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Recently at my home DZ. Which used to have a rep for being quite hardcore and lawless. there are several people who think that they want to get into base. They've bought brand new gear. and I mean top of the line shiite here. but instead of taking it off of a fixed object, like I've offered to bring them to.A very friendly freestander w/ a large landing area, during the day even. they've opted to go through the trouble of building a Dbag to attach to a student rental rig which they then take out of the otter on a H&P. Is this common? And if so, what the hell is this world coming to? I kind of assumed that this sport required filters to keep those that aren't ready out of it. And wouldn't the willingness to accept the risk of a fixed object jump be a good filter? Granted they will probably end up doing a dozen jumps in there life, all potato and BD, but aren't those still BASE jumps. There is an inherent risk involved in this sport. Shouldn't that be accepted and acknowledged from the beginning? Does this happen often?

Let me make sure I'm getting this straight...

A number of skydivers are jumping BASE canopies out of a plane to prepare for a future BASE career, and you're saying they should have the balls to go straight to a fixed object instead?

I didn't think it was even possible to be too slow in preparing for a BASE career.

Next thing you know, somebody will give you shit for even having made some skydives before you started BASE jumping. Lame...

At the risk of being hooked by a troller here. I'll state that not only is that common practice but it is also just common sense. In fact, it is written into our owner's manual as a recommendation. There are two reasons:

Parachutes get assembled inspected and placed into plastic bags for delivery. It really doesn't matter how good a quality system it was manufactured under, until it opens for the first time, it is nothing more than a bundle of fabric and string. Why make that first jump a single parachute jump?

Secondly, why not get a realistic amount of canopy time under your new parachute before being forced to operate it in the unforgiving environment of a BASE jump? A single skydive is equivalent to a least 10 BASE jumps worth of flight time.
Besides planning and judgment, canopy skills are what BASE is is all about.

Sure, back in the day, we all did many things that weren't so well thought through. I'd like to think that in thirty years of taking risks we figured out the ones that were unnecessary.

Adam Filippino
Consolidated Rigging
crmojo.com

alright then, I figured i was just being retarded and giving them an unnecessarilly hard time. still seems to lack balls to me though. where's the sense of adventure?

people like this are loved by those who make base gear they buy brand new shit and never use it except for bridge day. just so they can tell everyone there base jumpers. the only way to solve this problem is to borrow there gear froim them with out telling them and never give it back have good base gear go to waste, is a sin when theres kids out there jumping cruzlite's raven and furys that are actually base jumpers

Seems you are damned if you try and prepare properly and damned if you dont.....
I'll send it back to you with 'what the hell is this world coming to ?'

I'm sure you will agree that every persons reasons/motivations/enjoyment in BASE and getting into it would show great variance.

I dont think its fair to have a go at those who think about it differently to you......and at least they will have a little bit more experience on their canopy for when they do their first BASE jump......and that cant be a bad thing can it?
The first time I BASE jumped was the first time I had jumped a BASE canopy....everything went OK but asked if I could have practiced on that canopy in more forgiving enviroment first...I would say...yes.

I mean there's more than enough adventure in doing your first BASE jumps anyway isnt there? without having to worry about how much control over your canopy you have.

Live and let live....

There's been an accuracy rig offered without hire charge for a while on UK base board. Has had 265 and bigger BASE canopies freepacked into it. Contributions to help keep reserve in date always welcome.

big-up the cartman handle!

It didnt seem like a lack of balls to me going through the door of the otter with my d bag in my hands throwing it into the air.

You know me and know my canopy experience. My lack of balls has never been what you have said about my flight experience.

What's up with the extra d-bag and (I'm assuming) using the base canopy as a 3rd canopy?

Why not just find a rig (student rigs are pefect for this) that is big enough for your base canopy?

Then freepack it into that, that way you also get to practice folding the canopy without messing up your packjob.

Just strikes me as plain stupid not to. Even knowing the gear is tried and tested + being familiar with it, base has its risks - as you point out. Why add another?

Acknowledging the risks is good. Not taking the opportunity to reduce them isn't.

To get experience flying a BASE canopy I cutaway my main, hooked the risers of a used Mojo280 to my rig, packed the canopy using clamps and bungees, placed it in a Publix shopping bag, rode to 3,500 with the bag on my lap, hopped out with my back to the relative wind, ripped the bag, threw the canopy away from me, and hoped for the best.

This worked amazingly well three times....the fourth and final time I got distracted by numerous questions from bystanders during the pack job and accidentally left the slider down.

The instant I threw the canopy away from me I saw my mistake and in less than a second I was hanging the harness moaning in pain and wondering why those little birds were flying around my head

I have a BJ 310 and it would not fit in our srudent rigs (easily) So I made a d bag bigger and put a BOC pouch on it and went out of the otter on my back and deployed the dbag directly. I also wanted to wear a harness that was comfortable, more like the one I will be using when I base.

Wow. One of the k-rad mega kEwL base jumpers. Always wondered what one looked like.

the really easy way is to jump wearing both your baserig and skydiving rig

the added advantage is that you get to test jump your complete base rig

Respect mah authoritah!!!

I bought this rig off Sam couple years ago, it is very pretty (silver with lilac trim) but keeps bad company.

That sounds very interesting....would you care to post how you do/did that......practically?

maybe they hate climbing. they'd rather specialize in real low stuff.

they aren't checking the canopies, but the D-BAG!

I didn't know it was Sam's. That's funny.


Are you referring to my good self? Never.

