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The ban free forum sponsored by nitro rigging llc is up at http://www.egwingsuits.com/forum/index.php nick welcomes everyone
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Re: [leroydb] New Forum
I'm In . . . http://www.egwingsuits.com/.../index.php?topic=3.0
NickD
BASE 194
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But... but... we were just getting ready to buy a banner ad. The pictures are taken we're just waiting for the photagrapher to burn them to disk. It's gona be a cool ad. Where is every one? Hello... Is there any body out there?
Lee
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this isnt a sticky yet?
I see this isn't a sticky yet? where is everyone, at the new forum?
Re: [tomisgay] New Forum
It sucks! A couple of yanks who can't get over themselves and go on and on with toilet humor.
Great!
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It sucks!
A couple of yanks who can't get over themselves and go on and on with toilet humor.
Great!
my friend...this is the place to be..this is the place where all tha hunks go..
Re: [pocbase] New Forum
sure like this place with all the virtual base gods wannabes is any better. WOW!
Re: [tomisgay] New Forum
so........ why aren't you guys there? that's where all the true BASE gods are isn't it?
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that place kicks some asses!
from 321CYA on a different thread:
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The general name for people involved in the sports that you mentioned (and many more) is 'adrenaline junkie(s)'. Search that in Wikipedia and this is what you get:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenaline_junkie
I think these words say it all:
"Originally, it was used to describe argumentative people who deliberately (consciously or unconsciously) find excuses to explode in order to get an adrenaline fix. After the adrenaline rush wears off, they become agitated, which causes them to seek another reason to explode to get another fix. This mode of receiving a fix is deemed just as addictive as a recreational drug (such as cocaine), but perhaps more harmful as it negatively involves other people."
J.
you seem to be aggitated, as indicated by your user name. do you ever tire of being a victim?
Re: [wwarped] New Forum
I think that a ban free forum is much more atune to Base Jumping. People do whatever they want in Base; personal expression is a big part of that. Skydiving has tons of rules; Base does not. A forum should follow that trend.
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I think that a ban free forum is much more atune to Base Jumping. People do whatever they want in Base; personal expression is a big part of that. Skydiving has tons of rules; Base does not. A forum should follow that trend.
True, but is also appears that people choose who they will or will not BASE jump with and thus having multiple forums allows the people to choose one that contains other people that share common attributes.
Re: [cessna54tango] New Forum
pretty kick ass forum. No banning and biases (we all know what I mean). in reality, why are a bunch of base jumpers on a skydiving forum...ruled through dictatorship......doesn't make sense!
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pretty kick ass forum.
Sure, for ten year olds..
Homoerotic humour kind of gets old after a while though.
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No banning and biases (we all know what I mean).
Call me a n00b, but I haven't seen any moderator actions that weren't justified... Personal attacks and naming of sites is just plain uncool.
Personally, if stuff is happening that you're having issue with, I'd rather that it be talked about directly rather than sly and vague references be made.
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pretty kick ass forum. No banning and biases (we all know what I mean).
in reality, why are a bunch of base jumpers on a skydiving forum...ruled through dictatorship......doesn't make sense!
SO WTF are you still doing here?? I love it when a "new" forum for BASE comes up or when out of nowhere "Blinc is on fire".
Yet, seems lots of people keep coming back here to tell the rest of us how good it is.............
If it really is that good, why keep coming back??
I know you won't answer because you will be too dedicated to the new "kick ass" forum.
Thanks for coming.
Re: [cessna54tango] New Forum
A "ban free" forum. That's awesome! I just wish this here forum can someday be as cool as that one... 
Here are the Rules from this new bastion of free speech: (Read them there)
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You mean to tell me all I need to do is lodge a "formal complaint" about somebody and you will actually share that person's identity and private information with me?
Honestly though, good luck guys - it's hard work but fun to run an online community, whether you're homophobic or not!
Re: [sangiro] New Forum
Wow sangiro, you actually took time to check it out! It must be really getting under your skin for you to use up so much of your precious time! And by the way, no personal information is required to register unless you volunteer it. But fuck it, let’s see how many people Nick is going to ban just because of free speech, something you probably have no fucking clue about being from the part of the world you are.
