City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
...and the winner is: Jeb Corliss!!! :) Basejumper.com - archive
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Re: [iiro] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
OJ Simpson is the greatest illuminator of the obvious with our legal system. Enough money and anything is solved! Congrats Jeb!!!
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any more details ?
http://www.newsday.com/...=ny-region-apnewyork
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Charges against would-be Empire State Bldg. parachuter dropped
By SAMUEL MAULL
Associated Press Writer
January 17, 2007, 3:13 PM EST
NEW YORK -- A judge Wednesday dismissed a charge against a California man arrested last year while trying to parachute from the Empire State Building's 86th floor observation deck.
State Supreme Court Justice Michael Ambrecht dismissed the indictment against Jebb Corliss, saying his actions on April 27, 2006, did not rise to the level of first-degree reckless endangerment, the crime Corliss was charged with.
That crime requires that a person act when he is aware, but consciously disregards, that his conduct creates a grave risk of death to another person, Ambrecht explained in an eight-page decision.
The prosecution had argued that pedestrians and motorists on the streets below and civilians and security guards on the observation deck were potentially at risk because of Corliss' intended conduct.
"While certainly injury to any of these individuals was a possibility, the evidence failed to establish a grave risk of death to anyone," the judge wrote.
Corliss, 30, of Malibu, Calif., calls himself a professional BASE (bridge, antenna, span, earth) jumper who has made more than 1,000 jumps from bridges, buildings and cliffs in 16 countries in the past eight years. He has said he also likes to swim with sharks for fun and adventure.
He says he has jumped from the Eiffel Tower in France and from the Petronas Towers in Malaysia, reportedly the tallest man-made structures in the world.
A former television show host, Corliss entered the 102-story landmark disguised in a mask and a fat suit, which he removed and revealed a parachute beneath. He put on a helmet with a camera on top so he could document his jump.
Corliss was caught, held and handcuffed to the security fence on the 86th floor by security guards as he climbed over it. The guards cut his parachute off after he said his arms would be torn from his body if his parachute opened.
Corliss' lawyer, Mark Jay Heller, said as he and his client left court that Ambrecht's decision was "a resounding victory." He said the judge noted that Corliss planned carefully and took many safety precautions to minimize the risk of injury to anyone.
Before his arrest, Corliss was host of the Discovery Channel show "Stunt Junkies." The network dropped him after his arrest, saying it was disappointed "at his serious lack of judgment and his reckless behavior."
Corliss did not speak as he left court Wednesday.
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After reading this I went to their myspace page to congradulate Jeb and saw a cool video of Iiro's. Base concepts or something like that. http://www.myspace.com/threetripleseven
There are three videos on the left side. The one in the center is the one I'm talking about.
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... Corliss, 30, of Malibu, Calif., calls himself a professional BASE (bridge, antenna, span, earth) jumper who has made more than 1,000 jumps from bridges, buildings and cliffs in 16 countries in the past eight years. He has said he also likes to swim with sharks for fun and adventure. ...
I like how they throw in the part regarding swimming with sharks.
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... A former television show host, Corliss entered the 102-story landmark disguised in a mask and a fat suit, which he removed and revealed a parachute beneath. He put on a helmet with a camera on top so he could document his jump. ...
Are there any pictures of Jeb Corliss in the mask and fat suit?
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... Before his arrest, Corliss was host of the Discovery Channel show "Stunt Junkies." The network dropped him after his arrest, saying it was disappointed "at his serious lack of judgment and his reckless behavior. ..."
Why didn't he do this as a stunt for "Stunt Junkies"?
Re: [Butters] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
AFAIK The show denied that it had anything to do with them.
Re: [iiro] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
this is a victory for all NYC base jumpers oh wait i mean me
Re: [Butters] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
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Why didn't he do this as a stunt for "Stunt Junkies"?
Maybe he didn't want to work for them anymore and this was his possible way out?
Re: [Butters] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
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Are there any pictures of Jeb Corliss in the mask and fat suit?
I recall seeing some stills taken from a security camera at the time. They were probably on a news site, but I didn't recall where.
Re: [Butters] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
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Are there any pictures of Jeb Corliss in the mask and fat suit?
like this one??
