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I ran into a girl at the local dz in Charleston, other skydivers were giving her tips for the bridge. Does anyone know if she jump?

We pulled her badge Thursday night. Story here:

http://sundaygazettemail.com/section/News/2006102040

http://sundaygazettemail.com/section/News/2006101826 Original story.

Shit, I just hate that malfunction.

so am i understanding her right?? her crazy skydiving malfunction was.... line twists??

i think the staff made the correct decision.

I don't want to get into details, but certain information was brought to our attention and we pulled her badge immediately. She may have had more then 50 jumps, but there were other important factors that forced us to revoke her jumping pass.

NO, IT WAS 9 TANGLED CORDS

but..

"questioned her credentials" did she or did she not have at least 50 jumps?

Doesn't matter, there are more prerequisites then jump numbers and it's a case by case basis. The organizers did fine in her case. Glad they were that smart.

You have a lot of time.

Really? I guess that did not apply in the case of Brian.

Base rigger,

Information was brought to our attention that enabled us to pull the WV girl's badge. No one came to us about Brian, including Jean Boenish who later said he shouldn't have jumped. There were NO red flags. BASE jumping at Bridge Day isn't rocket science.

Sorry, but we don't hold everyone's hand at Bridge Day. We don't pack your chute. We don't know if you lied to us about your experience. Have you ever even been Bridge Day? Are you even a BASE jumper? Why do you hide your name?

Sounds to me you have some guilt to deal with.

Guilt? None.

Your posts suggest otherwise.

But hey you're doing a fine job there mate.

Brian and WV girl are two separate cases...simple as that. There is no guilt in any decision we have made in this process. I feel terrible that Brian's family has to continue to read all the BS that is slung on these boards.

The only thing we're guilty of is, stealing one whole pepperoni pizza and taking it to our room to feed our family.

Jennifer Bell

No shit. One's alive and the other one's dead.

you might go to Hell for that

Now please people cut the crap. Take a week off to breathe, think and stop flinging poo at eachother.

base rigger act like man with small winkie but you make big crime. In Kazakhstan we send to goulag before. i hope american plice read your word and send you to prison. pizza is big monumment in Italy and bring lot of dollars in tourism money. you americans have no respek.

The guilt will come after you get your cranium reshaped!!!!

Seriously though base_rigger, have you ever tried to organise a group of BASE jumpers? Have you ever tried to organise their jumping? Have you ever tried to organise their jumping whlist at the same time trying to keep them safe?

I for one am awaiting your proposed selection and training criteria for event based BASE jumping. The BASE world needs some well thought out guidelines on how events such as Bridge Day should operate and who should be allowed to participate and under what conditions.

The knowledge you impart could be transferred to our cousins in skydiving. Something like Quincy (Rantoul / Whatever its called) would benefit form what I hear.

Well, about 11 months to go til the next one.

I would like to thank you in advance for your contribution and would like to offer assistance should you need it.

Look on the bright side Jason all of this psycho analyzing from a nameless faceless person on the internet is not costing you a thing

Maybe Base Rigger and Mac will voluteer to be Staff next year so they can make sure all the right people jump and dont jump. In fact I say Jason comes up with a new staff position just for them. It will be their job to do make sure every single jumper is properly prepared and trained to jump as well as all their log books filled out and verified by the dzo's they jumped at. Then Saturday in line do another interview of the jumpers to make sure they are prepared for their jump and make a decision wether they should be allowed or pull their permit! Step up to the plate guys and dont hide behnind some stupid message board and the idea oh we just want good discussions and debate. Thats a load of crap.

If Jason really feels he did everything right I wonder why he is thinking about increasing the skydive jumps for next year among other changes.

And by the way, every timeI go to a different DZ I get my licence checked and most of the times my log-book as well (including the WFFC)

Jason stated he had no clue about Brian's experience prior the incident.

That's not true. I had two pieces of that pizza, and I'm not even part of your family.

 
Base jumping is NOT skydiving! Stop confusing the two.

Why do people continue to say that?It has no real meaning.If it does explain it.What do you mean by that?

This is not about BASE vs.SD. It's about common sense.

