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I might be interested. Do you have a date in mind? I know there's no way I would win, but at least I should be able to finish ahead of Abbie.

I'm in.

make it 21-29 april and I'm there

and someone invincible too...

Oh and you should be able to finish ahead of Peter and Adam since they wouldn't be showing up for their first jumps until some time after noon.

i'd be in. i'd be good for at least two.

but, i probably won't be back from shitville until september.

Im totaly there for the april thing we should have swooping your base canopy, as well and, time how fast your climb out is. and no is aloud to do speed, but me.
I'll bring cheer leaders, easy cheer leaders. so we can all
get something ,after the competition.

 

just as long as Miles cant make it he will kick all of our buts but say when and Illl be there I love alittle spelling compitition

Will you include swimming?

How will you avoid packing errors? Will you consider a mandatory pin- and three-ring check before exit?

How will you avoid high cutaways or dangerous swoops?

 

That to me seems like the only rules should be... don't be stupid. Yeah, that's a dumb rule but it's realistic.

Packing errors.. you should see how some people pack and have for 10 years withough incident. How do you determine an error besides it malfunctioning?

Flying to the base of the climbout intentionally is pretty dangerous as well so no intentionally landing in the rocks.

I would almost suggest that if at all possible land in the big landing area to avoid low deployments and short canopy rides. However, that's kinda tough sometimes too. I use a slider if I'm jumping all day, I've had real short rides using a 2 second delay so hmmmmm... ponder that for a while.

Cutting away unless you are in the trees, injured or going to drown is plain stupid so that one fits in the don't do stupid things category.

Edit: Gear checks are a very good Idea

That's my initial 2 cents. Perhaps I'll work my way up to 4 or even 6 as time passes.

 

Sweet! Thanks for giving me a chance to plug... http://www.dropzone.com/...um.cgi?post=1864714;

Love you Abbie!

Jaap

Most of us mortals should be looking at this day as a marathon and not a sprint. Pacing oneself will be the key. Having lot's of food and water available between packing, jumping and hiking. Sure someone might be able to save a little time by landing closer to the climbout. But are they really going to save that much time?

The most I've ever climbed out was 4 maybe 5 times and I think the most jumps I've made there in one day was 7 or 8 (the time Oscar and I first met you and Sammer). So my goal if I was to do this IronBASE day would be 7 maybe 10 jumps (if I'm in shape) and who knows if I could even do that many? But pacing oneself and staying hydrated is the key. Cutting corners isn't going to save you that much time (at least for us mortal jumpers).

So what you're saying is the don't be stupid rule is in affect?... No?

[replyHow about a buy-in and prize money?
Or a way to make this a charitable event?

I think that a buy-in Charity event of sorts is a great idea...
Do something good for Twin Falls as well as hold a competition.
Here's my spin on it...
Charge a minumum $150 fee to enter the contest. Get people to promise to sponsor jumpers on a per jump basis A good model to look at is "Jump for the Cause'. The jumpers pledged to get at least $2500 in donations to participate.
Net proceeds go to a charity or organization in Twin, meaning most of the funds. But some can be set aside for plaques or trophies or cash prizes.
Maybe have awards for displaying good skills such as most standup landings in a certain area, most on heading openings, etc.

Just a few thoughts before I head to bed....

Jason
570

NOICE!

Problem is if I don't dope myself, Maggot is going to tear me apart! Or maybe I just drop some LSD in his coffee before the competition; that'll make it for an interesting day!

Few more rules...

Landing target. This serves three purposes: accuracy under canopy, avoiding landing close to the base of the climb out, and everyone will start the climb-out from the same location.

Swoop should be considered not in term of "distance"(pain in the ass to set up the gates, measuring distance and such) but more in term of hook turns (front risers only), let say a 90 will subtract you 1 minute, a 180 2 minutes, and so forth.

Aerials...You must give extra points for aerials...

So you can have: aerial -1min (3 gainers = -3 min), on heading opening -1, 90 swoop -1, hitting the target -1, stand up -1, and so forth.

Here is how it could work. You made 20 jumps. The average climb-out is 10 minutes/jump without any points. You have -30 minutes in stuff so that equals to 3 extra jumps hence the grand total is 23 jumps.

I am in, Abbie, whatever the rules are. what are the dates?

To keep it as real as possible, all IronBASE competitors will be required to drink until they vomit beginning at 11pm the night before the competition.

Hell YES!

If we include a good swimming segment (say, you have to swim back to centennial park after every jump) I stand a good chance of being crowned "World's Best BASE Jumper" on the strength of my swimming skills.

It's all about stacking the competition to your own strengths, baby.


Can we throw in an elevator hot-wiring event, too?

A wise(ass) man once said, "Aerials are so 90's."

