROOM AT THE PACIFIC REGENCY DIRECTLY!" "DO NOT" GO THROUGH THE EVENT ORGANIZERS / MENARA KL!!! If you trust me on anything trust me on this! PM me if you need the full nightmare story.

Fly directly into Kuala Lumpur International Airport. It is about a 45 minute to 2 Hour cab ride into KL depending on traffic. About 150RM (ringits).

If you drink, take your normal beer budget and triple it! Beer is not cheap. About $10 (us) each. If you have been to Norway, you already know what the drink budget will be because it is the same.

My total for the 7 Days I was in KL was $3410.00 (including airfare which was $1285.00, Hotel, Transportation, event, food and booze). I had other miscellaneous stuff that put me over the 4000 mark.

This is kind of a bump. Does anyone know anything about the tour in 08? Nothing has been updated onhttp://kltowerjump.com for this year. I went last year to the three day event and want to do the whole thing this year, but need to start planning now. thanks.

Nothing has been formalised yet but Menara KL are working on it.

4000 USD???

Airfare from Europe is € 1000. Hotels are really cheap in KL, or Malaysia for that matter, so if food. 10 USD for a beer? I guess you looked like a tourist
Spent 1 month in Malaysia and total cost was just € 1800, including airfare, hotels, food and transport (no flying though, just bus and train).

Good luck,

Ronald

Any progress on this year? Website still says 2007

Unfortunately I am no longer involved in organising the event.

Menara KL now use their own website for the event and have listed a new technical team on it. I hope the new technical team’s hostile takeover does not continue to have the same negative effect on the event as it did last year. It was no fun having to get Menara KL to reorganise the fine details of their entire tour just days before it started so it would at least be semi acceptable to jumpers and so we would get to jump. Thanks to Aziz and Mazlin for their huge efforts last year in trying to turn it back into a good event for us.

Menara KL’s new tour listed on their website has been increased from 19 days to 29 days with no real extra jumping. As far as I am aware we cannot BASE jump at their new location at Mulu. For me the event is now excessively long.

For those that have been asking me about Aziz. He is still in hospital after his plane accident. I spoke to him last week. He has burnt legs and will probably stay in hospital for another few weeks.

I am still happy to help anyone who wants information about going to Malaysia.


Gary

yaa...i know about the BASE jump at Malaysia 2008. The event will start on 3rd August at Menara Pelita, Sarawak - 9 & 10th August at Menara Tun Mustapha, Sabah- 15, 16 & 17 at Menara Alor Star, Kedah - 23rd &24 August at Menara KOMTAR, Penang - 29 , 30 & 31st August at Menara Kuala Lumpur and Menara TM on 31st August 2008. For those who are interested kindly send a registration form to menara@menarakl.com.my

Gary, I am sorry to hear about the hostile takeover. You ran a tight show and it was bar none. I will miss you running the show.

Le Roy

just out of curiosity, what other SIMILAR events are you using as basis of comparison ?

I am not compairing it to any other event as it was its own animal. Why do you assume that i was comparing it to anything other than itself?

Maybe what you meant to ask (unless you were being an ass) was why do I think or feel that Gary ran a tight show?

Care to retort?

so dude...
we didnt say anything until now!
we did not take over the event. especially not in a 'hostile way'. this is the way gary c is talking about it.

menara kl asked us (the 'new technical team') to help them with the event. they did not hire gary again for reasons i do not wanna publish here...

about this years event...
the new location mulu is supposed to be a cliff jump into a cave...thats all the info that we got!
moreover on the full tour there are more days of jumping...and the shark-fin is again on the program...
the kl tower event is the same like every other year before

if you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Hi Le Roy,

Are going to joint this year event at Malaysia?..

should you need further enquiries please do not to contact me and I would be delighted to assist you.

We promise you that this year event will be an exciting event.

i'm doin' what JEB's doin'

Sophia,

I will give you a few hints about your event since I sense a struggle to entice people to attend the tour. I still get lots of queries from jumpers asking what they can really expect. The bad news up front is you should expect 50% cancellations from what you have now. That is normal every year.

I believe jumpers that are giving up a lot of their time and their money to attend your event would like a reasonable opportunity to jump off the buildings. We know that at the first building it becomes hot and thermally and the winds often come up very early. Jumping can be over for most jumpers by 10am due to the wind conditions. According to the schedule I see on your website you don’t plan to start jumping there until 10am. I would suggest you alter your plans so all jumpers actually have a chance of jumping the building.

