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What is the max allowable delay after exit off bridge? anyone,anyone help a guy out here

I believe it's 8.8 seconds from exit to impact

Depends on how much of a chance you want to live.

I have seen a 7 sec delay there. What are you trying to do?

Nuthin much! Just live..... to jump again! I'm new, so i just wanted a time frame that i could make a decision on delay 2 secs sound alright for a virgin baser

take it to three, slider down/off, handheld you should be fine. unless of course you fuck up.

What could go wrong? It's only base. JOKINGLY

lots a shit. NOT JOKINGLY

How about a little respect for our sport. BASE is serious, you can and will die if you do not respect this sport. Even if it is the 'Bridge'.

Ask Magot. I heard he's gonna be teaching there.

Easy up about the respect!! My friend ,I understand the full gravity of what could and may happen at the bridge! If you have any advice don't be selfish and throw a dog a bone or two on tips! I'll take anything you got. Thanks JOHNNY O

John"ie"...

You can take as long a delay as you'd like. Too long and the river will not be very forgiving.

It sounds to me like 9 seconds is TOO long...

If you plan on deploying your canopy within that 9 second window you must understand what may happen. If you don't then I wouldn't advise stepping off the platform.

Some people will be flicking some crazy shiite off that bridge. If your profile is correct, I would NOT advise you doing the same.

Be safe, have fun...Don't be stupid!

why?
1) most people's sense of time is greatly distorted during a jump.

2) more importantly, what delay are YOU willing to take? cautious jumpers start with a conservative delay, then build up.

the time to impact is great for impressing whuffos, but use experience for planning jumps.

The longest delay I know of that has been done there was by BASE 175 - a nice 7.7 second delay. The next longest delay was done by BASE 74, a typical 7 second delay. The delay can be prolonged with a nice hard track to slow down the vertical speed.

…and even if you respect this sport you might die…

The wingsuit delay of James last year looked very long...

So very true. And hell, I have climbed down twice in the last week, and try to be as safe as possible. I could still be next. This is something that I have accepted, and will continue to accept. Until death do me part from BASE.
I also know that when I entered into the most extreme addiction I have ever had, I was also cocky, and sometimes knowingly made the wrong decision. My risk to pleasure ratio was off balance.
I have never wanted something so bad in my life, finally got it, and was on a one way ticket to either getting hurt very badly, or the alternative. I have since learned that patients IS a virtue, and you don't always get what you want.
One of the main reasons I will not be attending bridge day this year is because of all the 50 jump wonders getting to experience what I have worked, and still work so hard to achieve. To me, none of you 50 jump wonders deserve it. I think bridge day should be for BASE jumpers only. Plus I am not too much on hype, attention, or watching people jump that don't deserve it. Unknowingly what they are truly getting themselves into.
So on that note, all of you have fun, be safe, and most importantly, DON'T DIE...

peace

I made my 1st base jump at Bridge Day 1993. Did I not "deserve it"? Jumpers need to start somewhere and Bridge Day has always filled this need. Also, there are very, very few jumpers with less than 100 skydives, which is the standard prerequisite for your average BASE FJC.

Many people say you should go to Bridge Day not necessarily for the jumps, but to experience the "circus" of the festivities.

How many BASE jumpers do you think have not gone purely because of the "circus" atmosphere?

But how many of those at bridge day with one hundred skydives do you think actually attended the FJC? That should be the prerequisite.
I am not discouraging anyone from getting into BASE. I also know a lot of current BASE jumpers started at bridge day, and have developed their skills, knowledge, and RESPECT. I am not going to get into some big debate on this subject.
Hell, 460 only had 60 jumps when he started jumping and I believe he had everything it takes at that time. He is also a genius and am proud to say that he is one of my best friends. I am not saying that some of them would be prime candidates for this sport. But it is not ethical to say that someone starting BASE with 100 skydives, to someone starting with 500 would have a way better understanding for what is truly going on. On the other hand, some people really get off on the analytical side and think they know it all. And they might. But someone who didn't study as much, with pen point instincts, would survive a problem much quicker and most likely survive. Over analyzing a problem while it is occurring will not turn out too well. problem occurring: " ok, this is happening, so let me refer to..." WHAM!!!
Yes, you should obtain every little bit of information that you can and absorb it. Everyone should.
I would also advise that all of the low timers read up before bridge day. Hopefully they already have BASE specific gear and have already jumped their BASE canopy out of a plane a few times and done all of the procedures that will help save their lives.

I am not trying to piss anyone off, or discourage anyone from getting involved. But this is no amusement park ride, and everyone getting involved should know and understand the consequences.

When I started jumping, there were no real FJC's (except for cliff camp, which didn't last long). We learned from other experienced jumpers. So don't gasp in horror if someone doesn't attend a formal FJC.

Many of us like to put BASE jumping on a pedestal. BASE jumping requires no real skills except quick thinking and reactions. Sorry to anyone who thinks that BASE jumping is some super-elite sport.

