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It also looks like we're up to 113 now... Frown
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
Good luck with this one! If I was you I would delete the post! Just my two cents!
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Re: [434] New Fatality List
Wow, that's bold. #113 Even bolder. I think the list is highly educational...However for your safety I might call these people:

http://www.usmarshals.gov/witsec/

Good luck.
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
Speaking of 'Pissing on Graves'...

BTW Jaap if your calling the witness protection program like aaron recommended, maybe we could get a group rate? Wink
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Re: [Ghetto] New Fatality List
whoa man, i have a big problem with those plagerised Calvin pissing things. the freaking xtian cross praying ones are even worse.
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Re: [Calvin19] New Fatality List
i knew you would, why do you think I picked that one out of aaaaaallllllll of the other images of somebody pissing on stuff that google came up with? Cool

edit: cross praying ones? huh? that doesnt sound like calvin to me....
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Re: [Ghetto] New Fatality List
the "Xtian prayong calvin" is horrible.

Calvin is to smart to be conned into that kind of moronic nature. i would know.

this is off topic, im done.
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
I find absolutely no humor in including #113 on the list.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
I did laugh at it. For a second Unsure. Then I thought about it, and I argee. I'd rather have no list than that on it.
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Re: [worldsocold] New Fatality List
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i really don't find RIPping/pissin' on #113 or Christians all that funny??? what next JEW'S AND THE STAR OF DAVID. MUSLIM'S AND A PRAYER RUG. goofin' on someone or their religion is one thing but pissin' on it/them is another. ..........................i'm not religous-- but pissin' on some kid prayin' TO A CROSS or pissin' on jimmy H./h.i.d.g.a.f./#113 aint all that funny either.

i'm don't agree alot with what JIMMY H. does or say's but.......com' on guys?!?!?

LATER


later

easy there killer,
i have no problem with peoples personal views of reliegion of anything. -I- was, sarcasticly annoyed that the plagerised calvin charecter had been used in something. this has nothing to do with Jimmy H, I like him. even if i disagree with his opnions sometimes.

Calvin being portrayed as a kid who piss on anything like that is just wrong. its EVEN WORSE for him to be thought of as praying. its just wrong. I ama huge fan Of C+H, and Bill Waterson. and there is a reason he does not sell the rights to Calvin or Hobbes.
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Re: [worldsocold] New Fatality List
the attatchment in my other post was satirical, just to show how the two plagerised calvins is a wrong thing to do, and it does notmake any sense.
one fo those things that rednecks and whoever use to puton their trucks. the morons.
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Re: [worldsocold] New Fatality List
I'm pretty sure that MyTwoCents wasn't placing Jimmy himself on his list as #113, but rather the HIDGAF attitude that jimmy has been known to portray.

My attachment of calvin pissing was meant to signify him pissing on the HIDGAF attitude, not on JimmyH, or on whoever it is that will become #113.

I picked the calvin pissing icon in particular because I knew it would get calvin19's panties in a tight little bunch Wink

I am now getting this creepy feeling that Karma will end up making me become the real #113, just because of that attachment... *shudder*
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I'm pretty sure that MyTwoCents wasn't placing Jimmy himself on his list as #113, but rather the HIDGAF attitude that jimmy has been known to portray.

Actually, I didn't add anything at all. I was just the messenger that posted the link. Doesn't mean it wasn't funny as hell though.

This thread got me thinking though. Is it time we put some black death comedy back into our FJCs? When did all the newschoolers become a bunch of politically correct sissies with their panties in a wad?

The drinking game that Jimmy Halliday suggested sounds like a pretty good time to me. In fact, I think I'm going to try that tonight with extended rules. The winner has to pack the rig, and the loser has to jump it from the gnarliest local object. Preferably in broad daylight.

Losing a friend is a terrible thing. BASE can kill you. Christmas is on December 25th. Wooptiefuckingdo...
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Re: [Calvin19] New Fatality List
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the attatchment in my other post was satirical, just to show how the two plagerised calvins is a wrong thing to do, and it does notmake any sense.
one fo those things that rednecks and whoever use to puton their trucks. the morons.

Speaking of rednecks, anyone for some TruckNuts??Smile
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
Jason, is this because you do not have a sense of humour? I don't think it was meant to be serious, it was a joke and it was friggin funny!

Holly, don't take it toooo seriously, again, I don't think it was going to be left there and it was funny, a joke and quite fitting at the time!

I dare say that those few on the list I know would have chuckled and probably still are....

TwoCents hit it on the head, what happened to the fun?!

When did BASE jumpers get to be whiny wuffos on par with skydivers??!! Yes, I still skydive but seriously.