I would actually suggest you reorganise your whole schedule to take into account the logistics and practicalities of base jumping at each site. It might help to talk to base jumpers that do have extensive knowledge about each of these sites.

You fail to mention in your list above, your new special jump advertised on your website. Is that still happening? I believe is supposed to be at Mulu Caves. Menara KL was told over a year ago by the person they sent there to check it out that we could not jump there. With this information I keep seeing the CEO of Menara KL announce in the media that he is taking BASE jumpers there to jump. Are there some new developments with this site or is Zul still in dream world? Do you expect jumpers to naively pay to be taken to a site they cannot BASE jump off? Or is it being turned into a skydiving event as I have heard?
Jumpers really want to know what they are paying come and do so it would be wise to provide some real information about this location if anyone actually knows anything. No information to me means no one has a clue, which I suspect is the case.

I have already told the people in Sabah how to fix the event at the third location. You can find out from them if you are interested. They are very professional at organising events.

The way I see things is location 1 may not be jumpable with your current plans. Location 2 is not somewhere we can jump. Location 3 should be fine as long as you don’t plan erratically like you tried to do last year.

I will leave commenting on the other locations till I have more time and when I see a final schedule.


“We promise you that this year event will be an exciting event” does just not fill me with confidence. I suggest you provide a schedule that jumpers will find suitable and worthwhile. Then some jumpers may want to attend. And don’t promise anything that you cannot provide or is not real. Jumpers want to know what they can really expect.

I have documented all the issues for Menara many times anyway. Look at my notes from the previous years if you are not forbidden to do so.

I also saw a post from you the other day that seems to have now disappeared. I believe it mentioned about trying to get heavily subsidised accommodation etc.
I have heard this every year and I would be willing to bet it in not going to happen. Maybe you can subsidise the entry fees instead. Menara KL did tell jumpers on the tour last year that they would make it much easier for them to come in the future, right? I am disappointed Menara KL they decided to make it more difficult and less desirable instead.

I would also insist you remove the flying fox wires at KL Tower during the event. Both years they have been up jumpers have hit them and many others have had close calls. The jumper last year dropped from them and tumbled down the steep embankment. The wires have turned a good landing are with a reasonable out into a death trap. A slight misjudgement there used to be little to no issue. With the wires there the same misjudgement can now be a life threatening situation. And I don’t find it funny when Menara KL laugh about that. It is not acceptable to have them there for such a high profile event in the structure that it is run with maybe 1800+ jumps done on a weekend. No doubt they will catch more jumpers out this year.

I do know that the Menara KL staff and the people at the various locations do want to provide jumpers with a great event. It just seems to me that their upper management make irrational and careless demands that often prevent this from happening.

I hope they can turn it around into a good event for those that are going.


Gary

Hey innocent young puppy dog or Jojo or whatever they call you.

Why not? Everyone has been asking me for months.

Who is controlling it then? Anyone that knows anything about BASE jumping or the listed sites?

Hmm, Really?

I am very sorry if you were offended by my comments. I clearly understand the level of hurt by the threatening message I received from someone.

I was actually removed in the lead up to last year’s event but Menara KL became desperately reliant on me again when they realised they had no idea about base jumping.

Maybe it was a figment of my imagination that we had an extraordinary struggle to reorganise the event last year so you would get to jump. Things were made extra difficult for not only myself but the Menara KL staff and everyone else involved in organising the event. Maybe the Menara KL staff and others were wrong in their strong beliefs that the girl in your new technical team (the one I refused to invite back to the event) was responsible for instigating all the issues. Maybe the constant warnings and disappointment during the event from jumpers, media personalities and other event personal about what your technical girl was up to was all a mistake. But I don’t think so.

It is not important anyway.
What is the story, I hear you married the girl now.


Maybe you can privately tell me the reasons then.

I think it is common knowledge in the BASE community.

As far as I can assume, it is due to the only jumper I have refused to invite back to the event. No one else has even come close. Her only option was to have me removed from the event. Since she developed a very intimate friendship with the CEO of KL Tower she actually managed to do that.
Menara KL staff, many jumpers and I were all quite shocked a year ago to see him promoting her as a highly skilled and experienced jumper that would lead his technical team. To us she stood out as a jumper having substandard skills and liked to throw tantrums. I often had to babysit her at the edge of a building. With a lack of skills she was not able to fulfil the position until she could find a puppy dog to help her.