This has been beaten into the ground, and at this point your personal agenda is so obvious that it's hard to see past it to the actual points that you're trying to make.

You and I have had our share of PM exchanges. You seem intent on going after individuals whom you have disagreements with rather than talking about BASE jumping. You made me a promise about how you plan to conduct yourself on here and on that basis we went forward. You've breached that trust many times now, and your time is running out here. This was the last time.

Willem Grobler

Such stealth.

You don't seem to have much common sense yourself. Quit flinging poo like a spider monkey. Try and give just ONE useful piece of info, a useful suggestion etc......just one.

Is this possible or are you really not capable of anything more than stirring up shit and saying innapropriate things to people who have done a GOOD job??

I look forward to the flow of wisdom from you almighty BASE rigger.....

It's glib yes but it kind of does have a meaning in this context. Base_rigger made the comment that when he goes to any new dropzone he has his logbook and license checked before he is allowed to jump from their planes. In the context he is implying that similar checks could or should be made for jumpers at bridge day and is accusing Jason of failing to vet the applicants closely enough and hence is culpable in Brian's death.

What i believe Rambo is saying is simple. Base jumping in essence is the antithesis of skydiving. It's about personal responsibilty and taking control of your own jumps, making your own analysis of the risks and chosing when and where and how you wish to jump. For sure, BASE jumping isn't about logbooks and licences and permissions and control.

But the come back of course will be that Bridge day IS in fact more to do with skydiving - you book a slot, you pay for a ticket, it's legal, you need permission from the organisers who themselves need permission from the authorities - and less to do with BASE - freedom from authority, freedom from restriction etc.

The come back to that would then be that without some form of control there would be no bridge day, so you're right back where you started, which when push comes to shove is really a debate based on : -

1.HOW FAR SHOULD LEGAL BASE EVENT ORGANISERS GO IN VETTING JUMPERS? which raises the question

2. HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD TO REGULATION DO WE WANT TO GO BEFORE WE SAY ENOUGH? which could then bring about the question

3. DO THESE EVENTS NEGATIVELY IMPACT EVERYDAY STEALTHY BASE BY POPPING US ONTO THE RADAR SCREENS OF THE POWERS THAT BE AND IF SO ARE THEY WORTH IT?

Answers on a post card.

ian

Good call on this one, sounds like she was a retard.

You know I consider you a part of our extended BASE family.

If she has 50 something jumps and calls line twists a mal I think it was a good call

Ok then Jason will be looking forward to you being on staff making sure each and every jumper is qualified and prepared properly to jump. That is great. I know Jason needs the help!

About 50 jumps in the last year as a starting point?

And maybe at least 200 jumps total?

I've heard this comment several times and it seems pretty simple to me but I'm a BASE jumper and a Skydiver. The closest resemblence in skydiving is a balloon jump. The landing area is not a cleared area with wind indicators and a pre-planned landing pattern. You look from altitude for a reasonable place to land, exit, and deal with the situation. However, you can wait a bit and find a more appropriate place if you'd like. With BASE you pik the exit point and then determine how best to land. You can choose to not jump, but you can't wait a bit and hope the landing area looks better.

Secondly, even from high altititude jumps like Norway and such. I step over the edge on skydives pulling in the 1500' range frequently. Here again I have a known landing area and the only thing that makes a jump like that similar to a BASE jump is a malfunction that puts you at a different altitude and different position in space than you intended. At BD the object is fairly tall, but you're not pulling at that altitude. You're actually waiting until around 400-600 feet which is nothing like a skydive. However you are landing in a predefined landing area with a wind indicator. How many people actually hit that landing area? How many times have there been chase boats in the landing area of your local DZ?

Third is the redundancy. There is very little opportunity for redundant system in BASE. If your packing a BASE canopy and you don't feeel right about the pack job, you repack it. I can't count the number of times I've put my skydiving canopy in the bag sloppy and hoped for the best knowing I had a reserve and the altitude to use it if I needed it.

There are other things, but these three I believe should clarify it for most.

Do you have a point? Or are you simply here to snipe at others?

-=Raistlin

Bolding mine:


I think this statement definitely prompted investigation.