Re: [iiro] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
So when's the counter suit for the distruction of his gear?
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Congratulations Jeb! what a day for BASE in this day and age!
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Nice one Jeb, This is indeed a huge step in the evolution of BASE jumping, hopefully a turning point.
My sincere congratulations - my hat is off to you. Way to go!!!!
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He predicted that the State Legislature would be forced to close this apparent legal loophole and pass a law against jumping off tall buildings and bridges.
Bad bad bad...
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Now that this judge has set precedence what are the chances that this ruling can be applied to the NPS cases? PS. Congrats Jeb
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He predicted that the State Legislature would be forced to close this apparent legal loophole and pass a law against jumping off tall buildings and bridges.
Bad bad bad...
Yes, BASE will now be officially outlawed in NYC, and hundreds of other cities - small and large - will follow suit...because nobody gives a damn what Denver and San Antonio do
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Now that this judge has set precedence what are the chances that this ruling can be applied to the NPS cases?
Zero. Totally different jurisdictions, governing statutes and precedents.
Re: [iiro] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
Jeb, Congrats on the VICTORY!!!! Way to go!!! It'll bring BASE a whole new outlook!!! Glad it all worked out okay!!
CReW Skies,
bubbles
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Congrats Jeb! It's quite comical to see the media get their feathers ruffled over this. I've been getting phone calls and emails from "worried" media people who think that BASE jumping happens all the time in NYC and now we're going to come by the masses to jump there.
Re: [base428] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
Well done to Mr Corliss for getting off .....but what are the wider consequences of this..?
Is this a case of the Law saying:
"..thanks for the heads up guys...we will make sure some specific anti BASE jumping law in place for the next time someone gets pinched doing this..."
How easy would it be in the US to make specific legislation against BASE jumping on a non legal site ( the actual act of BASE jumping ...not the entry) ?
Probably only take a major country to do it for alot of others to follow on with something similar...
Re: [Zoter] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
This could be good or bad... or both. Hopefully no legislation follows this case to shut the door on any future jumps/jumpers. Perhaps we could use the publicity to push for a legal event from a B in the city since for the time being it's not "illegal?"
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Unfortunately, the media is bashing the judge when they should be looking at the prosecutor/DA. They charged Jeb with 1st degree reckless endangerment, which means he knowingly put people's lives in danger. Obviously, Jeb wasn't endangering anyone and the judge understood this. Perhaps if the DA wasn't so aggressive and they charged him with a lesser crime, Jeb would have been guilty. After reading many of the 100+ articles in Google news, I was stunned to see so many negative viewpoints. The media found pleasure in calling Jeb names and bashing the judge.
We've still got a long way to go if BASE jumpers ever want to be "accepted" as anything other than suicidal rejects.
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well Daren I must say im impressed there are laws in some areas that are in place
such as Atlantic city NJ USA has a 25,000 dollar fine for BASE jumping
how ever we just cant stop jumping because were afraid that the MAN will change the laws.
maybe we just shouldn't day blaze in NYC
but i can tell this it makes for great video
I live here and jump here and I haven't noticed anything
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"the people" are lemmings. when one person makes a point to bash someone like this judge, many are quick to follow suit. there could be some new laws, but for the most part i doubt it will happen unless more people are caught there in a high profile. stereotypes and generalizations are what could make or break us. remember when bikers were all hell's angels and bad men. now they're everyone including dentists and bakers.
maybe if people understand it's legitimacy by seeing average to outstanding people of society involved... it could help skew a general opinion.
although, there are a lot of us out there that are just law-breaking junkies.
just a ramble.
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the old double edged sword. if this was felix how many "way to go felix!" posts would there be? i think this blows on many levels. i dont care who the jumper was or how infrequently the object in question is jumped...
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He predicted that the State Legislature would be forced to close this apparent legal loophole and pass a law against jumping off tall buildings and bridges.
“I mean, it’s shocking,” Mr. Heller said. “I would assume that somebody is now going to go to the Legislature and say, ‘Hey, we have a little hole in our book here; we’ve got to plug it up.’ ”
so basically, bandit base is brought into the forefront, media spotlight in nyc for a bit.
make them look like fools and there will be repurcusisons.
glory hounds die whorey old dogs.