What! The technical team has no idea about the locations that they expect jumpers to pay to be taken to or even know if they are real.
What are you going to do? Take jumpers to the dense Borneo jungle and tell jumpers to see if they can find a cliff to jump off. You are actually charging people to do this?

Jumpers paying to come to an event expect a bit more than that.
Do you really have any idea about the eventyou are promoting? Or do you rely on what Menara KL tell you?
I suggest you stop being a puppy dog and shape the event into something acceptable.

On the schedule I see on the Menara KL website I count maybe one extra day.
Take away the reduced time each day and I would say there is maybe less jumping. And then there are the other issues that you will encounter which will reduce jumping further.

Shown me a final schedule and I will tell you what is real and what is not.

Does everyone get to jump Menara Telekom Malaysia?
With the much extended time of the event this year, why is the Menara Telekom Malaysia still scheduled for the same day as when jumping is taking place at KL Tower?

You may want to check of all the sites to see how many new wires or other obstacles have been installed in the landing areas that make them much more difficult or unjumpable.

Expanded details can be found here...

http://www.menarakl.com.my/Basejump2008/Event.html

lets hope noone gets hurt....

Hi Gary,

Thanks for your advised pertaining to this event. Actually, the special jump at Mulu Caves will not happen this year, due to technical problem..Anyway, we not promising but we really trying to minimize the full tour jumper's expenses. Besides that, more of the jump fall during weekend as we get a good response from State Government which is we do cooperation with them.

Regards to wave the jumper's fees, lwt us discuss about this more further. Hope you can join this year event as usual.

if there any inquiries, feel free to email to sofia@menarakl.com.my

I also attach the event schedule for your kind reference.

regards,
sophia

sophia, the gap between the building in Kuching and the one in Kota Kinabalu is huge. Is one day of jumping from a 280 foot building worth all the extra travel plus travel time room and board? 280 feet isn't exactly the most desired altitude for building jumps with the possibility of wind and rain.

Kota Kinabalu is great, and so are the rest of the stops, but The Menara Pelita seems like it's just not worth going to. What is there to do in and around Kuching to make it worth it?

Hello Sophia,

Yes, we have known for over a year that a BASE jumping event cannot happen at Dear Cave in Mulu National Park. I was very surprised to see it advertised on your website.
I did hear that a backup plan was devised to entertain Zul’s demand that a jump must happen in Mulu no matter what. I believe it was to have BASE jumpers skydive into Penan settlement nearby the Mulu Park. Is this still part of your event plan?

While the schedule you provided gives a very basic overview, jumpers would like to see the fine details to get a real idea of what to expect. As you probably know, I was horrified to see Menara KLs version of the fine details of their event last year. We had to reorganise the whole thing (which mostly happened on arrival at each location) so it would be worthwhile for jumpers and so they would get to jump.
I am mainly concerned in your schedule about what happens on the jumping days. The itinerary I see on your website is a good start (although now outdated) but there are several things that need to be fixed up or tweaked. I will discuss these issues with you privately.

It would probably be a good idea to list the actual jump heights on your schedule, not the building heights. Some of the jump heights are much lower.
Actual jump heights are:
Menara Pelita: 86 meters (280 feet)
Menara Tun Mustapha: 108 meters (354 feet)
Menara Alor Setar: 104 meters (340 feet)
Menara Komtar: 210 meters (690 feet)
Menara Kuala Lumpur: 300 meters (986 feet)
Menara Telekom Malaysia: 244 meters (800 feet)

Jumping is only on weekends and jumpers have to fill in a total of 4 weeks in between jumping. Is there anything planned for them to do? Do they have any obligations or should they start looking for their own things to fill in the time and make the trip more worthwhile?


Hmm. I don’t think your technical team or Zul would like that. I would just walk in and take over during the jumping days to ensure things are streamlined to maximise our jumping opportunity during the best possible weather conditions. I would not allow any of the silly and unnecessary things to happen that often inhibit many jumpers from jumping until the weather conditions deteriorate. Your requirements can be met and enhanced without taking away from the jumpers experience.


I am sure you will have it all figured out by the time the event comes around and everyone who is able to go will have a great event. Menara KL staff are doing a good job considering the difficult position you were put in.

Gary

I did not really like Menara Pelita when I first went to test jump it a couple of years ago but last year I came to love it.

It is a much more comfortable jump with the wire removed. In ideal conditions I find it one of the easiest jumps on trip when landing in the big wide and open landing area. When there is some wind it can become a bit tricky though.

If you have the time and the money it is a fun little jump. I also know the nice people in Sarawak Tourism and at Menara Pelita would love to have you there.