In Skydiving, one chooses the "jump".
In BASE, the "jump" chooses you.
take care,
space

>>Why do people continue to say that?It has no real meaning.If it does explain it.What do you mean by that?<<

Hi Spence,

I read about your first trip to Bridge Day this year, congratulations!

However, the above illustrates a serious lack of BASE jumping knowledge. Or you like being a ball buster, I'm not sure which?

If that was your one and only BASE jump, than fine. Now you came down to the BASE zone and spout off for the rest of your life. But, if you want to continue and progress you need to start doing your homework.

I'm a PM away and I'm here for you, brother . . .

NickD
BASE 194

Of which, the 1st step is learning to snort salt up your nose and squeeze lemon juice in your eye without flinching.

They can't print anything in the paper that's not true, right?


I can't believe experienced people here are judging her or calling her a retard based on what the media quoted her as saying. That sounds more like a wuffo reporter making up a story than an actual quote from someone with 50 jumps.

I'm sure they had a good reason for not letting her jump, but I doubt if she really said that shit about a malfunction with 9 tangled cords...

We've all seen reporters misquote people.

base rigger,
please post your name. & location.
there are plenty of us that would like to know it.

I think your right base rigger how did u gety to be so smart your almost as smartas my dog's duddy

almost as smelly?

Cover your own action. 99.9% of the time if you die doing any of this human flight stuff, its on you. Its not the packer, manufacture, weather, organizer, ...

"Just cover your own action"
- Hank Bungay

>>>We've all seen reporters misquote people.
~ Which is why we don't talk to them. 50 jumps+ talking to the media=
just what needed to happen.
~J

I dont understand what she (wv) is getting a bad rap about ????
That sounds exactly like someone with low #'s of skydives talking about a first malfunction. I remember back when I was doing SL for the first time and getting drilled with the skydive malfunction Flash-Cards along with being in a hanging harness. There was one card with 'Line Twists' with the Slider up above the line twists. to identify as 'malfunction' . Nothing that is stated in that paragraph sound wrong or out of the ordinary.
She got line twists. Started to freak out a little and looked for her Cutaway Handle. Assessed her situation and probably decided that she had the altitude to try to correct the malfunction. Pulled her shit together and kicked out without chopping. Then went back to pack and skydive some more.

I dont get what this has to do with getting kicked out of BD ???
.

Ray, my theory is that it's the time of year when things slow down, so everybody has nothing better to do than make a mountain of a molehill and drag out silly dead-end topics on the internet. ??

It wasn't calling line twists a mal, it was her description: "malfunction with the tangled cords" that caught my attention.

Of course this is assuming she was quoted correctly.

maybe she realized that a whuffo reading "i had 6 linetwists, all the way down to the risers, so I checked my altimeter and located my handles. I was above my hard deck so I had some time to try to kick out of the twists"

...might not understand what she meant. She may have just been dumbing it down for the public.

If it's suspected that she fudged her log book to meet the requirements, then thats another issue.

I wish that I knew why I got "canned". Many people say different things. The only thing I have heard from Jason was that some one told him that I had to repeat an AFF jump. But yet, two phone calls and an e-mail still no answers. Hummm something is not right!!!

If Jason want to keep this private, he should have kept his mouth shut, he went to media about this not me. Many people have questions....but still no answers. He should of never given me permission in the first place.

I was misqouted in the news paper, big shock.

I will skydive until my ear gives out, and I will base jump until I die. I am not a perfect person, I am human.

Joy

your profile says 47 jumps. for bd 06 you needed 50. there will always be next year. or twin falls.

Please try not to die on a skydive or BASE jump...

Apex BASE has a minimum of 150 skydives allowed to rent gear. Did you attempt to rent gear from them? How many skydives did you tell them you had?

 there will always be next year
I will not be able to jump next year, or any more years on bd. My ears have taken a turn for the worse. I am okay with being deaf, but the part of not being able to skydive kills me inside.

Why can't you skydive?
A buddy is just about completely deaf and is a senior rigger skydiver BASE jumper. If it's a balance thing, he has managed to compensate for all that.

FYI, there is at least one BASE jumper that I know of who is deaf, as he was borne deaf.

I also know of several blind skydivers and I heard of one of them jumping the popular bridge out west.

