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The sign clearly reads “Rocks”. Nobody said anything about humans

That was funny as hell dmcoco84.

He actually pulls off a nice gainer after the toss also.

Have Fun!
Baz

LOL, I remember that one... come on David, post the video so we can see how good you look!

OMG that was a hilarious jump!!!! ummmmm "nice gainer"? Come on now...that shit was ugly as hell. We under prepped that jump and I pushed off too early so I had too much forward momentum. I had to flail like a bitch to get that gainer to go over. It was a blast though.

Haha yea I know you liked that one Brit. I’ll load it up right now. It will be under the name my buddy josh gave it, “the retard jump.” I'll put one of my double reverses up too so you get the best and worse my TF jumps.

Coco

http://www.skydivingmovies.com/...ion=file&id=4045

Dave

All set. Its posted. Enjoy! I sure did!

http://www.skydivingmovies.com/...ion=file&id=4045

Coco

Nice! Thanks for the vid, that’s a riot!

I wish you could have seen the look on my wife’s face when they hucked you over the edge. It was Priceless!

Have Fun!
Baz

P.S. This sign is posted near the stairwell. We must of missed it.

That was rather um... athletic

Dude that sign is so sweet! I love it! Thanks Chris!

Coco

Awesome. Love the fish-like flailing

Nice work dude!

That was some quality flailing right there.

I really like how you’ve ignored all the times previously that people have suggested maybe you should slow down a little before you hurt yourself.

If you are going to jump in stupidly windy conditions please learn to handle your canopy on the ground – it’s embarrassing to other basejumpers when you are dragged around the landing area or spend an eternity wrestling around your canopy in the wind after landing. Makes the spectators think we are no-skill yahoos.

Your single gainer was nice.

Your double was too until you pulled early. Keep doing that and you will bounce your pilot chute off your foot at some point if you’re lucky, if you’re unlucky you will get it entangled on you somewhere.

Also, keep jumping in skate shoes from wet exit points and sooner or later you will slip on launch. That will be very exciting when it happens.

I’m also curious as to why you would bother wearing a helmet that provides practically no real impact protection?

You certainly gave that video clip an apt name, too bad it applied to 2 of the 3 jumps on there…

I would have been nice, but so many people have been nice on here with you before that I’m not gonna bother.

Cya

Hopefully…

Sam,

You are such a killjoy!
He is clearly taking safety seriously he's wearing shades afterall. Have you any idea how harmful UV rays are!!

Looks to me that he has watched Jebs videos too much.


C-ya

 

Hey Tree

I don’t understand why you should not open up (to slow your rotation and get your legs straight behind you in case you pitch while still vertical) before you pitch??

I think we all agree that you have an angle window of about 180 degrees from head down vertical to head up vertical for the safest pitch.

Pitching in the rotation, especially on multiple/fast rotations makes this angle window a small time window.

Opening up during your last rotation will slow your rotational speed and make the time window bigger and therefore easier to hit accurately.

I do not see any drawbacks (other than making your delay longer) to opening up on your last rotation and straightening your legs, as long as they are straight and you have rotated past head down vertical before you pitch.

Please share your reasoning as to why this is not good?



Coco – I am not pretending like I am the flawless aerialist here, far from it, I realize how shitty it feels to be upside down in the rotation and feel your pilot chute bounce off your foot, because I have done that (and was lucky enough to get away with it). I just want you to think about these things as I have seen them injure very experienced jumpers. Did you try going flat and stable while getting thrown over the side first? I somehow doubt you did. Also, there are more effective ways to get a rotation started from a normal forward launch than what you did. Maybe you should have learned those first by launching out far and then turning a gainer.

Keeping the legs together rather than spreading them as shown in the video is what Tree is referring to.

Well I do apologize if it puts off that perception but the main cause to that was I couldn’t stop laughing at myself once I touched down. I guess because I was laughing so much I found it so difficult to control my canopy. My bad!


