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No, no, no, no,Never ever ever!!
At first I was concerned about his rig but now I realize that he was putting it all over the packing area and other peoples packing mats and this was even worse. After I spoke to him, he used it as a place to stow his packing clamps(NO) instead of a packing weight. He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. Can we get some input from others on why you should not do this so the guy realizes that I was only trying to help and not being a jerk. I’ve seen harnesses eaten through.
Thanks in advance,
Take care,
space

Fine, I'll be the jerk: "Using a car battery during packing is fucking retarded!"

Yeah, this just seems like a no-brainer. Use a rock, it won't spill battery acid all over your $2000 rig or shock the shit out of you when you grab your clamps.
I'm all for using what is on hand: rocks, a friends rig, a small child; but a battery is a little out there.

But that's just me talkin'

I find a tent peg through the three rings to be a secure, handy and portable packing aid when on grass, similiar to the Triax stake, but much cheaper, although it can't open beer (well, maybe ring-pulls)

Sometimes you've just got to sit on a case of beers and cry...

I use ropes for work every day, and have only heard stories of acid eating through ropes and people falling, battery acid in fact, from a car battery that leaked into the back of a truck and the ropes sat in it. Yeah, battery acid is REALLY bad.

Please tell me you're joking!

Just in case you are for real, acid and nylon do not mix well because the presence of acid will severely degrade nylon.

Years ago a batch of bad mesh fabric found its way into a bunch of round reserves. The mesh had been treated with some sort of acid--I think it was a flame retardant or something like that. Anyway, the prolonged contact betwen the mesh and the nylon canopy fabric cause the canopy fabric to have roughly the tensile strength of toilet paper in some cases, and that was acid in trace amounts!

Car batteries, in general, contain acid and need to be kept away from nylon, e.g., parachute stuff.

edited to add:
Tracy, I looked at that pic again. That's too fucked up to be made up. That really is for real, isn't it?

Walt

And everyone thought I was fucked up for using human skulls for packing weights.

Yes this is fucked.

But might be cool is to empty one, clean it out, clean it out again, test it, dry it, and use it for a packing weight. No danger and everybody would be bitching.

(KIDS, DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME! I'm a chemist, used to working with concentrated acids, didn't think I got any on me with one of those fill it at home batteries, and still had a spot hurting on my hand.)

For rigging I use a 14 inch piece of railroad track.

Never !.....

BWAHAhhhha!
Darwin says it's cool....continue.
~J

I know it's an expesnive piece of equipment and all, but isn't the real issue here that the acid will eventually eat through the webbing and potentially kill the person it is suppoes to be supporting?

I understand the whole Darwinism theory and all, and completely agree with it. BUT, how many people out there are jumping a used rig that this could have been done to and may fail at any given time in the future?

Ganja

wouldn't it be ethical to say don't buy a used rig from this person? I know I wouldn't want to buy a rig from this guy sometime next month once he realizes that he may not have used his best judgement. I realize that on inspection you may find discoloration but it would suck to find out the hard way.

It wasn't using the human skulls that seemed weird, it was the fact that you kept calling them mom and dad.

Walt

oh man! that is brilliant. i mean, who doesn't carry an extra battery around with them everywhere? what better way to put it to good use.

i wish i had pictures of the pants i was wearing when after working on my car's battery cables i had wiped my hands on them... they came out of the wash with a some significant holes... ooops!

so his rig should be fine as long as it doesn't get wet, right?

BAD BASEJUMPER, BAD BASEJUMPER! This assembly must be IMMEDIATELY pulled from service and checked by a person knowlegable with fabric ph testing. IT IS NOT AIRWORTHY AT THIS TIME! It is not a faa or anything else duty but the owner has made a GRAVE MISTAKE. This is the worst thing that can happen to a rig, any place suspect might have to be cut out and replaced. Not kidding around with this one do not jump it! Take it apart and store in separate bags and get it tested, before using again. The owner might lose a rig but not the use of the body when the canopy partially separates from the ( insert failure mode here) and breaks' his neck!

Cant find your packing clamps? You could just use 4 batteries and place them on top of the folded canopy to keep your packjob nice and neat. I also find it easy when in the field and dont have a packing weight to pull my car onto the top of the rig to keep it from moving. It sure does keep all the lines nice and taught.

http://books.google.co.uk/...PWHpFXuOFqjs4j4HAUoA

From Dan Poynter's 'THE PARACHUTE MANUAL' (see bottom right 'Acid'), THE most essential rigger's guide on the planet...

'Live and learn'

J.

hopefully not the same packjob,in that case he should buy beers no matter if its a skydive thing or not..

the battery look clean through,but not a thing i would use as a weight..i would preffere a nude hot babe

Insert Triax T-Stake Here.....


Kenyon
www.triaxproductions.com

Sure, if I didn't have a 100 other things to do first. Actually wouldn't take all that long after getting the inital concentrate out safely. Put it in a laundry sink, stick tubing in one cell, open the others and let it run for an hour. Test the water coming out with pH paper. Remember "Water to acid it never placid"

Hmmmm, I don't have any car batteries but I do have a motorcycle battery. May have to try it.

Whats the big deal. Mybe his rig and canopy are made of wool.
I ve alway's used car batteries for weights and im fine

why did it take so long for someone to point out the error of his ways?

who jumps with him?

does he have friends?

If you can't find 4 batteries, you can always stop by and get a few containers of pool chemicals I have in the shed.

just use tent stakes. cheaper, smaller, lighter, and more secure!

hi spacy tracy, why such an uncool statements? to me it seems that this is one of the least expensiv ways to get not only a vented canopy but a vented rig too ;-) Bernhard

btw: how are you? living still south of munich? drop me a private mail.

