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Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
This time it was a Sweede for those who is interested in what Nationality the jumper where from!

The jumper is picked up and safe on the ground.

This is the 5. Heli rescue so far in Norway this summer.

1 American Eikesdalen
1 Russian Kjerag
1 French Eikesdalen
1 Norwegian Romsdalen
1 Sweede Eikesdalen

Read about romsdalen in the article section!
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
everybody can make mistake...no matter nationality, glad he`s OKSmile
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
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American
Russian
French

Is this the order in which jumpers of these countries are unable to track? Wink
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Re: [johan420] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
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everybody can make mistake...no matter nationality, glad he`s OK Smile
ya, but seeing as it's in Norway and none of them are Norgies makes one think that maybe people who live there have a little more respect for {healthy fear of} the sites.
Have fun!
~J
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
Was the American a Texan, probably not!!! Texans can track beeeotchs!!! Can't speak for the other 49....
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Re: [Spiderbaby] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
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Was the American a Texan, probably not!!! Texans can track beeeotchs!!! Can't speak for the other 49....

Not with pilot chutes in their hands...








<andrew dice clay voice> OHHHH! </andrew dice clay voice>


luv ya,
pope
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Re: [pope] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
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Was the American a Texan, probably not!!! Texans can track beeeotchs!!! Can't speak for the other 49....

Not with pilot chutes in their hands...








<andrew dice clay voice> OHHHH! </andrew dice clay voice>


luv ya,
pope


HAHAHAHA!!!! Nice.
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POPE's Joke
Nice old Skool Reference

SmileWinkTongue
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Re: [pope] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
Awwww Christ, I was hoping this would go unnoticed by you. So much for hopes.........It's true, I would probably be the only Texan to not clear this ledge. Unless of course the landing area had glass windows, then I would make it to there fer sure. Fucker!
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
2. hand information french jumper!

Jumper did not pass the ledge, do a emergency pull, and ends up in a tree! So now we have 4 jumpers who wanted so bad to pass the ledge, and ends up in a tree! Same scenario, and nothing learned, even the jumpers was told by a local, the history of the ledge!

Before you go to Romsdalen, learn how to track or fly your wingsuit.

YOU DO NOT GET GROUNDRUSH IN BIG CLIFFS.
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
Ahhh so someone else was following in my foot steps.............and hell NO Im not from Texas.

Be careful people, those walls are nothing to fuck with.

How did you like your air taxi ride??
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
We had a norwegian on the ledge yesterday, picked up by heli! Due to eyewitness it looks like a tension knot, or line over. He did not pass the ledge, pulled reasonable high, get oneheading opening, start backing up, in to a spiral! He broke his arm, and misplaced shoulder. He wear no helmet, or any other safety equipment.


1 American Eikesdalen
1 Russian Kjerag
1 French Eikesdalen
1 Norwegian Karlskråtind

New regulations in Romsdalen! All heli rescue have been banned in Troll Wall, so if you get stuck in there, you might stay there for a long time! The ban is for the safety of the rescue people. Troll Wall is very unstable, and big avelances is coming down quite often. And as you all know Troll wall is still Illigal to jump from!

Remember when you hike in good weather at big walls in norway, the weather can change quick, and from warm sunny hiking in shorts, t-shirts, sneaker, to icy cold. Be prepared for staying overnight. Im sure many of you have been sitting on top of Kjerag freezing their tits, and nuts off waiting for the fog to clear! Take care and have a plan!
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
"He wear no helmet, or any other safety equipment."

Was he wearing a parachute? Harden up, Francis...
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Re: [flydive] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
flydive wrote:
"He wear no helmet, or any other safety equipment."

Was he wearing a parachute? Harden up, Francis...

umm isn't that harden 'the fuck' up!?

Harden the fuck Richard-EPE!
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Re: [flydive] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
flydive wrote:
"He wear no helmet, or any other safety equipment."

Was he wearing a parachute? Harden up, Francis...
no he didn`t wear chute...he had line-over on his shoes..Unimpressed
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Re: [havensiangst] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
We have 4 more incidents in Romsdalen since last time, and one was heli rescue.

Incident one: Wingsuit from Bispen, nice flight with high energy, onheading opening, canopie start spinning, and jumper use back riser to make it stop right before landing. Jumper unharmed!

Incident two: Tracking jump from Karlskråtind, opening over the field with a line over! Jumper stear the canopie towards the trees and land. Jumper unharmed!

Incident tree: Tracking jump, normal opening, but strong wind in the tallas. Jumper backing up the tallas and land. Broken arm!

Incident four: Tracking jump strong south east wind, jumpers refer to hard openings. All lines on wright back riser brakes, and he land on 3 riser, some say only 3 cells was presurised. Jumper unharmed. The canopie was old. I would let the jumper him self coment on this incident. Helie rescue

So now we have one flick with tension knot, one troll tension knot, one troll line over, and one old mojo burst all lines on wrigth riser! Non of the jumpers used the mask tape, and at least two of them say it might be the pack job!
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
Maybe someone could post a link to the 'masking tape or not' thread that I remember reading a while back... or did I imagine that... it would be a cool side-discussion here as it's still new info I think... lots of jumpers in Europe do not use any sort of line control when packing slider up.
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Re: [434] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
434 wrote:
So now we have one flick with tension knot, one troll tension knot, one troll line over, and one old mojo burst all lines on wrigth riser! Non of the jumpers used the mask tape, and at least two of them say it might be the pack job!