As for things to do in Sarawak, I don’t know much. We really enjoyed going to the Orang-utan reserve last year. Jumpers were also taken to a cultural village. You could also fly to the other side of the state and go to Mulu anyway to see Deer cave. Or head to the next location. There are a few interesting adventurous things to do there.


Gary

Hi Sophia,

I intend to be at the KL Tower part of the event this year and have just tracked down the whereabouts of the application process as I have not seen any publicity regarding the "change" in the management of this previously popular event.

The website mentions that the closing date for application will be 25 June as thereafter everyone will be on tour and I assume unable to deal effectively with any subsequent requests. Do you/the organisers intend to have everything "set in stone" by 25 June? I only ask because I have a few questions that aren't covered (as far as I can see) on the Menara website:

1. Where will the KL Tower briefing be held?
2. What time will the meeting be?
3. Are we required to bring anything specific to the briefing?
4. Which hotel will jumpers be accommodated?
5. What does the event entry fee cover?
6. What are the transport arrangements?

These are a few off the top of my head and I only live a few hours away. I'm sure those coming from further afield will have many more details to be clarified.

I used to be in the British Army and spent 2 years based in Brunei. During this time we had the opportunity to visit the Mulu caves. My memory may be slightly blurred by time but there is no way it can be jumped, let alone "jumped in to". I have just finished an extremely well run event - the Little Colorado Canyon Heli boogie - in the US. The organisers, friends of mine, are highly experienced BASE jumpers. What concerns me most about this year's KL event is not a lack of detail on hotel rooms etc but that there isn't that level of BASE specific experience.

It is their first year running it... give them a break... lol

Dude...don't worry about a lack of BASE specific experience as the technical team (Stephan, Amanda and myself) look at the total experience of 2800+ BASE jumps, a lot of organized events and many more intended events!!! BTW that's twice as much as there was in previous years!!!

You should ask those other questions directly to Sophia as we don't have any infos on that too!
And again...Menara KL took the Mulu Caves off the schedule so you don't have to worry about that!!!

I just saw that this posting from 6-11 was in that other thread that has been closed... as I think it is kinda important I just copy and paste it again here!!!



Hi everybody!

If you wanna go to Malaysia this year please register NOW!!!

Please download the attached form, fill it out and send it to us...
If you're from North- or South America please send your form to: Amanda@buildinghype.com
If you're from Asia or Australia please send your form to: Stephan@buildinghype.com
If you're from Europe or Africa please send your form to: Jojo@buildinghype.com

Hope to see you in Malaysia in August...

Even so, it is still Cross posting...

A link would be more in line with the rules though


BTW, I think BAHADUR's questions are relevant and should be answered efficiently as jumpers want to know/ need to know for planning....

I am sure I can give you some answers. Menara KL may currently think differently but what I advise will most likely become reality.

What you must realise first is what you see on their website and other information they provide is mostly just a copy of my website or whatever notes of mine they could find from the past. A lot of what I see is poorly copied outdated information or what I now consider as old ideas. Although I was quite disgusted when they rudely copied my website I do like their enhanced look.
Since the technical team can only respond with “We don’t know”, the event seems based on the information I have made up as I went along in the past (and what I tell them now). I was horrified (and had a good laugh) at some of the original information they had on their site but it has slowly evolved after giving them a few hints. They still have much to fix up.


This was something I made up last year that they have copied with a very wrong date. I did not have time or want to process applications last year while I was actually at the event. They more likely mean the end of July. In reality, if they are desperate for people they will take applications for KL Tower up until the event starts there.
Nothing will be set in stone. Planning is done in Malaysia at the last minute. The technical team keep saying they have no idea and Menara KL have little idea but they do have my old notes (and some new ones) to try and figure it out. I will try to ensure they have something acceptable in place by the time the event comes around as I would like to see jumps be able to go there and have a wonderful time.


I am sure it will be held at level Megaview 3 of KL Tower.


Well they could set it to a day well before jumpers arrive as they have done in the past but it will be the day before the event. I would say 10am as I dictate every year. This leaves the afternoon free to sort out the many problem that arise for their technical team.
They may tell you different when they get a clue.


What is usually required is money in Malaysian Ringgit to pay for entry fees and a pen to fill out a waiver.