(well, certainly not now )

these craker ass honkeys need to learn how to fly there tarps or stay on the golf corse i am going to see my vodoo shaymen to put spells on all the white devil crakers that dont like there tarps with string and degrade them by flicking planes its crap i tell u total crap there all kaffers by he way has anyone seen my flash gordon head band i lost it in a game of rusian rulet

Everybody here obviously thinks I was ragging on the skyjumpers. not the case. In fact i was checking myself and my opinion, and isn't this the best place to get set straight?
right on, glad everybody is so safety conscious. good for you, to each his own, and all that jazz.
Johnny, I wish you wouldn't take offense. you were part of one of the ballsiest groundcrew missions I've ever needed after all. I would never insult you.
Hey JP, who the hell are you to chime in? Didn't you sell your base rig as you were moving to within an hour of NYC? Why don't you step up to the plate and let us take you on a man's jump if you wan't to talk shit? (There's obviously plenty of unused base gear to borrow at the ranch now) how's a sub 200' tower sound, maybe a nice hefty slider off delay into NYC traffic? Untill you've out done me, I am mega kEwL........ bro.

Why don't you take your skydiver attitude back to the dropzone, where it belongs?

"I'm sorry I had a fight in the middle of your black panther party."

Because I'm obviously a big pussy.

dork police.

no one really cares were just board because were to lazy to get up a 3am to flick

Then quit flappin' your lips...
'cause while you were sleeping at 2:30 this morning, I was opening a new slider up crane into a tiny ass parking lot surrounded by buildings. And I'll be back out before sunrise again.

And oh yeah, Tom, since when has this sport been lacking in it's share of over-inflated egos that sometimes rub together and cause friction. This aint no freakin hippie commune. Cut me some slack. NYC is my dropzone...........

Because I always eat my humble pie when it is justly served...............

maybe i should skydive my base canopy, as i think I'm going to lose a toenail after my fantastic tumble past our car on landing last night......
Do you think you can practice building turbulance avoidance at the dropzone?

That ought to bring a smile to most of your faces.

Tom,
Can we classify his attitude as "bad" or "shitty" not "skydiver"?
Can he go "away" or "to Syria" instead of the Dropzone?

i know. some people just take this virtual (ie: fake) base zone a bit too seriously from time to time.

its all just ones and zeros riding electrons over cables made of copper.
or light.

get the phuckin nylon out kiddos. put away the ones an zeros

you think you are so extreme dont you, being from the right coast and all. trying to talk down to all the worried first timers...how about a low pull aerial contest off the power tower, just me and you...i will draw first blood after all...

ill take that challenge cock mouth threw the wires into a head wind highnoon on 04/01/07 winner gets gets away loser gets busted and ill even throw in my buck rodgers lunch box. ive had it since the 6th grade its my most valude postion.

 what are you hiding from "rambo". scared to tarnish your pretty boy image here on the dorkzone?
I was not trying to talk down to the worried first timers. i was curious of their methods and how often the same was used. I would never insult a beginner (intentionaly) Do you have any clue what a scared little bitch I was when i was learning? In fact, I'm still a scared little bitch on the right objects. But isn't that one of the greatest parts of this sport, facing your inner fears? So why don't you conquer your fear of public identification and repost under your real name? boy you fuckers sure are sensitive for such a "hardcore" sport.
since you offered, I'd never turn down an LP contest........... I'm sure you know my number, or where to get it.
hey maggot, I'm in for the fools day headwind contest but we gotta do it towards the resevoir. too good of landings on the other side. I wouldn't have the heart to take that buck rogers lunch box, but if you find the flash gordan head band..... i'll pay you're fines when officer gibsby shows up.

I think the bike rack at recess might be more suitable.......

yeah you're probably right..........
what do you say rambo.....

just my 2 cents i only had 7 base jumps before i stupidly swooped my pelvis into the ground. Im now a cripple for life if i was ever to jump again give me base it was always better than skydiving any day and its all i would do if i could still jump. Now that wasnt the ? was it when i got a used fox 285 from the factory i jumped it alot one day just to get canopy skills and look i never got hurt bas jumping so is skydiving your canopy good experience yes and heres something else you can think about the nite before my fatefull accident on my 7th base jump i opened a 430' free stander and my mentor said that was the ballsest thing he had ever seen with someone with my limited base experience but hey i didnt know what i was doing and i didnt get hurt i though i new how to swoop and im a criple now so do the math lol
your friend and admirer dave and by the way i miss you tree i know you see this i hope you and the family is fine we miss you here on the east coast

hey redgeworth.....
You got a problem w/ syria? What the hell would you wish an asshole like me on them for? How's about I come over to your DZ, or better yet your house. We could have tea and crumpets. maybe discuss current political affairs?
That's right, I'm ripping on everybody in this thread..... bring the ruckus. ya f'n cry babys! ha ahaha ha ha hahaha hah ahah ah a. F all Y'all I'm goin out to flick. 2:00 sunday morning and the near full moon just rose. howoooooooooooool!!!!!
PS If anybody that hates me reads this in time... send the cops to Ma Bell, ya know I love a good challenge.
I am such a dick!!!!! ha ha ha!

hell yea maggot, bring it on man...hey that guy mtnlion sure got his panties in a bunch, did you see what he wrote to me? Man, what a pussy.hey mtnlion, im sure you were scared as fuck and pissing yourself the first time...see thats the difference between you and me, i wasnt, because i am rambo and definitely alot cooler than you could ever wish to be. so before you go making fun of other people, why dont you take a close look at yourself, and realize that you really arent that cool!!!

i love how some people do this to look good and others do it to feel good. you sound to me like some guy that got diddled as a kid and now needs the constant attention.

Don't be dissing on the "real Rambo" I certainly don't want my pretty boy image tarnished here!

Rambo ~ 20 plus years

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Maggot says:
ill take that challenge cock mouth


You are as gay as your new buzz cut makes you look aren't you.....?

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