Oh, I tried to PM the tomisgay guy but I could not. I guess he got banned already…any particular reason for that?
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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...I tried to PM the tomisgay guy but I could not. I guess he got banned already…any particular reason for that?
Um, because he's you?
Nick, you have your own forum now. Why don't you go play there?
Re: [TomAiello] New Forum
So if you are so certain I am Nick, why in the fuck I am still allowed to post?
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But fuck it, let’s see how many people Nick is going to ban just because of free speech, something you probably have no fucking clue about being from the part of the world you are.
Dude, you're a scream!
Nelson is actually a white guy with shoe polish on; Evita is a gay guy who dresses up like a chick and wants to be president (oh wait hang on that's true).
No free speech in South Africa; That's funny!
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That forum have given me some good laught`s...not much serious speechs, but good times good times..
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Hey Nick,
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Wow sangiro, you actually took time to check it out!
Oh absolutely - and I'm going to keep going back to monitor the explosive growth over there. Wouldn't want to miss it for the world!
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Oh, I tried to PM the tomisgay guy but I could not. I guess he got banned already…any particular reason for that?
You tried to PM yourself? What's up with that man?
How many people are you going to pretend to actually be? The number of times you have come on here with 2 or 3 usernames at the same time, just to have conversations with yourself and agree with your own alter egos and imaginary friends is a little sad.
I'm glad you have your own forum now. You can register as many usernames as you want on there and start your own choir.
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something you probably have no fucking clue about being from the part of the world you are.
What is this "free speech" you speak of?
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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So if you are so certain I am Nick, why in the fuck I am still allowed to post?
Because if you give it a little time (on your new forum of course) you will learn that from time to time you encounter individuals who are so blinded by their own BS that you should allow them a little room to run... even if just for a day or two. They end up exposing much more about themselves, about who and what they are, than anything else.
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They end up exposing much more about themselves, about who and what they are, than anything else
Wow. I’m shocked! I guess you and virtual BASE god tom suffer from the same delusion: You both believe that the virtual world is actually for real!
Truth to be told, having not met you I have no idea who the fuck you are regardless this freak show you have created/are dictating.
But in a twisted way, I’m kind of glad you think I am Nick.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
>>You both believe that the virtual world is actually for real!<< I'm real.
I know Tom is real.
I'm pretty sure Sangiro is real.
The only un-real thing is you.
NickD
BASE 194
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I'm real.
I know Tom is real.
I'm pretty sure Sangiro is real.
interesting topic.
perception tends to be reality. each and every one of us creates the world we live in. our views tend to filter out some information and emphasize others.
when anyone is in love, they tend NOT to see their partner's flaws (they discover them later...)
if you think the world treats you in a hostile manner, you tend to respond the same. this ensures the world DOES treat you with hostility.
oh, and for some, dreams are more vivid than "reality." they prefer them.
at the new forum, people can create whatever reality they choose. just because the internet is virtual, does not mean it is NOT real...
but people are free to believe whatever.
we all get to create our own world...
Re: [justadude] New Forum
you can also tak sombody else identity who themself is not real. wat deos it make you (me) then?
litle pic just for you justadude
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Now Borat that's funny! But given the time you spent on it I wonder who the geek is
Re: [justadude] New Forum
Dude, if it sucks so bad here, why DO you keep coming here?! Seriously, why? And yes, it is the virtual world and people frequently adopt online personalities that do not corelate with their real personalities, but that does not mean that you can't tell ANYTHING about people from what they post online. Like in your case, maybe I can't tell much about what you are really like overall, but the fact the you keep coming back here and creating new IDs and just can't seem to let go of something you continually insist sucks DOES tell me one thing about you for sure--YOU are fucking OBSESSED with this place. And each time you come back here to stir the pot just further confirms that. Let it go, dude, LET IT GO.
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Dude, if it sucks so bad here, why DO you keep coming here?! ... YOU are fucking OBSESSED with this place. And each time you come back here to stir the pot just further confirms that. Let it go, dude, LET IT GO.