Thank you. I did a flat and stable 3 second delay from 600 from one of my local A’s the day before I came out and then I did 3 singles from the bridge before the double.


Oh I definitely agree! All of my aerials are done from 900 or 1150 so up until now I would simply come out of the flip into a track and would track until deployment. After my 3 singles I decided I wanted to give the double a try. I’ve been talking with someone through pm’s who has much more training and experience with aerials then myself and most of what has been said here technique wise he advised me on also after seeing the video. I definitely have a lot to work on in cleaning up my aerials. I seem to have pretty good constancy with my doubles from 900 so I felt I should be ok doing one from the bridge (good rotation speed without over/under rotations). At the least it would be much smarter to do so on an S and not an A. I’ve seen a few videos of people doing them at TF and ended up over/under rotating which created off headings and line twists. I’d rather have that on an S than an A.


You’re right on that one too! I was going to purchase a pair of Hanwags while I was out there but changed my mind. A few peoples comments about them turned me away along with the bright blue color. Someone made a good point that they are not very inconspicuous. Also there was a comment about difficulty in running out fast landings with them. But I did just purchased a pair of hiking boots from Columbia Sportswear. Waterproof, darker color and decent ankle protection. So I got that covered.


Yes skydiving full face helmets don’t do much but it’s definitely better than nothing. I did purchase a snowboarding helmet (Boeri Tactic) but I didn’t like it very much. I jumped it a handful of times and it wasn’t comfortable so I started wearing my old full face. At the least if I had a bad landing and smacked my head on the ground or on a rock it would help a little. But yea major impact it won’t do much.


Np bro, I’ve got thick skin I don’t mind.

And like you said your not a flawless aerialist. We all start somewhere and no one is going to do them perfectly starting out. I've spent time in a gym (and will be doing much more), very closely watched video's of others who have excellent technique, and spoken with those who know what thy are doing. There really isn't much more you can do to prepare yourself other than doing it (starting off on higher objects as I have done) and learning as you go. Just like in skydiving, I was flying nine way head down last summer but a few hundred jumps before I was lucky if I could dock. Just takes practice, debriefing and more training.

Tree – Got it! Thanks. Yes I do need to keep my legs together. That will come with more work in the gym. Also working on getting some harness training going. That will help drastically.

Coco

P.S. Thank you tree and everyone else for the advice and analysis of my jump. I appreciate the constructive criticism and it will definitely aid in my progression.

which sice is your bori? i might want to buy it from you,take it to PM,if its for sale

Good skills taking the critiqe as a learnning lesson rather than bash,i didnt make my first arial so far and the analys told me alot already

Pushing off the flat surface is asking to slip. Hang the toes over like a good BASE jumper and push off the edge. Boots have tread so if the toes are hung well over the edge they are superior to deck shoes.

Coco,
based on the length of your response, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you have begun your BASE career caring entirely too much whether or not the internet people approve of you.

Keep up the BASE jumping, but stop the caring before it kills you.

You'll ignore my advice and become one of "them" I have no doubt.

-jimmy

Sending you a PM.

Coco

if there is hope for me... then coco can be helpedalso... leave no man behind!

So let me get this right: all your previous aerials were from 876 ft and above (slider up, I assume?), then 3 single gainers (all slider off?, all laid out?), from 486 ft and that is the point you felt ready to throw a double from 486ft?

I’m curious as to where the ‘retard-jump’ fit into this well planned progression?

 

Nice Colors Coco....

www.pete.fi

No…..Slider off…Nothing like a 7 second delay slider off to wake you up in the morning.


YUP! I’ve got at least 30 Double reverses from 900+, a few double fronts, and lots of single reverses. Through watching the videos I have shot of my jumps in freefall I can see it takes ~200 feet or less to do two rotations. I haven’t had any issues with over/under rotations and have been exiting my rotations into tracks very smoothly. You yourself even said the double was nice until the early pull. The pull sequence is more difficult than coming out into a track in my opinion and as I do it more and more it will get better and cleaner. Yes I’m less conservative than most but that’s my comfort zone. If you didn’t when you were at my level than that’s you. Faber’s got almost 300 and he has yet to do anything but flat and stable he says. That’s his comfort zone and I respect that.