Their website says Istana hotel but I would recommend you organise your own accommodation.
Every year there are major issues with accommodation. Even last year when I got everyone to secure their own accommodation at our selected hotel there was a major problem at the last minute. The hotel moved half of the bookings to another unsatisfactory hotel due to a major air-conditioning fault they had.
With the event on Merdeka weekend the city will be booked out so best get what you want early. It can be difficult to find a suitable room at the last minute. If you are turning up late, call the hotel or they will give away your room. If you are sharing a room with someone who is arriving the day before and they don’t arrive, make sure the hotel is informed before that day ends or they will give away your room. If you are from USA and you arrive a day late because you did not calculate in the time difference, they will give away your room. I give these warnings as many arrived late last year to find their room had been given away. They were charged one nights accommodation and had to find another hotel. Also ensure you personally receive very strong conformation of your hotel booking directly from the hotel and double check the dates, especially if Menara KL organise it for you. I have many stories of various accommodation issues that jumpers have had.
I still recommend the Pacific Regency due to the convenience of being across the road from KL tower and it is a very nice place. There are many cheaper options though.


It allows you to jump. That is it.
You might get a t-shirt too.
It also allows the head of KL Tower to buy his one special female jumper a closet of dresses as he does every year.


Arrange your own. If you are staying at the hotel they use for the event they will organise a series of small shuttle vans to and from the tower. That can get difficult with a small van and 100 jumpers.


While Menara KL and their technical team don’t seem to know very much about their event that they are supposedly organising, I am still happy to provide jumpers with enough information so they can go there and jump and have a good time. It is a wonderful place to jump. The people are friendly and really welcome us there. I know Menara KL eventually get it sorted out at the last minute as usual.

I am sure people will treat them with the same high level of respect that they treat the BASE jumping community.

Well I don’t see a lot of organising of this event.
Just “Contact us if you want to go”.
And “We don’t know anything. Talk to someone else if you want to know about the event”.

One of your technical team has always been a major worry and concern at the event with her lack of BASE skills required for these buildings. Most highly experienced jumpers that know her will say she has no place organising any BASE event.


Yes, well we all know Menara KL is strongly promoting you to buildings around the world to “organise” events for them. Menara KL are promoting themselves as the world authority of BASE jumping events and expect everyone in the world to look towards them to have building events organised.
I will give you a hint. You have to present something better than the “We are great but we don’t know anything” attitude.
Nevertheless I can still see it all actually happening.


Hahaha. Good one mate. Three people almost, but not quite, have double the experience of one person last year. When you consider that one of those people with their hundreds of BASE jumps has the equivalent skill of some with around 50 BASE jumps, that put’s it closer to three people having the experience of one.
Maybe all 3 of you together can almost total the same amount of jumps during such an event of one organiser that is also dealing with the exhausting task of organising the event as well. Hehehe

I actualy thought you would do much better. I am surprised, 3 people and a team of Menara KL staff to take over the job done by one person and still the only answer you can come up with is “We don’t know anything”. Not going well is it? And only a bit over a month out from the event.


Menara KL knew over a year ago that it was never really going to be on the schedule. It was only taken off when I pushed the issue. Jumpers still want to know if they are going skydiving at Mulu or just hanging around Kuching or doing something else. If you don’t know what is happening and Menara KL don’t know what is happening then they have a lot to worry about. Those going really want to buy their flights now.

The Sarawak government did contact me the other day so I do have a real idea where they are up to.

Still desperate hey?

Nah, I don’t think your message is kinda important at all.
I think the few people that still really want to go are just bypassing registering with you and are talking to people that have a clue and that will help them out.

Jumpers are just not interested in the “We are so great but we have no idea” attitude.
You are not doing much now and I don’t think anyone will take any notice of you at the event either.

Don’t worry, I have most things fixed up for you so most people can go and have a good event. Then you can start singing praises for yourself again.

At least there is one member of the team that is respectable. Stephan is very good and he will fix up what I don’t.

I think Gary has provided solid advice. I have travelled to numerous countries in the "developing" world and would caution people NOT to expect the same level of service, planning, care, etc. that they receive at home. you might still get quality service, but plan on having issues. help yourself by going the extra mile to prevent them. like a jump, do not simply HOPE it will go well...

nothing sucks more than arriving exhausted in a new town, at sunset, and needing to secure a room...

 Hi Bahadur,

We just put 25 June to archive our target, anyway, you may register latest by July. We do put early as we need to arrange the hotel and other matters. All the details are includes in the website. Here i would like to answer your question regards to KL Tower International Jump Malaysia.

1. Where will the KL Tower briefing be held? The technical briefing will be held on 28th August (Thursday) at Mega View, KL Tower. the day before the event day.