I went through something very similar several years ago, but not with an internet forum (it was a political party, actually..) -- I felt that I had gone through such an awful experience, taken so much abuse, that even after I had "left" I kept showing up at subsequent events to gloat and cause misery (look up "schadenfreude": very apropos). I eventually realized that I was essentially grieving over the loss of something that was important to me -- as soon as I realized this, I was able to deal with it and move on, without having to lash out at those I felt were responsible.
It takes time though, but correctly identifying the problem puts one well on the way to being able to heal.
<removes psychotherapist hat..>
Re: [Ether] New Forum
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Call me a n00b, but I haven't seen any moderator actions that weren't justified... Personal attacks and naming of sites is just plain uncool.
Ether: Registered Feb 2, 2007, 4:43 PM.....unfortunately you haven't been around long enough to know what you're talking about.
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Personally, if stuff is happening that you're having issue with, I'd rather that it be talked about directly rather than sly and vague references be made.
Sure....you exercise piece of mind and you get shut down or people start going crazy. In addition, moderators and other moderator disciples will be on your ass.
Take care, jump more, post less!
Re: [justadude] New Forum
Fucking morons... Let me 'splain why we are all here...
Grab the Cheetos
I included and old fav.
Re: [wwarped] New Forum
people do create their own realities for themselves, and they differ greatly between people. being online does alow a false persona to come out, i would know. but lets not get to philosphical here. i dont care what someone posts online, or what i here about people through dz.com, i will still jump with anyone tommorow.
its not like on the night before bridge day these people are pissing on our rigs in the hotel. its just the internet. its just the BASE forums. its amazing how many posts i see with the sig line 'jump more post less' with a sig line like that, why would i see those posts all the time?
Edit:::: well, that is, i will jump with anyone as long as i am not burning something down, or going against the etiquete of BASE jumping. of course.
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Ether: Registered Feb 2, 2007, 4:43 PM.....unfortunately you haven't been around long enough to know what you're talking about.
Take care, jump more, post less!
Ahhh, I see your back!? Just taking a break from the "kick ass" forum?
Now to your most recent..........
So you know how long she may have been lurking here??
And I see you should practice what you preach. Go jump off something instead of posting so much!?!?
Or did I not undertand what you meant by jump more, post less?
Kids these days............
Re: [Calvin19] New Forum
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people do create their own realities for themselves, and they differ greatly between people. being online does alow a false persona to come out, i would know. but lets not get to philosphical here.
false persona?
or simply one they choose not to show in "real" life?
remember, we are all multifaceted beings. we show one facet to co-workers, another to family, yet another to lovers, etc.
instead of "false" persona, maybe I'd find "typically hidden" persona a better fit.
oh, and the obsession with this site implies an addicition to whatever persona they use here. something about this forum is consuming a ton of energy!
Re: [Calvin19] New Forum
Here, it's out; now everybody knows what happened to the imaginary friend you so often mention last summer while you were helping him kit up at the exit. See how many people will want to jump with you now that via the internet your clumsiness has been exposed!
Re: [pocbase] New Forum
I think i get it. your talking about the kid who does all that crazy stuff and no one believes him? i havent seen him in a while. i think he was repressed
Re: [wwarped] New Forum
wwarped, Are you suggesting that people in internet forums are more real and show more of themselves than in their actual lives? You know it’s usually a mistake to take your own introspection and use it as a general guideline.
But if you really want to talk about projecting a false persona, let’s take the moderator of this forum as a prime example.
Tom Aiello is a mediocre BASE jumper at the very best, yet he wants to be known as a BASE authority, even if it’s a virtual one.
Tom Aiello claims to have over 1000 BASE jumps which in all actuality he has less than half that number.
Tom Aiello is oftentimes wrong on technical aspects of the sport and yet he would argue with people with much more knowledge and experience to a point of banning them. Yes my dear friend, Tom Aiello has banned people in the past, and possibly future, not because of juvenile personal attacks, not because of reference to pedophilia, but because those much more informed and educated (in the BASE contest) jumpers just did not agree with him.