I don't think your disability should have any bearings to become an accomplshed skydiver and/or BASE jumper.

Jimmy P from Apex trained at leats one deaf guy. I'd suggest to get in contact with him when you have the sufficient skydiving background.

And as for your rejection...yes it'd be nice to see Jason's point on the issue. I really hope your hearing was not the reason.

You know there's more to it than that. Answer Tom's questions.

I know of one rock solid BASE jumper who is deaf. A loss of hearing shouldn't keep you from BASE jumping or skydiving. Good luck and I hope to see you at Bridge Day next year.

You lied about your experience to rent gear from Apex. You told Apex that you had 155 jumps and you told us you had 50+. How can I trust that you met OUR requirements if you're lying to others? Apex would have pulled your gear if I hadn't pulled your badge. I already explained why you got "canned" Thursday on the phone and Friday in person, so why are you asking again?


This is first time I heard that one. But everytime you make up a new excuse for having your jump pass revoked, it further strengthens our decision.


I have received ZERO calls and ZERO emails from you since Bridge Day. Phone number is 304-203-8500 and email is: jbell(AT)vertical-visions(DOT)com.


Wrong. You went to the media, and then when you couldn't jump, the AP reporter that was following your progress called me. I simply told the reporter that we questioned your credentials and nothing else. But if you want to hash it out here, I can accommodate you. I don't approach the media about issues like this, sorry.

And he now has about 15 skydives working on his A license. So I'm not sure what the problem is?

So I guess he would not be allowed to jump at BD!

i know one bad ass base jumper who just so happens to be def and i know he wont rat me out if we get nicked and i used to do 100way speed comps "thats rw stuff " with a def guy and he kicked ass

that jumper is a skydiver. the post did not imply he even wanted to BASE jump.

care to keep the thread on-topic?

No he is a BASE jumper (I think about 200 jumps). He only has 15 skydives. Get your facts straight.

>>I wish that I knew why I got "canned". <<

Joy,

Let's try this. At this point in your jumping career the BASE equipment manufacturers, Apex in particular, are just abstract businesses (read people) that mean little or nothing to you. But I can assure you they are "real" folks who hurt every time we suffer a BASE fatality. They are also people who put everything, their money, their time, and their family futures on the line to operate a business that is fraught with legal risk.

And they all have the same nightmare. Some morning a lawyer is going to knock on their door and everything is going to be gone.

However, the BASE community is nothing if not forgiving. We are especially tolerant of lapses in judgment early in someone's BASE jumping because we know much better than you what it's like to be "new" and confused.

Skydiving, BASE jumping, and life in general is full of roadblocks. And well they should be, but fibbing your way through those roadblocks is not the way to overcome them. And if you have a disability you hit the jackpot as far as finding a group who would go out of their way to help you. Just ask pBASE Russel and so many others.

You and the sport of BASE started off on the wrong foot. But it's nothing you can't overcome if you want it bad enough. Just get with the program and drop the drama . . .

NickD
BASE 194

oops, I made a mistake. I do that.

but I still don't see how that relates to the topic "what happen to the WV girl?" care to connect the dots for me? help me out?

(I agree that hearing is not a pre-requisite for jumping.)

I really don't know the extent her hearing had in having the pass confiscated but misunderstanding happens all the time even among good hearing people. Apparently she had about 50 skydives (the minimum required).

But anyhow, this deaf jumper that many of us know, ironically does not pass the minimum BD skydives requirement because he only has 15. I don't know if they would make a special case because he has about 200 BASE jumps.

Now in defense of Joy there is a little paradox in this whole thing. You need 50 skydives to jump at BD. However no manufacture will lease you BASE gear if you have less than 150 jumps.

Apparently Joy had the skydiving done and she was truthful during her registration (what really counts). If she was misrepresenting her number of jumps to get her hands on safe BASE gear I really would not call her a liar.

Of course she could have just talked to Jason and told him that because her low jump number she cannot rent BASE gear. I bet he would have found a way out.

So Jason what about raising the jump number requirement to the "industry" standard?

You need 50 skydives OR BASE jumps. Just to clarify.