2. What time will the meeting be? The technical and inspection meeting will be 9.00am.

3. Are we required to bring anything specific to the briefing? We just need your passport and registration form if you not register yet.

4. Which hotel will jumpers be accommodated? As at now, the jumpers will staying at Istana Hotel which is take about 5 minit to come KL Tower. by the way, we provide transportation to ferry jumpers from hotel to KL Tower.

5. What does the event entry fee cover? we covered jump from 9am-6pm, event T-shirt and limited T-shirt will be given during farewell dinner, Lunch and Hi-Tea,

6. What are the transport arrangements? We will arrange the transportation to ferry jumpers from hotel to KL Tower.

Is there anything need to clarify, please do not hesitate to email me at sofia@menarakl.com.my

Cheers,

Sophia

 
ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!

The organizer understand the time constrains for jumpers (Full Tour). As such we are pleased to inform the jumper can join the tour at any venue and finishing with KL Tour Jump.

We finalized that the cost is follows:

Full Tour - RM 1500
KL Tour - RM 750

* Kuching -->Kedah --> Penang--> KL - RM 1300
* Alor Star --> Penang --> KL - RM 1,000
* Penang --> KL - RM 900

Hope can hear from all of you!

Adios,
Sophia

EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT FROM KL TOWER!!

We realize that information about the 2008 event did not become available to jumpers until June, and this does not give sufficient time for many to book flights to Malaysia, so we are offering some amazing discounts for the Full Jump tour and also for the KL Tower part of the tour.

* For KL Tower only we have reduced the registration fee to RM 500.

** Now for the Full Tour the amazing promotions really take off!
For any qualified jumpers that participate in the Full Tour, KL Tower will pay ALL accommodations (4 Star Hotels) for the entire tour. Yes, that is correct. All your accommodations will be paid for by KL Tower!

Also any side tours during non-jumping days will also be fully paid for including snorkeling on the local islands, river cruise, Langkawi Island visit, farewell dinners and any other non-jumping day tours and events. If that wasn’t enough the price of the Full Tour has also been reduced to RM 1200.

These Full Tour Promotions also apply for joining the tour during any leg of the Full Tour. The discounted prices are as follows:

* Entire Full Tour (RM 1200)
* Kota Kinabalu -->Kedah --> Penang--> KL (RM 1040)
* Alor Star --> Penang --> KL (RM 800)
* Penang --> KL (RM 720)

We still have openings available for the Full Tour so if you are interested and have the qualifications don’t hesitate! This is a great time to visit Malaysia and enjoy some wonderful jumps while touring around the beautiful country.

We look forward to seeing you at the 2008 event and please contact us if you have any questions.

Ja Matta,

Sophia

You sound desperate???? Will you pay for my flights too????

Looks like this years event has 'bad idea' written all over it.

I've been fortunate to attend several fantastic events in KL. This one, as I said in another thread, looks like it may be a major Clusterf#*k.

I'd be there in a flash if I knew that Gary, or someone of his calibre, was running it this year.

Let's hope this is not the last ever base event in KL.

For those going to KL I hope it turns out well for you and look forward to attending again one day.

Sophia,

Has your schedule changed from what was originally published or is there something wrong with this:
Kuching -->Kedah --> Penang--> KL (RM 1040)


Your accommodation offer for the tour is a good start.
I would still like to see a detailed schedule to get an idea of what participants can really expect.


Gary

Honestly, I was thinking this might be a good year to give it a miss to try to help the organizers out.

It sounds like things are coming together slowly with the change in jumping organizers, and that if fewer people came out it might actually be a blessing to the new organizers, who'd be able to work out the kinks and get up to speed with a smaller group, before they tried to move back up to the full size event next year.

I thought the new people were world class and had experiance? please correct me if wrong.

I know they're experienced jumpers.

I do not know what their experience with organizing an event like this is. I'm assuming that if they had done so in the past, that experience would be (a) relatively common knowledge, and (b) announced/explained/advertised by them.

Regardless, anyone taking over a long, complex event like this would likely benefit from some extra time and breathing room to get things rolling smoothly before they're run over by a herd of participants.

kewl beans, that makes sense and is understandable.

They're not going to be run over. The participants just have to show up. They're on their own for the most part anyway so it's no big deal.

The full tour is unlikely to fill up but ya never know. Menara KL has been involved with this event for a little while now so chances are it will sort itself out.

edit: I deleted the part about the hotel. I missed that part in Sophia's message