Now everyone try with me.................HAHAHAHAHAHA

Carry on.....
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
Actually, it's the old schoolers that don't like the present format of the fatality list. I count 15, 17, and 25 years in the sport for the most outspoken opponents. Or are you talking about another group of politically correct sissies?


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When did all the newschoolers become a bunch of politically correct sissies with their panties in a wad?
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Re: [SabreDave] New Fatality List
I stopped laughing at death after the 2nd BASE fatality I witnessed. No one wants to end up on the BASE fatality list, especially when they're still alive.

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Jason, is this because you do not have a sense of humour?
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
The list should stay for many reasons in my opinion, but this post should not have been posted, and it show how tasteless some people are. It is the posters responsibillity, and he can not say he is only the messenger!
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I stopped laughing at death after the 2nd BASE fatality I witnessed. No one wants to end up on the BASE fatality list, especially when they're still alive.

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Jason, is this because you do not have a sense of humour?

OK, fair enough. I know from personal experience what it is like to watch someone you love die from high speed impact with the earth and yes it does suck the proverbial goat's ass but I still choose to laugh. It is your right to not find it funny but for me it's the old laugh or cry thing. I have cried and I am done with that part (almost) so I choose to laugh. It wasn't a person they put there it was an acronym.

More than a few thought it was Jimmy on Holliday but #113 was just in reference to the HIDGAF attitude he promotes. I guess as usual, some will see humour and some will see bad juju.

Peace out Jason and I am sorry you have have been witness to that twice! It is the very unfortunate side of what BASE is as you are obviously aware of.

If I crater in, I truly hope when my friends have done some crying that they can then laugh about it, about me, about who I was.

I still have some internal struggle with the knowledge that BASE is something where I have and will continue to meet the coolest, friendliest, most life-loving, honest and open people around. Many jumpers that I have met made an impact on my life and i know that death will continue to snatch them away, sucks ass but I/we must try to accept that or it will crush our souls and maybe our sense of humour.....
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
You know what black humor is??

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It also looks like we're up to 113 now... Frown

if you´ll be #113

RIP
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Re: [aaron111533] New Fatality List
the fatality list is exactly like the incident forum. meant to be a reminder and learned from. if you don't like it don't read it. if you read through these forums you would think this was the sport of arguements.

fuck base jumpers whine a lot.
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Re: [Faber] New Fatality List
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You know what black humor is??

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It also looks like we're up to 113 now... Frown

if you´ll be #113

RIP

HAHAHAHA good one!! Glad to see you are getting into the spirit!Tongue
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Re: [SabreDave] New Fatality List
SabreDave,

I agree with much of what you write. The BASE community is amazing and my best friends are all jumpers from around the world. Heck, I just flew to Kansas City last month to visit Donk, yet, I might balk at driving 5 miles down the road to visit a local non-jumper friend. And if I burn in, I'd rather see everyone celebrate my life rather than my death as well. I do see where most people find humor in putting Jimmy's HIDGAF as #113, but we've had time to laugh and now I'm glad the entry is gone.

Many people struggle with the risk of BASE jumping and whether or not to participate. After 15 years, I still struggle with this as well since a serious injury or death would greatly affect my family (wife and two kids now). But I continue to jump because it's in my blood.

We might not all agree with each other, but we are all BASE jumpers. I'm happy to jump with any one of you because we all share a very common bond.

EDIT: Group hug, anyone?Smile
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Re: [434] New Fatality List
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It is the posters responsibillity, and he can not say he is only the messenger!

Oh, I don't mean to wash my hands clean. That's why I pointed out that I thought it was pretty darn funny.

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...if you´ll be #113

That would be pretty ironic, I agree. And if that were to happen, I hope you'll all have a good laugh over it.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
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I do see where most people find humor in putting Jimmy as #113.

Wait a second! Nobody put Jimmy up as 113. The author put the HIDGAF acronym up as a fatality. That's a very different thing.
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
instead of flying free brother ill write HIDGAF,but only if you nail it to 113
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Re: [Faber] New Fatality List
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Instead of flying free brother I'll write HIDGAF, but only if you nail it to 113.

I'll try my best, my friend! Laugh
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
Yep, my bad. I changed the original post. But Jimmy's name was in the description and I doubt anyone wants their name on that list while they're alive, joke or not.


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Wait a second! Nobody put Jimmy up as 113.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
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Actually, it's the old schoolers that don't like the present format of the fatality list. I count 15, 17, and 25 years in the sport for the most outspoken opponents.