Abbie, i'd definitely be up for it. And when you factor in all the swimming i'll inevitably be doing, even YOU could beat me! I think making it a charity event would be great. We can always stand to do a little brown-nosing toward the good people of TF... especially now that they have to live with you on a full-time basis.

For real though, my money is on Baxter. That man climbs like a mountain goat on crack. Just don't get stuck behind him on a Huevos Rancheros morning.

-Brandy

Thanks for the plug Brandy!

We do need a rule about weather. I.e. an 'official' weather person to make a 'competition on' or 'competition off' decision both before an during the event so the winner is not the person who jumps in the worst conditions if winds pick up and half the competitors decide not to jump.

Just my $.02

Baxter.

if i were there i would call it a must to use to boat out.. its a BASe competition not a climbinh competition..

I would kick your arse if i could be there..

Climbs like a mountain goat on crack but drinks like a junior high girl with a wine cooler!

Don't worry. The mandatory competitors' drink-til-you-puke the night before will slow him down.

Sweet... I'll just puke by 7:00 PM by drinking a Syrup of Ipecac cocktail, then renourish until 11:00.

It's in the bag

I like your idea Jason, charitable

Whatever we decide, I'm in. Just make sure its in May or later so I can be all healed up.
I shall train daily and drink nightly to prepare. Jack Daniels will become the new top secret fuel of champions.

Sounds like a good time.

If it weren't for my low jump numbers and horrendously slow packing. . . . .I would gladly show up and kick all your asses! Especially Mr. Cornishe himself and that pushover Collin. And yeah yeah I know, I'm the guy with the sore knee blah blah blah.

. . . .summer of 07' count me in Abbie.

Cheers,

J.P.

I have a name for the competition......

--------The Tom Manship Memorial IronBASE Invitational----------

I though it was appropriate since this is what Tom did everyday there

Maybe the proceeds could go to a fund in Tom's name that helps to keep the park clean or something like that.


Oh, I just thought of another idea for the competition. Why not have a side catagory for most trash hauled out of the bottom. This would be a nice gesture

Jason
570

I second that.

BWAHAhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Look, we're BASE jumpers, so scale it down a bit!

I have a better idea lets take all the prize money. And spend it on Blow and hookers and after the meat have a big party, that way everyone has fun, and gets laid.
if thats the plan ill pick up all the trash before the comp.

Awesome idea, Maggot! Let's make our own Event. No competition, no rules, no judges, no charities. Just pure fun. Life without any limits!

Let's call it "Maggot's Independence Day"... or maybe "Maggot's BASE Jihad". Every July 4th weekend.

Yuri

Yuri
that sounds alot like everyday for me.I mean the total I do not give a flying F- thing. and Besides if people didn't make rules I couldn't have fun breaking them Derka Derka. by the way thursday ill bring the party
S-/ bring your rig winds might be good /and dont get drunk /u might have to cary me to the exit point.
i'm never sober after 11am.

I have a large camo backpack just for that purpose. C-ya @ Puck!

Abbie came over for dinner last night and we discussed this and did a bit of planning. It looks like this is going to happen. We're guessing that it will be Labor Day weekend, rather than Memorial Day weekend, because it will give us a better shot at an all-day weather window.

I'll post our draft of ideas when I get a chance.

How about a couple kegs of beer so everone can share the winnings .

That too, but I suggest getting your ass in shape. I don't know about you but I plan to do at least one jump per hour.

>>Ha! You'll never beat me at that rate Tim. I'm the greatest athlete in the world!

yeah yeah, i actually am in shape. Might i suggest for you to get younger . i plan to do 1.0714 jumps per hour.

I love the idea of the Tom Manship Memorial Iron BASE Competition. And although the idea of some of the fund going to keeping Centennial Park cleaned up and in good repair is a good one, I think the money could be used to higher purpose, such as a children's educational program. I'm all for giving the kids all the help we can, especially in education, health, and general welfare. TF is basically a small community with farming and ranching as the basis of the economy (Tom correct me as you know way more about TF) so there isn't as much money to spare for children's welfare as in a more urban setting. Centennial Park is well maintained in general, and since our future is the children in 15-20 years I think the proceeds would be better spent there. Besides, as BASE jumpers grateful for the freedom of jumping the Perrine I feel it's OUR duty to clean up the park at the end of the day. I've spent many sunsets gathering cans and trash and tidying up the Park before pulling out.

The registration and pledge amounts seem high at $150 and $2500; maybe $50 to register and whatever you can get for per jump pledges would allow more people to participate.

Also, keeping in mind that we are doing this as a memorial and benefit, hopefully guys won't be killing themselves to win the trophy. Being safe and having fun are the most important aspects; the money raised and how that's spent is secondary, and winning the trophy is just the gravy on the Idaho mashed potatoes.