One of the reasons my deaf friend was brought up is Joy was saying she couldn't skydive or BASE jump because of her hearing disorder. It's kind of ironic however that he doesn't have the minimum number of skydives to jump at BD even though he has over 200 BASE jumps. I'm sure this would have been considered had he showed up especially since the people who trained/mentored him are rather well known. Even more ironic is he only has 15 jumps because he decided recently to get his A license. Before that he only had 2 or 3...

I stand corrected.

Really?
Saying she has 3 times the number of jumps that she really does in order to scam a BASE equipment company into renting her gear......
Sounds like lying to me....

IMO she did what she had to do to get her hands on safe BASE gear. If Jason's number was the same as the industry number she probably would have not registered to begin with.

She could have went out and bought a rig or contacted some jumpers that would not be attending BD and borrowed their rig. There is nothing that states you have to rent gear from a just limited list of manufactors.

Sure, should 've, could've would've...

She's got 50 skydives, she probably does not know any BASE jumpers, she has a hearing impediment, she does not know the "system", and she wants to jump badly from the bridge.

And stevebabin, it must be extremely boring living in such a perfect world. That's why I don't log anymore, I cannot lie if I have 1000 or 1001 jumps.

She lied. You seem to be ok with it.
But they are different.(as it is each their right....) It still doesn't justify lying to the gear company.

Given the circumstances, yes I'm very Ok with it.

I see the point you're getting at, but I'm sure if she talked to jason and told him of her not able to get gear because she has more then 50, but less then 150 jumps, that he would have helped her find a way. There isn't a need to lie in that situation.

yeah...it's not like she lied to you.

Yep,

Didn't I say so already?

Every time I get pulled over by a cop I lie.

Every time I have to put in writing I did not use any drugs in the past X months I lie.

Every time I call CC companies because I was late I lie.

I lie at people when they ask me if they are fat and/or ugly.

I lie at people when they are depressed or broken heart.

I lie at my students when they really had a bad skydive but they still have a huge smile on their faces.

I only live by one rule; try not to hurt beings (humans or other animals) and for as long as I meet that criteria the end justifies the means.

So she might have lied to get some decent gear, BIG FUCKING DEAL!

Over and out on this.

I was taught this when I was young:

"You can justify anything. It doesn't make it right."

You don't know me, I certainly don't live in a boringly perfect world.
To me it's a simple matter of trust.
She lied. She got caught. She got spanked. She'll deal with it and get over it.

Then you are probably a liar to, because shit tends to cling together.

Todd, Jimmy and Marta are good people. If she lied to them, and tried to put their livelyhoods and years of hard work at risk...FUCK HER...and anyone who attempts to support her actions.

My bad, you did.

But if she has no problem with lying to get gear, it does warrent a second look to see if she has lied to get a jump pass too.

She lied to Apex, and then told a newspaper the truth. Apex read her statement in the newspaper and called her on it.

You're really ok with that?

Lying to someone, and then publicly admitting it was a lie, in a newspaper, and then being upset when the folks you lied to call you on it because they saw the newspaper article?

Sounds like she would have possibly gotten away with it had she not been an attention whore to begin with. Too bad for her... and good for Apex for calling her out on it.

Base Rigger you seem two faced. If she had jumped, and something bad had happened, would you be blaming Jason for not looking it to her better and not knowing that she had lied to get gear. I think you would.

Also I noticed that you said you lie at them, not to them, is that a British thing?

Exactly.

One of my best mates is a reasonably experienced BASE jumper- around 200 BASE jumps off an impressive selection of objects worldwide.

He's also as deaf as a post.

The only time it's any kind of pain in the arse is if I suddenly decide I absolutely have to say something to him just as we're about to jump: he can't see my lips underneath a full face helmet, his extraordinarily expensive hearing aids are safely tucked in his pockets and my sign language is right around the level of "imbecile".

There have been a couple of comedy situations where we've been hanging off an object in the middle of the night, me waving my free hand in strange frustrated random motions, him with a very confused look on his face.

No bother: the jump should be planned well enough to avoid these situations anyway.

As far as Joy's situation is concerned, her frustration at being caught out is understandable. It's slightly worrying that she's chosen to drag the matter out and further embarrass herself, though.