Ya know what…Whatever dude! There are tons of people out there that have done stupider shit than that and had scarier jumps than I have had. I’ve heard many stories about other jumpers that have had some major fuck ups and they weren’t even doing anything out of the norm. They just don’t show the video or talk about them so no one ever knows but their jump buddies. It was a fun jump and it gave a few people some laughs. Just let it be.

How’s that sound Jimmy??

Coco

how does that sound?

it sounds like you have a spectacular surprise waiting in your future and you are being blinded by your arrogance from seeing it

don't expect much sympathy when it happens with that attitude

done

David on a real note, this is not a personal attack. Just trust me here. Whether or not you admit it, you are looking for attention on some level here. Yes everyone has their comfort zone, but when there are more than a few saying slow down, maybe its for a reason?, it might pay to pay attention. You said it yourself, "There are tons of people out there that have done stupider shit than that and had scarier jumps than I have " Why do you want to be that other person? By saying they have done "stupider shit" are you admitting that you might be doing something stupid?" I am trying to be the devils advocate here. Don't get me wrong, I am not judging you. I guess what I am trying to say is that all BASE jumpers need to constantly need to effectivly evaluate themselves. I personally, after a school of hard knocks, can say that I can; can you?

You also mention people not showing their videos. Here is another key point. Why did you show the video? what was the net gain? what did you want to accomplish from showing the video?

I am not totally sure about how to address all of this, but what I can say is that Attitude good or bad goes a long way and it takes a long time to change peoples first and or new bad impressions. I know that you are a smart guy David, hell you just finished that firefighter/paramedic course. Please be objective in how you want to project/ present yourself to the online BASE community if that is where you want to be accepted/belong.

Personally one of the bigger things I have learned is to not try to get everyone to like you... fk em. If they dont accept you for who you are, dont be fake and dont be a sheep like 99.9% of the world., they can move on. There are plenty more things in life to worry about..

I hope this wasnt to garbled, but I seriously dont want to see you get hurt among other things. We are a family and I think everyone here dosent want to see any of us get hurt or worse. I believe that most of us care for each other as a BASE family on some level to some degree no matter who/where/what country/etcc...

David,
Take this for what it's worth.

Firstly – I didn’t start this post, so I wasn’t “looking for attention”. It came to me. Not that I care Chris. Like I said before, it’s all good. I liked the pics and the sign. Good Stuff.

Secondly - I was asked to post the video. I didn’t start a post and say “hey everyone look at my jump that didn’t go quite as planned.” And I put other jumps on there to show that I do have abilities other than flailing around. I couldn’t get the gainer to go over so I barrel rolled out of it and pitched. Nothing new, others have done that many a time on regular gainers without the addition of being thrown off the object. And the only issue with my double reverse was the pull sequence which as stated by a very well know and respected jumper through a PM “I thought your double looked fine until the pitch sequence. That is however, the most important part, and can't really be practiced in the gym.” That will come with time and practice. Whether I have 500 jumps or 58 that could still be an issue and can’t be learned on the ground. I have made every conscious effort to safely prepare myself for the very basic aerials that I do.

Thirdly – I have shown an excellent attitude on this board up until my last post where I showed some sarcasm and disgust. There are plenty of times when I have caught shit for comments or what not, stated my case and handled it in a professional matter, right, wrong or indifferent. I’ve actually been commended quite a few times on my positive attitude in handling criticism and accepting advice.

Coco

Edit for spelling

On the rain/slipping/footwear tip, might I suggest a sticky rubber approach shoes made for climbers?

Try this, or similar:

http://www.amazon.com/...glance&n=3375251

And no, I'm not a BASE jumper (yet?), but I have put my time in as a climber, so I know the value of good quality footwear.

Zipp0