I don't think it's really an issue of old v. new. This appears to be an issue that doesn't really split that way. Avery, Jason, Jimmy, Clair--full spread of BASE "ages" there. What about Rick, Nick, myself, and Ether? Again a pretty full spread.

I also think it's a bit disingenuous to suggest that Jimmy has been BASE jumping for that long. He did one jump a long time ago, then started actually BASE jumping much more recently. He posted the story to this forum, if you want to search for it.
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Re: [TomAiello] New Fatality List
You're right, BASE age doesn't really matter. Someone please tell that to MyTwoCents, who originally attempted to correlate BASE experience to BFL opposition.

Gotta run, cya.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
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EDIT: Group hug, anyone? Smile

I'll take some of that.Smile
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
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You're right, BASE age doesn't really matter. Someone please tell that to MyTwoCents, who originally attempted to correlate BASE experience to BFL opposition.

Can you point out where I claimed such a correlation exists? I did, however, say a correlation exists between the new-school attitude and our fading sense of black death comedy. I'll admit that it appears to be less about age, but more a general perception about the sport.
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Re: [TomAiello] New Fatality List
yeah I did one jump with Seth Blake when I was 18 in 91.

I didn't actively begin to jump until 2000 or 2001. I give myself about 6 or 7 years of real BASE experience.

However my father jumped quite a bit with Mike Alderman in '90 and '91, and his adventures with Mike left him stranded with a broken back to fend for himself throughout the night in the bottom of a canyon in Arizona.
The canyon floor is at like 6,000' and it was mid-November. My father should have died.

Anyway, I took no offense at the HIDGAF and my name on the NWBFL, but it's really not funny and it can't be justified with references to dark humor.

I know that Clair is often accused of being immature, but when it comes to BASE jumpers dealing with death in a respectul way that does the sport and the deceased justice, I see a lot more immaturity than what my wife has displayed.

Like Jason, I don't laugh at death.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
Heck with group hugs Jason, how bout some group sex! That would really settle me down better. I think weve moved beyond hugs here. IMO.
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Re: [Spiderbaby] New Fatality List
aww, now that'll make it all better! c'mere hunny...
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Re: [Ghetto] New Fatality List
im still scared of crotch crickets. no group BASE jumper orgy sex for me. ill stick with college girls.
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Re: [Spiderbaby] New Fatality List
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Heck with group hugs Jason, how bout some group sex! ...

Make it a group scat party and i'm in! Tongue


Black humor rocks. The List is (was) a good thing. Both should remain in BASE
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Re: [Carpediem] New Fatality List
I am iffy about black humor.

I would want people to laugh and make fun of me, but it scares me to talk in a jokeing way about my departed freinds.
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Re: [base428] New Fatality List
Actually, it's the old schoolers that don't like the present format of the fatality list. I count 15, 17, and 25 years in the sport for the most outspoken opponents.
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In that case I have to add my name to the List's supporters. I remember reading or hearing about most of these fatalities when they happened, but they make much more sense in a list where you can view trends, etc. rather than hearing about it and then forgetting a month or a year down the road.

Skypuppy BASE 92
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Re: [MyTwoCents] New Fatality List
DW would be turning over in his grave (he has lots of them - he's everywhere Wink), if he was listening in on this one.

Death sucks.

Losing friends sucks.

BUT,

The list is here to stay whether people like it or not. All you (or a media person, or whatever other reason you have against the list) has to do is spend five minutes on Google and you will find reports on most of the BASE fatalities. As you would road accidents, as you would aviation accidents, as you would cancer vitims, as . . . .

Look at your local paper, there is a "death section" announcing deaths in there.

Look at the news, death notices EVERY day.

Look at the papers, death, death, and . . . . .

Look at religions, some celebrate death and life thereafter.

I know death sucks, I have had to deal with it on a very personal level many times - both inside and out of the sport.

But the fact remains, and I repeat, I / YOU / WE ALL have two choices:

1 - Deal With It

2 - Don't Deal With It.

1 shows a great maturity and acceptance that life brings death. It also brings both sadness and sanity.
2 shows potential custom on someone's couch at $250 per hour.

Whether Nick hosts it or not, the list is here to stay. If you don't like it, don't read it.

p.s. there is value in gathering data. SPC. Systems and process improvements. Education. It adds meat to the information relayed to those that are learning. Remember that it easier and more likely for a normal person to absorb and remember information if more senses and feelings are affected by the information.

Yes, it is sad for those loved ones left behind. Yes, it can be difficult / depressing to look at your friends on the list, but the information has value.
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Re: [TVPB] New Fatality List
agreed
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Re: [jimmyh] New Fatality List
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Like Jason, I don't laugh at death.


Amen