What Tom Aiello did though is to win the BASE award for the most hospitalizations and severe injuries sustained while practicing the sport of BASE jumping. Bad luck you might say. Not so my dear virtual BASE analyzers holder of the BASE truth. Tom Aiello once forgot to throw a pilot chute, and twice he showed very poor judgment despite the rightful advices much more experienced jumpers had given him. He refused to listen because Tom in the end always knows best.
Tom Aiello wants to reserve himself a spot in the history of BASE jumping as a BASE authority, as an outstanding BASE jumper. We all know what kind of person Tom Aiello is and what is more pertinent to this discussion, what kind of BASE jumper Tom Aiello is.
So wwarped, if you want to be of some use, please apply your immense training in internet psychology to the dropzone.com Tom Aiello persona.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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Tom Aiello has banned people in the past ... because those much more informed and educated (in the BASE contest) jumpers just did not agree with him.
Citations?
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What Tom Aiello did though is to win the BASE award for the most hospitalizations and severe injuries sustained while practicing the sport of BASE jumping.
I thought John Agnos held that award.
Lots of people have gotten busted up doing BASE (some insist that all those that haven't, will do so in the future). Injuries, on their own, are not the mark of a bad BASE jumper. Nor are fatalities, although there are lessons to be learned from every one of both sorts.
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I don't believe I've ever claimed any particular skill or expertise at BASE jumping. Can you find somewhere that I've (your words) "proclaimed" myself to be a BASE "god" ? It's interesting that this discussion of your forum has come back to a discussion of me personally. I wonder why that is?
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Tom Aiello is oftentimes wrong on technical aspects of the sport and yet he would argue with people with much more knowledge and experience to a point of banning them.
You're more than welcome to point out a technical discussion in which you disagree with me. Then we can discuss that specific technical point, and you, me, and everyone else can decide for themselves what they think.
I strongly disagree with your contention that I've banned people who simply disagree with me on a technical point, and I challenge you to point out any posts where that was the case. Can you?
Again, I find it interesting that you are so obsessed with me. I will, again, point out that your obsession began immediately after a post I made here.
In that post, I analyzed an incident which resulted when you tried to repeat a jump that I had first conceived and performed. Unfortunately, you failed to understand the basic technical points necessary for the performance of the jump (the underlying importance of maintaining line tension during deployments of all kinds, and the importance of practicing the launch to achieve minimal separation during the freefall), and as a result, a serious injury resulted.
I tried very hard not to cast blame, or name names, in that post, and I find it quite indicative of your personality, and your underlying feelings of guilt, that you took it so personally, and began lashing out at me.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again.
Nick, I am not your enemy. You are lashing out at me because you blame yourself for what happened. Let go of that guilt. In BASE, accidents happen. The best thing we can do is to learn from them, and be thankful when those involved are able to recover.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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Are you suggesting that people in internet forums are more real and show more of themselves than in their actual lives?
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Tom Aiello is a mediocre BASE jumper at the very best, yet he wants to be known as a BASE authority, even if it’s a virtual one.
from what I've seen here, Tom would welcome sound advice from others. he appears to object when it can be taken recklessly. one problem is the internet demands general, not specific advice (or at least conservative). if not, facts can be taken entirely out of context, especially when viewed months later.
(edited to add: by general, I mean NOT necessarily geared to an individual. enough information must be included to establish context.)
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Tom Aiello is oftentimes wrong on technical aspects of the sport and yet he would argue with people with much more knowledge and experience to a point of banning them. Yes my dear friend, Tom Aiello has banned people in the past, and possibly future, not because of juvenile personal attacks, not because of reference to pedophilia, but because those much more informed and educated (in the BASE contest) jumpers just did not agree with him.
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So wwarped, if you want to be of some use, please apply your immense training in internet psychology to the dropzone.com Tom Aiello persona.
Tom attempts to help and keep people safe. many things he does appear constructive. as I do not stalk him, he may very well do non-constructive things as well.
how do you plan on being of use?
do you intend to act constructively?
is the signal/noise ratio any better on the new forum?
or does it continue to be a "victim's lounge," full of pissing and moaning?
Re: [TomAiello] New Forum
On a positive note...watching someone with the whole Taxi Driver complex thing has allowed me to learn ad infinitum the proper way to execute a rollover. Without a single lesson!