BASE also requires commitment though. I know of many in the sport that won't even speak to you until you've shown some sort of commitment.
I also know several that have jumped at BD several times, and are somewhat jaded, as to what BASE really is. They seem to think every BASE jump is all organized like BD.

I haven't met anyone who thought base jumps were all organized like BD. Maybe a whuffo, but not a jumper.

I'd love to sit here tonight and type out my feelings on this forum, but I'm pretty busy right now with the BD event this weekend. Cya at the bridge.

I think you're missing the point of Bridge Day.

Bridge Day and BASE are related, but not the same thing. Bridge Day has it's own culture, history and standards, which are different from those of BASE jumping generally.

I value Bridge Day as Bridge Day. I value BASE jumping as BASE jumping. I think of the two things separately.

Thats more like what I was trying to say, but I'm tired and the words came out wrong.

I think it's also possible that someone with 100 skydives could have better canopy skills than someone with 500, depending on how they used their time under canopy.

Not at all. I think representation of our sport in todays standards in completely crucial to the survival of it, and the ability for it to grow. The only way it will ever be accepted in a manor that we could open up some of our sites in the US is to promote safety. I just think allowing the inexperienced to participate is asking for more negativity to what we are trying to promote as an acceptable sport in the eyes of the ones putting us in jail and stealing our gear.
I absolutely respect bridge day and everything it has done for BASE. I am friends with some of the innovators of BD. #38, #36, #58. I have heard so many stories from them, and respect everything they accomplished. From hearing stories, I know what bridge day was, and now, what it is. It is perceived completely different now. Now it is just a big party and a social setting. Then, it was passion, innovation, and pure courage. Back then, people didn't even know what BASE was. Now, we are the enemy. I know this from personal experience.
Quote BASE 38: "hell, back then we didn't even know what we were doing." " Everything was experimental and in the testing process." " Now, gear is so technologically advanced that even a 'dumb ass' can survive..."
I think BD could do so much for BASE under the right circumstances. I would just hate to bring anymore negativity to what we all cherish so dearly.
Why is BD different from BASE. Is it not a BASE jump? Do we really want inexperienced jumpers to do something stupid and hurt themselves? Or, do we really want the 50 jump wonder to buy that new rig for BD, everything goes smooth, and thinks 'hey' it worked then. I think I will go jump from my local A now.
I just think there should be a little bit of a higher standard for the prerequisite. Maybe I am wrong.

Just like the USPA, if we work as a whole, we could actually make a difference. Not that I want a governing body to regulate it. Which is virtually impossible... But if we all pull together, in ten years maybe some of our Big Walls could be accessible. I know it is a long shot, but you never know what we can actually accomplish.

Hope I am not pissing off anyone, but everyone, including me, is entitled to an opinion.

I would put some big money on the fact that if BD had a prerequisite, we would still have the number of jumpers that that is desired, and there would be a completely different vibe and positive influence.

I will go next year, just because that object rocks!

Can you explain why you think this?


Why do you think that BASE needs public acceptance or support to survive?

Do you think that growth of the sport is good? What makes you think that?

Thanks.

a circus atmosphere CAN lead to poor judgement. last year's turkey boogie and at least one big weekend in TF come to mind...

guess which event has the less experienced jumpers? many experienced jumpers attend BD KNOWING they will be guiding newbies.

BD has a remarkable safety record. currently, Jason works tirelessly to keep everyone safe.


everything changes! equipment, techniques, and events all change. we get to choose if we honor those who have come before and developed things, or we can disagree with what they wrought. it seems you disagree with the world your friends helped create... (even if it is not what they desired.)


suggestions?
oh, and where should the newbies go?

I know many who attend to get a taste of BASE, to see what it is like. it's like a tandem jump. it lets them decide if they should continue or not. you'll know these people because they'll jump skydiving rigs. do you think most then go buy a BASE rig? (check out how much BASE gear goes on sale AFTER BD.)

bingo!

I have video of that and I'm pretty sure it's in the 9+ second region.

It's amazing what wingsuits have done even with so little working time, James opened pretty much at the landing area.

is that video posted online?

Bridge Day. Fuck yeah.

Yeah on skydiving movies.

PF video

Kris.

thanks. it looks like one of the boats didnt see him until he was open and they had to do a 180 just in case of a water landing. nice flight.

I was in the landing area, and I think his plan was to take a water landing. His off-heading put him just on the shoreline, and he rolled his ankle a bit. I haven't watched the video (was it shot from above?), but I can tell you from my perspective below that it was pretty much a psychotically low pull.

He wasn't that low and he didn't have an off heading.... maybe they made two jumps.

James made at least 3 wingsuit jumps. One was a 4 way with Baxter, Perry and Robert in Prodigies and James in a Phantom (maybe an Acro?). One was a rodeo with me. The third was a solo where he flew very far (that's the one I was describing, above). I'm not sure if he made more jumps than that, but it's very possible.