Re: [Zoter] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
I got busted for a building strike a few years ago and the charge was reckless endangerment as well. I was found not guilty also. At the time, it was argued in court that there is no specific law against BASE jumping in Colorado, and here 5 years later there still isn't. I don't think Jebs case is going to change the law books in NYC. They caught him, and even though he was found innocent, I think they made thier point. Case closed.
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yah I agree i fnd most BASE jumpers to be paraniod they don't realizethat most people dont even know what base is
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well Daren I must say im impressed
there are laws in some areas that are in place
such as Atlantic city NJ USA has a 25,000 dollar fine for BASE jumping
how ever we just cant stop jumping because were afraid that the MAN will change the laws.
What if there was a legal event organized in Atlantic City, NJ? Would one get charged with the terribly "criminal act of BASE Jumping"... lol
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Congrats Jeb I'm disabled and wont be able to do any more base jumps . I did 7 prior to my swooping mishap and even opened a free standing 430' the night befors my accident. My ? is since the charges were dismissed then discovery should give back your job in my experience since what the judge is saying is you didnt commit the crime then you shouldn't be continued with the punishment of loosing that sweet job you had.Hell I think NYC should be liable in getting you fired for over reacting and making this a media specticle. Sounds like the same kinda of prosecutorial errors like mike nifong in the duke case. You rock dude so please flick one for me. May god always fill your cells brother stay safe
respectfully yours
dave phillips
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loosing that sweet job you had
Have you ever worked for Discovery? His contract might have sucked otherwise he might be fighting for his job back... Hell he might be happy he got out of that job...
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amen.... couldn't agree w/ avenfoto more. thanks a whole shitheap jeb. if there's a base ordinance instilled in nyc.... maybe your parents could pay my fines too next time i'm busted.
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Hey Guys, I've been BASE jumping since New Years 1982. I was also the first Base Jumping Attorney that people use to call at 2:00 AM. I was the first lawyer to beat "Powerless Flight" by the NPS when Smity and I did the train jumps in 1983. I love to get along with the authorities and get legal permits, but we're talking about Buildings. Permits aren't very likely UNLESS people accept that it's not a crime and that is what the Jeb verdict said. What Jeb did in Court was good for this sport. The Court recognized it was not all that dangerous in a way. The Judge said that carefully planned BASE jumjps are not Reckless Endangerment, it only helps. Some fear new laws against jumping, but remember, a Court has already said that the seriousness of reckless endangerment was too serious. Believe me, most States charge "Criminal Tresspass". If it's a construction area, (new building), it can be a felony. Any rulings like the Court in Jeb's case can only help the rest of us since any laws passed will likely be lesser fines due to the ruling. Congratulations Jeb. Let's all use this to try to attract festival legal jumps. Use Kuala Lampur as an example. BASE jumps draw crowds and are safe when planned and legal. This is a great Court Ruling and don't cow down to the fact they may make more serious laws. I don't think they really can since the public would love to watch us. Use the Chambers of Commerce. This may result in easier laws and more legal demo jumps. Rick Harrison
BASE 38
Cliffleaper@aol.com
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If it's a construction area, (new building), it can be a felony.
I'm not a lawyer, nor familiar with some designations for illegal acts, so pardon me for asking; are you implying that trespassing into a construction area is potentially more serious than trespassing into areas of an otherwise public building?
I've stuck mostly to construction sites (cranes and buildings) thinking that it would be easier to get away with than if I were to jump, say, a office building that is in use.
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I am in construction and entering any counstruction site "even if you are building a deck at your house" it is a felony. So be careful.............. Cya
Pauly
Re: [RickHarrison] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
Nice post...i didnt look at it fom that angle Thanks
Re: [MyTwoCents] City of New York vs Jeb Corliss....
Yes, each State has their own laws, but if it is a construction site, trespasing can be a felony like it is in Florida and quite a few others. Tresspassing in an open building is usually a class B misdemeanor meaning you can get a fine between about $500 to $1000 or up to 6 months which they never give, but it all depends on State law. Good thing about buildings under construction is they are usually easier to access to get to the top. Cliffleaper