Re: [TomAiello] New Forum
Tom, You are right there is no contradiction on this site on technical aspects you were completely off.
Remember the thread on slider up jumps with differential stow?
here is the thread name:
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Without looking to Google or other websites, just your knowledge, - who knows what this is?
People, go ahead and do a search on it.
Oh you cannot find it!
Tom Aiello had deleted this thread from the BASE zone to save his own virtual fake reputation.
Here you have it people.
No seaw Tom, I got you covered:
Here is what you said:
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Because there is no tailgate on many slider up packjobs, and line overs have been observed despite the slider. The differential stow, in theory, ought to help the canopy to achieve nose first expansion.
How can anyone who claims to be so technically knowledgeable being completely off on an actually pretty simple rigging task? How can anyone who BASE jumps and TEACHES how to BASE jump not having the common rigging sense not to put slack in the lines during a slider up jumps? This is not even rigging common sense, it is plain and simple common sense.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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here is the thread name:
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Without looking to Google or other websites, just your knowledge, - who knows what this is?
And here is the thread, right there in this forum.
If you want to revive the discussion, you're welcome to do so. In all honesty, I can't really understand the point you are trying to make here, but if you'd like to continue that technical discussion, have at it.
The reason the search function doesn't find this thread is because there was a problem with indexing the forums into the search results that caused search results to be "lost" for all threads (in all forums) between roughly January 17th 2006 and May 26th 2006. This thread was posted on April 27, 2006, which is in the middle of that time period. This is currently the subject of the top thread in the Error and Bug Reports Forum. If you look at the post history for any user, or at the results of any forum search, you will notice that there is a gap during these dates.
If you would like to discuss the search index error, I encourage you to do so in the Error and Bug Reports forum (the active thread is linked above).
Re: [justadude] New Forum
Hadn't this already been covered in a previous outburst of constructive criticism though?
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It constantly amazes me how often individuals feel a need to proclaim judgement on someone else's jumping abilities and talents. There's a significant correlation between negative comments and commnication via internet posts. Many are brave in cyberspace, hiding behind monitors and typing mean things on keyboards, although rarely can they reconcile those hositilities with who they really are.
If you have something to talk to Tom about, perhaps you should do just that, talk to Tom about it, versus ranting on forums. If you don't have something to talk to Tom about, and you spend your time focussing on the scorn you have for him, perhaps you should seek counseling. The animosity you carry around can't be good for your soul.
In general it's surprising how petty people can be, however its even more surprising with those who look over the edge of an object knowing their life may end in the next few seconds can be even more petty than the general populus. The risks of BASE jumping are such that one should feel comfortable with the sum total of their life when they leap forward from the exit point. If you know you may leave all opportunities to reconcile that which is unfinished in your life, perhaps you shouldn't be jumping... perhaps you should be reconciling the things in your life.
...Or perhaps that's a lesson learned only when you've lost someone and come to terms with what that means.
In any case, you may want to consider that the words you speak today are how you will be remembered.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
I'll admit that I have a personal bias on this subject, but I'm more than a little sick of the Tom-bashing, and so I'll step into the fray.
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Tom Aiello wants to reserve himself a spot in the history of BASE jumping as a BASE authority, as an outstanding BASE jumper.
In the four years that Tom and I have been together, I have never heard him claim to be an outstanding BASE jumper. In fact, I've heard him discuss his BASE errors many times with his students and other jumpers. His injury history is no secret and he makes no attempt to hide it--he uses it as a teaching point in hopes of keeping others from making some of the same mistakes. Admitting one's screw-ups and trying to keep them from happening again is certainly better than ignoring or minimizing them, don't you think?
As far as being an "authority", I don't think he'd describe himself as such, but he does take BASE instruction and safety very seriously.
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We all know what kind of person Tom Aiello is and what is more pertinent to this discussion, what kind of BASE jumper Tom Aiello is.
Yes, Nick, I do know what "kind of person" he is. A lot better than you do. He's a good person, a good friend, and an amazing husband and father.
Now please, learn to play nice.
Cheri
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In any case, you may want to consider that the words you speak today are how you will be remembered.
Worth repeating.