This is the best info for the “Battery guy” IMHO. The scary thing is as I mention before is that (putting it all over the packing area and other people’s packing mats and this was even worse.). If someone dumped their rig on some acid spillage……He does need some slack though because he didn’t know and had not seen the damage it can do. I will try to get the photo of the harness damage.
Which brings up the point of “Who is your rigger for your BASE gear? You need a rigger to inspect your gear if you do not know about harness designs and failures, wear points on the entire sytem that could compromise the integrity of your one canopy rig.
take care,
space

 

I don't think so. I think I learned it from a jeans falling apart working on my car also.

You might as well throw it away and buy a new one! The rig, not the battery!
Or maybe just wash your rig in battery acid, then leave it in the rain for a day or so, then go ahead and jump it! Darwins waiting to talk to you!

Dont even put a rig in the trunk of your car or bed of your truck if a battery has ever been in it! And how would you know if a battery was ever in it unless its a brand new car and your the first owner...boy, I feel sorry for anyone who ever packed NEAR this guy!

This is "THE STUPIDIST THING I'VE EVER HEARD OF!"

slack?
You must be joking.
Granted you do need the advice of a rigger once in a while but i am sure (if 283 is your base number) you realize and have realized long ago that this is not skydiving. This is almost common sense. Everybody at some stage between the ages of 5 and 10 was told not to touch the battery because it makes holes in your clothes...
I'll say it again, when people come up with things like this, you've just got to drop your arms, crack a beer, sit on the case and cry...
poc

You should have squatted and taken a shit on his rig just to emphasize the point more so.

I've got this nasty image in my mind of Spacey Tracy hunkered down, beer in hand, straining as he backs one out into some poor ignorant twat's rig.

you would be doing a great public service to tell us who this individual is ,so that those of us who have had contact with this asshole can properly reward his dumbass behavior.

Battery thats nothing I once used a dead dog I found on the side of the road. it took weeks to get the smell out
besides who cares if some one uses a battery, as a packing weight .I personaly
would encurage such behavior. That way u can take there car on a Base jump after they burn in and take there money and drugs

Battery schmattery. They're for pussies. I have personally used a stack of anti personal land mines before, a monkey(watch out for your keys, wallets and sunnies they could go missing) and my least favorite, Ray Losli.
That's right folks, I once used Ray as a packing weight. It was meant to be this cute red head with great tits but Ray chased her off with all this talk about himself and his "Soft cock". Using Ray as a packing weight has it's drawbacks though. You tend to pack 3 times faster cutting tons of corners just so you can finish and not have to listen to him. Then there's also the that ringing in your ears that sounds a lot like Ray's voice. That's hard to shake and can be disconcerting when you jump. All in all the battery seems pretty benign to me. Go for it.
Hey Ray. Youre a big softie.

i think they are talking about packing weights, not canine necrophelia...but i may be incorrect.

i used to do that until some rotten asshole split on me.

 

jerk

Awwwww Matt you poor dumb bastard, You don't realize it at the time but ME, being that I'm your best mate. I was Really doing a HUGE Favor.
I chased off that cute little Red-Head. With those Great Tits you had arranged for a Packing Weight. Rumors had it that she contracted a Raging S.T.D. from your Sister. .....
Anyway I think that I was not planning to be used as your Packing Weight. I just think I had to sit-down for a moment because of the HeadSpins I was getting from all the bad Junk we scored & abused BASE jumping the night before.
DUDE ! Seems that the white powder we found. Was Really just cable corrosion.
That fell off the Car Batteries we were using as Packing Weights. .....
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When maggot goes in I know I'll be using his dead body as packing weight as long as it does not bleed too much. Dried out blood is awfully hard to get cleaned up.

And by the way, what the big fuzz about using a battery as packing weight? From the pic it looks like a clean, modern, leak-proof battery and even if it was leaking a little "acid" , that might actually give you some deep insights about the jump.

next time get the drugs from me and u will feel like a super star. how the hell do u think I get by happy, spouting all the shit that comes out of my mouth all the time. its all the really good drugs!!!!!!
And cornish I think I would make a fantastic packing weight. as a matter of fack u guy's should have me stuffed when I go in and give me out as trophy at the Iron man BASE competition. a dead maggot as a bear hold and packing weight, that can't talk. What could be better.

Go screw off on your own threads guys, please. If it's not about what the title of the thread says, go get your own. is this too much to ask? I got my thread, go get yours.
Thanks in advance you thread splitters.
take care,
space

sorry

You are a jerk Tracy. And what is wrong with a bit of acid huh?

Now, the canopy may not appreciate that fact that acid is one of the three big no no's, but the jumper won't mind when he gets a hard opening and the canopy falls apart. Should make great video too.

This should be funny. BASE jumpers don't use reserve canopies because they don't need them, but they start using a reserve harness when it falls apart on opening. We should start a contest to see who can work out the cutaway / transfer system first.

Luv your work.

And if he still thinks you're a jerk, just tell him that I agree!!!!

I am surprised the other people actually let him near them. Sounds like a lot of people know stuff all about taking care of gear. Those were happy days Spacy.

p.s. you have done the right thing. It is up to the others to respond.

She better not be leaking. No telling what drugs she has been taking (Acid) and how well her body has absorbed it. Don't get her too excited. And DONT" let her sit naked on the rig.....

yeah - they all shoot video and want the money shot!!!!

ANY good looking babe can sit naked at my harness as weight while im packing anyday

Space i dont think people are killing your tread,i think most if not all in this tread has agreed whith you,using a car battery as weight while packing might not be the best thing to do,if the fella dont understand it from here.. oh well dont give it more energy,just make sure your not arround while he bust himself up..