I've not visited the NRGB, but I'm lead to believe that it's of fairly sturdy construction, and is very likely to be there next year, and the year after that?

Hopeful Joy will move on, gain more experience all round, and return far better prepared at a later date.

Kurt, that's two personal attaccks in 3 sentences. Remember that she is a member of these forums who is actively posting, you can't just say "fuck her." Calling someone else "shit" is also pretty clearly not going to fly under the forum rules.

I've banned you for 14 days.

...a few posts later...


Interesting.

Is Base Rigger's identity really that much of a secret?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure:

- He lives in New York
- Is friends with Magot
- Name rhymes with dick

I apologize in advance if I'm wrong.

why bother contradicting women... just wait, and they'll change their minds....

Does this Dick person you speak of also put signing line in old Italy language? Is he person who is stealing the Pizza tower?

I'll apologize afterward, too.

I'm sorry.

I was wrong. Sure had me fooled, though.

so basically base rigger,
if we understand you correctly ...

your just one big liar that does not provide your name or location and then tries to cause trouble.

thats nice.

Hey lets give him a chance.... maybe all he needs to do is a 4, 2 0 count down instead of a 3,2,1? I bet he'd smoke it then

i will absolutely not be giving him a chance

well i tried ... there was my good deed for the day

it sounds more like you are afraid of the truth. you'll lie to cover your own ass, but you don't want to hurt someones feelings, even if it's good for them?? how did you not hurt another being as an A-10 pilot? or did you lie about being sick when you had to actually do your job?


it seems to me like it's a big deal to you. especially after reading your many other posts...


you should know better, you can't use "over" and "out" in the same line.

The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable. ~James A. Garfield

I do not get it, what’s the fuss about?

BASE jumping is BASE jumping and BD is BD ... related? sure and BD is the ugly cousin from the swamps ...

BASE is self regulated and BD is not, it's not a democracy.

Jason runs the show and if he tells you "Sorry you can not jump" you can’t, and if he tells you to "F_ck off" you probably can ;) Seems to me Jason and he's crew are doing good.

And all this finger pointing ... *gasp*

Keep it up Jason!

PerFlare

Your not mushroom Rick who has a dog that you trained to steal money are you?

Just take your ball and go home.

-THE END

On paper and on the phone I told them that I would only have between 50-60 skydives on bd. They said that they where okay with that, and charged me for the gear. I NEVER SAID that I had 155 skydives.

Well, maybe if I slept with everyone at the DZ and gave everyone "happy pills" from my place of work. Then yeah..I would of had 155 skydives at bd.

I call you phone: 10/24 at 12:34pm..... 10/26 at 7:22pm...e-mail on 10/26 at 6:37pm

Sorry that I missed that rule: "Everyone must buy me a drink on saturday night."

"questioned your credentials" I offered to show you my log-book on thursday night, before you gave me my jump pass. My credentails where Never in question.


Hummm I wonder why some people want bd stopped. "what has this world come to"~~~sen bird I am not the one getting the state mad.

Someone from Apex asked me for "happy pills" or did I know a Doc in the area who give them some. Humm I wonder why that I was not my hand writing on the gear rental.

YOU called the press on this, not me....

Wow, no wonder you were refused. From the evolution of this thread you definilty seem manic. Do you really think the communities of skydiving and BASE are going to believe you because you use all those quotes?

But please keep it up, its quite funny

I thought we were supposed to supply our mentor with happy pills.... JUST a joke people.... Seems a dz would be making a good call to not let ya jump either.... whats the words Im looking for??? Not mentally competant enough to make decsions for themself or something?

Dammit now I cant go to bed cause I have to see the responses to this.....

Maybe bowling is a better sport for you....

You heard wrong. They were probably asking you to do your malfunction drills.

Time for the old TUG talk with a problematic jumper...

I am sorry to inform you but we all highly
recommend another sport for you, something
with less risk that does not require quick, clear
thinking, perhaps golf.

Take
Up
Golf

Joy,

Careful what accusations you make without anything to back it up. You may be pissed but this is a very, very small community and making statements like the above on a public forum whether they are true or not may get you ostracized by even the people who are on your side.