Add to statistic: one more troll tension knot on a ws jump at ITW, and, yeah, let's start "masking tape" thread.
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Re: [Lee846] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
Lee846 wrote:
Add to statistic: one more troll tension knot on a ws jump at ITW

And even more to the statistics, a finnish jumper possibly had a tension knot which cleared itself after opening on her Troll in LB week or two ago. There is no visual confirmation about tension knot and the jumper didn't realize anything dramatically wrong with the opening but afterwards on next packjob she noticed that she had severe burns on her outermost brakeline above the cascade. There was nothing on the canopy so it was guessed that there could have been a tension kont on the upper control lines that cleared itself on latter stages of the opening.
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Re: [434] Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
OK I'm the lucky Swede

This is what happened:

Jumped a Mojo 260, well used but inspected and in good shape. Bad track (3:rd cliffjump) made me pull high. Got a hard partially opening which tore off off all the lines on the right front riser. The canopy ripped about 1m. Managed with back risers to keep the canopy flying the direction I wanted. 4 cells inflated. Chose to land on the ledge instead of smasching the rock. Landed safe close to some trees. Impossible to get down so we had to call for heli rescue.

This was the third heli rescue on the same spot this year. If you land safe it's impossible to get down without a rope, spoke to the locals in the valley, hopefully they'll put up a fixed rope so you can abseil down.

/Carl
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Re: [cob] Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
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Got a hard partially opening which tore off off all the lines on the right front riser. The canopy ripped about 1m.

Any warning signs on the canopy before the canopy damage? Was it the fabric tearing at the line attachment points, or lines breaking? Stitching, fabric, tape, etc???

Define "well used"???

(or another way of looking at it, in retrospect, were there any warning signs of the pending equipment failure?)
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Re: [tdog] Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
tdog wrote:
Any warning signs on the canopy before the canopy damage? Was it the fabric tearing at the line attachment points, or lines breaking? Stitching, fabric, tape, etc???

Define "well used"???

(or another way of looking at it, in retrospect, were there any warning signs of the pending equipment failure?)

I was a part of this incident. And big parts of the responsibility lies on me. Im the instructor of the jumper and the canopie was mine. We have some factors that affected this happening.

1. Weather
No wind this day. Very strong updraft that gave some of us nice floaty tracks but also very hard openings.

2. Fall speed
Carl is a heavy guy, he falls fast and at this jump my instruction was to "go steep for a while to gain speed in the track", due to floaty position in the last jump. Carl then gave this jump an, about 8-9 second dive before he went into a hard and fast track. Then he pulled. The fall speed was very high.

3. Opening problems
The canopie opened very hard, not slider down, but well hard and also out of seequence, saying that 3 side-cells opened very hard and the rest came later in normal slider up snivel. THis put heavy -snap-force on the right fron rizer, wich in the end caused it to snap.

4. Well used canopie.
This canopie was my old and trusted friend for many years. But its old and WELL used. I have personally made about 830 jumps on this baby for about 9 years. I have made 3 line-changes on the stearing lines, but never on the other lines. The quality of the canopie was defenetly a factor in this matter.


In all, the combination of these factors caused the canopie to breake adn the jumper to end up on the ledge/bolder in the forest, with a lot of luck. His high experience in skydiving and his ability to stay cold and calm helped him to finish the landing in the best way. Also being a hard cunt, helped him not to injure him self on the landing.

Responsibility is mostly mine, letting him use this old rig, though I was jumping it my self only some days earlier.

anyway. thats the story. And yes , there is no way to climb down with out rope and equpment.

/Martin
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Re: [pgpilot] Another landing on the ledge in Eikesdalen!
I had a line over!! slider up jumping in Kualalumpur!! start use mask tape after that....never had line over sins!!! So folks start use mask tape even with slider up jumping!!! I Start base jumping in 1985. Frode J.
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Re: [cob] Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
 
I'm sorry that you were the unlucky jumper (student on top of that) to test and confirm, the hard way, why we retire canopies after half that many jumps. This isn't skydiving, these canopies are the reserve/last chance and should be considered as such.
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Re: [434] Incidents in Romsdalen (Landing on the ledge)
So far this season we had only one Heli rescue, and I know the jumper will come with his own explenation later!

We also had a rescue of a jumper made by locals where the jumper was landing on a ledge, and braking his leg!

We have 3 real close calls on Bispen, and several on gridsetskolten where people just loose their heads!

We had one almost drowning where jumper landing in cold water with wing suit!

Keep focused on staying alive, remember there i is a couple of months to go before the season is over! Statistic the next few months have not been to good for us in Europe! Jumpers starting to get warm, thinking the world is made of rubber, and taking to big risks!

Have a nice Day!

Ups by the way the two jumpers with a rescue was Norwegians Tongue