BASE competitions always tend to make me nervous as I'm afraid the young, bulletproof set is likely to lose sight of how dangerous BASE jumping is. Maybe participants should meet certain jump requirements to keep it safe and sane.

Just my .02 cents which is worth about 2 cents.

Peace,
Karen

I was also thinking that a potion of the donation could be to the local S&R, or maybe the local ER.

Local SAR doesn't take donations. However, the Life Flight operation that runs critically injured BASE jumpers to the regional trauma center in Boise does. You can also get a membership, which in addition to being handy if your insurance won't pay up, is a good way to provide ongoing support.

More information here. Memberships can be purchased here.

 

I must not have explained myself very well since you and Russel mistook what I meant.

The $150 was just a suggestion for a pledge goal. I used the $2500 reference as just that, a reference. I was just stating that that is what the women on 'Jump for the Cause' must come up with. I know BASE jumpers are poor so thats why I threw out the LOW amount of $150. Although why not dream big... why are we any different than them?

Any charity in my mind would be good as long as it's a charity and not a business that uses the charity persona to fatten the owners pockets .

Keep the ideas flowing.....

Abbie, Tom, let me know how I can help out

Jason
570

Ok I have a few more ideas...

How about a gear auction to raise money?

Or how about we ask for people or companies to 'sponsor' a BASE jumper by donating something like $50 or $100. This will 'buy' them free ad space on the jumper of their choice for a set # of jumps. The ad space can be a simple t-shirt with their name or logo on it. I'm sure if we send out a few press releases it will be covered by the media and that will in turn bring companies looking to get exposure at the event.

Just thinking......

 

I have a question. I'm not sure how many jumps I'll have come time but is there going to be a jump # requirement to be able to participate? Even if I am not allowed to, I would still be willing to raise $ per jump for any of the Houston crew that attends.

Crap, if nothing else I'm sure Brit could use someone to fan her down in between jumps.

Nothing is set in stone yet, but I don't think so.

I don't think they can stop you from jumping, just from competing. doesn't that bridge still host death-camps?

hopefully, they'll consider some sort of catagories. it sounds like a great way to challenge people, but I can't compete against Miles.

Uh...yeah. But that would be the point of the trip for me...not to "compete" but to help raise money...if it takes me hiking out a couple times and that's all I can do..oh well..at least I helped a good cause.


Not sure, I already attended mine locally


Is it really about the competition anyway?

Why does everyone feel that if they compete they must win or have a shot at it? Sheesh, men.

 

uh, yeah, it's in the name.

well...
um...
uh...
ooh, something cool is coming on the t.v.!
gotta go!

I agree, Abbie. And to avoid any confusion, let me say that I wasn't asking "will you tell me if conditions are appropriate for my level?". I read the word "invitational" in an earlier post. I could show up at the GoFast games with 20 base jumps and say "Oh yeah, I'll be fine..." but that's also why they have a 100 jump minimum. With you guys organizing it, I didn't know if you were going to put a minimum experience rule into affect for the competition.


classic.




*Edited to add: I do understand that RG is a lot more technical than TF, and also requires an invitation, but I was just using it as an example.

true.

while the Go Fast RG event is an "invitational," this event seems more like an "open" event. and if you are trying to raise money, why limit the number of competitiors?

That's a really good point that is completely lost on the skydiving community, unfortunately. I think it is just as applicable there as in BASE.

Understood.

So now I will crawl back into my corner and go with another previous post:


YES.

She quoted me!!! She quoted me!!!!

WOO HOO!!!

well, if I can attend, I hope the rule is, ah, generously applied!

Pity you can't spell. It should be "effect" .

The spelling is accurate. Affect is simply the wrong word.

Touché.

Bitch.

If we are going to do this event with raising money for a (any) charity, do we need to set up a nonprofit org. that would handle the donations and distribution of monies to the selected charity (s)? To prove that everything is on the up and up and there is some accountability.

Because if anyone did get a corporate sponsor for this, that group would want the tax write off, and I assume would want to make sure their money reached its intended benefactors.

just a thought,

nic

 

I would pick a charity in Twin Falls, anything to keep showing the community how much we appreciate being able to jump the bridge, and to show Twin and other cities that BASE jumpers are an asset to their community.
~J

Fortunately, that's already been done.

Parachutes for Kids is a local charity established by jumpers to help disabled children locally. I don't see why we couldn't just donate to them. Alternately, we could donate to any number of other local charities.

GREAT!! I already have a few friends who will donate IF the money goes to kids. They also said they will come and help out the jumpers during the event. Bologne sandwiches, bottles of water, etc. I really dont want a publicity stunt, I want to raise money for those who need it IN the TF area. A thank you, a really big thank you.

nic