Re: [justadude] New Forum
Here's a solution: Fist fight on the parking lot at the bridge (no weapons).
Beat the crap out of each other.
Have a cry, have a laugh.
Go for a beer.
Solved!
Re: [pocbase] New Forum
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Here's a solution:
Fist fight on the parking lot at the bridge (no weapons).
Beat the crap out of each other.
Have a cry, have a laugh.
Go for a beer.
Solved!
HOLA.....i think it`s a good solution! Less is more..
Re: [pocbase] New Forum
do you think the really big dude that turns up to fight tom would actually be the real nick.
Re: [havensiangst] New Forum
Hmmm, depends on the point of view; Less (jumps, beer, etc...) is a bore
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Ok, see what you mean. If there is a difference in size, the bigger guy can only use one arm.
How's that?
The point is not the fight. The point is for Nick or whoever he is to get the rage out, it could be chess for all I care. The point is for him to be able to realize how ridiculous the situation is and be able to laugh about it once he has gotten rid of the rage. Like when a girl you really love dumps you (well I am married now so hopefully that's over); don't stay at home and get all depressed about it; go out and have a beer with your buddies. Whether one believes in God or not, the simple truth is that in the end there is nothing we will take with us. Wether people remember you for 100 000 years or whether you're a nobody, you both end up a small pile of dust, for the rest of time (and that's a long time). There's too little time sit sit and ponder over menial stuff.
Justadude or whoever you are, go to Tom, have a chat, a fight, whatever you want, but be sure to have a beer afterwards because really, all this means absolutely nothing.
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The risks of BASE jumping are such that one should feel comfortable with the sum total of their life when they leap forward from the exit point.
Man, that is it right there - well put Raistlin.
Re: [skreamer] New Forum
"You have given your life to become the person you are today.... was it worth it?"
-Richard Bach,
possibly the best aviation writer of our time. i suggest you all read him at some point. 'Johnothan livingston seagul' and 'illusions' are my favorite, this quote is from 'ONE' (thanks wing warper....)
...my answer has been yes so far...
Re: [pocbase] New Forum
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Here's a solution:
Fist fight on the parking lot at the bridge (no weapons).
Beat the crap out of each other.
Have a cry, have a laugh.
Go for a beer.
Solved!
People these days have no idea how relevant that statement is. It's fantastic therapy.
Re: [SkymonkeyONE] New Forum
I agree. I think it would be great, and really fucking entertaining to pack every BASE jumper in these forums into a big room for a week. and see what happens.
Re: [Calvin19] New Forum
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I agree. I think it would be great, and really fucking entertaining to pack every BASE jumper in these forums into a big room for a week. and see what happens.
I think I hear the beginnings of a reality TV show... somebody call discovery channel!!!!!!
Re: [justadude] New Forum
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Re: [SkyDaemon] New Forum
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The risks of BASE jumping are such that one should feel comfortable with the sum total of their life when they leap forward from the exit point. If you know you may leave all opportunities to reconcile that which is unfinished in your life, perhaps you shouldn't be jumping... perhaps you should be reconciling the things in your life.
(the rest was a great read as well...)
BTW
moderators are human. they will make mistakes. some users will use these mistakes as justification to give moderators grief. I sometimes wonder who would volunteer for such a thankless job. (any moderator)
Tom: thank you for trying to provide some order to this forum.
Sangiro: thank you for giving us this space.
Re: [SkyDaemon] New Forum
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The risks of BASE jumping are such that one should feel comfortable with the sum total of their life when they leap forward from the exit point.
wow. Very apt. cool.
I like it.
_justin
Re: [Ether] New Forum
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Tom Aiello has banned people in the past ... because those much more informed and educated (in the BASE contest) jumpers just did not agree with him.
Citations?
>> Here ya go
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What Tom Aiello did though is to win the BASE award for the most hospitalizations and severe injuries sustained while practicing the sport of BASE jumping.
I thought John Agnos held that award.
>>Nope, but who knows what next year will bring!
Re: [leroydb] New Forum
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Can we make this a sticky at the top? lol
bump, any chance we can make this a sticky?
