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Re: [worldsocold] how much harder is opening on full zp topskin vs. F111 topskin @ terminal v.???
if not vent, ACE might be better with top skin, or not get 260 or 266 ?
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Re: [worldsocold] how much harder is opening on full zp topskin vs. F111 topskin @ terminal v.???
It's noticeable, that's for sure.

If you want to get a real feeling for it, why not borrow a ZP topskin canopy and just do the comparison?
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Re: [worldsocold] how much harder is opening on full zp topskin vs. F111 topskin @ terminal v.???
Why do you want to load the hell out of a 244? Just curious. PM me if you're feeling shy.
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Re: [HydroGuy] how much harder is opening on full zp topskin vs. F111 topskin @ terminal v.???
I have a ZP Ace and a ZP Blackjack. I use the ZP Ace primarily for slider up, and keep the Blackjack for slider down. I have about 185 jumps on a non-ZP Blackjack, so I can offer that for comparison.

The CR Blackjack and Ace are WAY better in my opinion. Not only is the full topskin unnecessary, but it isn't a CR canopy. CR canopies are made by PD, and only the first third are ZP, which makes packing and everything else way easier.

I can't imagine any time when vents/valves are better. If you want to tame the openings, try different nose treatments, and go with a small hole slider, or even a solid slider. I've jumped both terminal, and I would prefer the Blackjack with small hole over the Ace with big hole, and they both rock.

I can't imagine that you're going to do 5-8 terminal jumps in a night, so just take a hard opening on the one a night that you will do, and pull lower...
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Re: [worldsocold] how much harder is opening on full zp topskin vs. F111 topskin @ terminal v.???
I have a ZP topskin FOX with Multi, V-Tec, 5th line

I like it alot,

For terminal & wingsuit jumps I use my large mest slide with just a primary stow. I don't roll my nose I leave it wide open. My openings are possitive but I, like to know my canopy will be there when I ask for it.

Packing a full ZP top skin is not a problem you get used to it very quickly.

I also like the integraty of a single material top skin

It is hard to conpare it to my non ZP canopy
a MOJO as there are so many other difference (vents ect)

Greeny
PM me if you need more