It's probably in your best interest to drop the whole thing and come back next year ready to jump. I would say Jason has the right to pull anyone's jump ticket at anytime for any reason. It is his show and until that changes he is the authority.

Tony

I said gun repair not gummy bears.

Joy, you are embarrassing yourself. Just let it go with some dignity. You'll have another chance in due time.

That sounds like a personal attack.

so, did you decide to try BASE because 'your parents cut off your skydiving money (and you were incollage with no money)' after some guy 'grabbed your vagina'?

Sounds like your path to skydiving and BASE hasn't been easy, passing out on your first jump, innapropriatly touched on a coach jump, and now getting kicked out of BD...

http://www.dropzone.com/...w_flat;post=2205984]?

Edited as it didn't make sense

i thought you were asking for some good hugs...

my bad

happy pills it is then

no, i said to her I want to eat your rug. not hugs.

Did the press grab your vagina?

All,

That's enough hassling Joy. Either she's learning things and changing her mind, or she's not. In either case, any more of this is likely to be counterproductive. Let's lay off.

Thanks!

Hi Jason, how ya going?
I read all the story about Ms. Joyjoy, and I am moreover very sorry about Brian loss, it saddened all of us.
Talking about you (if I can dare) and about your management of BD: I am with you and IMHO I think you are doing a great job.
I can understand that if something goes wrong, they put the blame on you, and if you refuse the right to jump to somebody (for your right reasons and according to what you feel is the right thing to do), you have a hard time.
Life is not perfect. BASE is WAY less perfect. I think you do a GREAT job indeed running BD every year the way you do.
I wish one day to partecipate to BD myself, not just for the jump/objcet itself but for all the "surroundings" (the people, the "before" BD, the "after" BD...).
Accept my best wishes to yourself, your wife and your baby.
Take care

well said.

Jason might have additional reasons to pull the badge, but has chosen NOT to reveal them in public.

and even if Jason acted arrogantly and capriciously, I doubt many would believe it. it's just not his style.

i will teach u to jump for free and ill give u gear to jump and ill come come to u to teach u and why JUST TO PISS OFF EVERYONE ON THE BASE BOARD DERKA DERKA MOHAMOUD JEHAD ITS HALLOWEEN AND IM GOING TO BE A VERY BAD BOY TONIGHT VERY BAD

..." Sounds like your path to skydiving and BASE hasn't been easy, passing out on your first jump, innapropriatly touched on a coach jump, and now getting kicked out of BD "...
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I hate to say it but, Man that's Got BASE jumper writen All Over It. ......
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And you are misrepresenting, or fibbing, about your A license?

A-50019 belongs to Dave F.

Or did Halloween come a little early to Bridge Day . . . ?

I think Joy Joy is an undercover Park Ranger, and not a too good one either . . .

NickD
BASE 194

I have to agree with Ray. If the allegations are true, she has bullshitting not quite down to an art but it's a nice start.
take care,
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Her profile now says A-50092

Anyone with the capability care to verify that?

The October issue of parachutist only goes up to 49564, not sure how Nick knew who owned that 50xxx number.

A. Hollingsworth A50092

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Wow. Just making them up as she goes?

That is the same surname as was given in the press.

LMFAO!

My D license is D-1.

I jumped with Bill Ottley last week!

Quit lying because you got busted and now you are embarrassed! No one @ the DZ wants your HAPPY PILLS or is interested in your VAGINA! You have already made a bad name for yourself worldwide in this community, and you know it so, you are telling all that it is your ears so you can bow out gracefully. Well it's too late...no grace on your bow out!!!

Very few if any of your posts make sense. You just seem like the type of person who wants to raise shit and is never happy with anything. I get the impression that if she had jumped and had gotten seriously injured or died you would still be bitching out Jason Bell for not checking her credentials when they were questioned and pulling her badge. So, which would you prefer? For Jason to have made a mistake and pulled the badge of a perfectly qualified jumper? (which I do not believe to be the case) Or, allow someone underqualified who lied about their credentials to jump and get injured or even die? Please let me know because I'm really curious as to what your answer would be.

then ask him in a pm, instead of jumping on the "fuckyou" bandwagon..