Re: [laird] New Forum
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a sticky would work great.
so would a browser bookmark!
is it really that difficult?
Re: [laird] New Forum
Why would one forum want to advertize a competing forum? Esp one which was founded upon hatred of this one? Do you see anything hypocritical with this particular request?
-=Raistlin
Re: [SkyDaemon] New Forum
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Why would one forum want to advertize a competing forum? Esp one which was founded upon hatred of this one?
Do you see anything hypocritical with this particular request?
-=Raistlin
It would be benificial. It would be a two fold benifit...
1. People could rant and BS over there without wasting HH's bandwidth (I meant the Vice versa) rant and BS here and techy talks over there.)
2. Not waste Tom A's time... unless you wanted to...
Re: [leroydb] New Forum
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and techy talks over there.
there have been many useful websites containing gobs of useful information. yet there is only 1 sticky thread.
earlier in this thread, Tom listed (and linked) to several other forums.
why not see if the new venue can stand on it's own two feet and earn a respectable reputation? why should it receive special treatment above and beyond other websites? isn't there an older forum that prides itself on more solid technical discussions as well? why not link to it instead?
if the supporters of the new forum can not see these simply, basic facts, what else might they be missing? how else does emotion cloud their logic or muddy their presentations?
for people who prefer the civility of this forum, why not discuss technical issues here? are you suggesting it is NOT possible?
the hostility and rancor displayed at the new forum probably is NOT beneficial to the sport. when non-jumpers visit (lawmakers, law enforcement, familiy members of deceased, etc.) their opinions will be shaped by how we conduct ourselves. the new forum appears to provide a bad first impression.
again, if you support the new forum, fine. bookmark if (or add it to you Favorites...) and enjoy.
Re: [wwarped] New Forum
It was just a thought... no need to get "bent" out of shape. People will post at what ever site they wish. Even this forum, one that came out of a broken promise and was created after a so called "man to man" agreement...
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You never know, but "the hostility and rancor displayed at the new forum" might just save someone's life and or create a new revolutionary technique.
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There is one truth in all of this...
WebSites come and they go.... but only jumping will stand the test of time.
Re: [leroydb] New Forum
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You never know, but "the hostility and rancor displayed at the new forum" might just save someone's life and or create a new revolutionary technique.
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an environment of hostility and rancor tends to make people act defensively. people shut down into a bunker mentality. any element of threat narrows one's perceptual field. such individuals collect much less information, but focus intently on what they do see. they rarely acknowledge another's key points.
an open, supportive mood tends to save lives and be creative. people share ideas and brainstorm. cross pollination helps develop the best ideas. accepting constructive criticism accelerates creativity.
some people thnk they were banned from this forum because of their ideas. from what I witnessed, that is simply a convenient excuse. I've seen people banned for how they expressed their ideas, and how they expressed disagreement.
when people turn defensive, they rarely acknowledge a weakness...
the initial tone of the new forum is common outrage at being banned here. hopefully that is simply a stage that will be outgrown. any sound advice gets buried under the paranoia.
Re: [SkyDaemon] New Forum
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Do you see anything hypocritical with this particular request?
No not really....We use these sites to share information. That has been made more difficult because some really experienced BASE jumpers have been banned from this forum. I'm not alone in wanting there opinions, so to get that now I have to go to another forum. People don't seem to have a problem with mentioning blinc or the aussies site, so whats another forum?
Re: [wwarped] New Forum
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I've seen people banned for how they expressed their ideas, and how they expressed disagreement.
Thats the whole point, you get banned for breaking rules not for the way you share your Ideas. People do infact get banned for things other than rule breaking here that is the problem?
Re: [laird] New Forum
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I've seen people banned for how they expressed their ideas, and how they expressed disagreement.
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Thats the whole point, you get banned for breaking rules
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not for the way you share your Ideas.
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People do infact get banned for things other than rule breaking here
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that is the problem?
the problem I see is those who refuse to deal with reality. this forum has rules. it has succeeded better than what came before. if you do not like it there are plenty of alternative forums. feel free to enjoy them.
you apparently do not like this forum, and continue to continue to complain. why? do you stalk ex-girlfriends as well? my advice is to man up and move on.