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I am looking to buy a tracking suit... and want some opinions on the best suits there are out there...
I have flown the phoenix suit but thats it... does anybody know what suits are being flown in the "into the mountains" and "virtus" films on skydivingmovies?

i read that some of those were homemade... i have a bit of experience building homemade tracking suits, but not much.

I am also looking for some coaching... i want to someday get 2/1... will travel.
any help/ideas?

Travel to Karskland. Seriously. If you want to learn to track like them, why not go jump with them?

Try flying Prodigy's bottom half. It's like tracking on Viagra!

Yuri

thats the plan...

Im sure 95 percent of this is skill. therefore only time and practice will prove the desire.

If you track while on Viagra, wouldn't that inhibit your aerodynamics ? Everybody says that bellycams hurt your glideratio. How would tracking on Viagra be any different ?

dammit! im serious!
Im telling!!!!


TOM!!!!! ban this guy!!!

I was thinking of taking out the Prodigy bottom half with the PF jacket. Did you take the bottom half out of a plane or off an object ( how high ) ? What angle would you say it flys at ?

Steep. I've skydived with a guy doing that. He was hauling ass in both directions.

 
If the Prodigy route isn't for you, perhaps consider Matter's track suit.

http://www.matterclothing.com/...tracer_tracksuit.htm

whoa! cool! the matter suit looks sick! who has flown it? i wanna hear about it

Plane, helicopter, balloon. I only recorded one flight with GPS and got 1.15 glide ratio with about 140mph horizontally. While wingsuits feel 'lifty', Prodigy pants feel 'thrusty'.

matt why dont u look at a cuple of suits an than do what every other base manufacturer does RND rip off and develope my body spent all that money on a phionex suit so we went to wall mart and made asuit for 25 bucks you cant tell the differance except for the hundreds of dollars he spent

Using the pants of the prodigy or the matter setup, gives you drag and therefore lift. Some of us have tried wearing those type of pants with our own jackets, (the ones with rope from thumb to thumb)
and it works ok, but not near as good as the home made. Because the pants are just to big, creating to much drag to go "superterminal"
It is a well balanced setup, but I could imagine that with just a regular jacket you will go to steep, and would have to control it with wider arms.
The jumper filming the 3 way in " Virtus" at 02:50 is wearing this setup and he is starting to fly earlier the the others, but dont have a chance in keeping up the speed of me and Espen. And the speed is whats making us fly..
I would recommend that since you already have a phoenix setup, put ropes in them, stretching and fixing the arms and legs, like seen on Espen in the same clip. Pause it just after the exit, and youll see. He`s been wearing that setup for two years, and its just a sporting 0-p jacket and regular hiking pants with ropes/bungee in them, and has been the nr. one tracker here for a long time, but he got out flown and "gave up" the tracking, and started to fly wingsuits again, and is now nr. one there..(Well after Loic of course..)
But nothing flies it self, keep practicing from airplanes, without any type of tracking gear sometimes, but with the right position and techniqe to get the right feel with the air. Go jump with freeflyers, tracking jumps, very good practice!
If you the wear a tracking setup, using the same technique, you should go into superterminal!

If you are interrested in some "coaching", Karskland have the right mountains and the right people. Many helpfull and good trackers here.

There are also some interesting things happening in Karskland when it comes to rig design and tracking outfits.. Hopefully some demo suits will be ready for the big wall season.. And maybe a rig..

Peace out brothers and sisters,
VKB

www.pressurized.at

Basjkall could you possibly try posting pictures of yours and maybe Esbens set if thats possible. So we can get a change of seeing your modifications.. I think it would be very helpfull to a lot of people.. Including me.-

i think, the VKB set up is amazing and is the best for superterminal tracking. but what i can see in the vid´s, they need a lot of speed to get their set up flying like a rocket. what about lower jumps and subterminal tracking?! i don´t think their set up will work very efficient for a 600 ft cliff?! right?!

i´ve also heard that the guys at pressurized are coming up with new products (tracking suit and wingsuit) the next few months.

i would buy a set up, which works for everything!

DRU

For sub terminal and small terminal walls, the best choice would be lots of drag: wingsuit and phoenix pants etc. We are just super lucky to have walls where we can go steep and build speed for 500-600 feet or more..

Ciao poco locos

lucky norwegian bastardos...

I see that people are experimenting with the Prodigy legwing (without the armwing). I would like to say following:

Phoenix-Fly does not recommend using the Prodigy legwing on its own because it could cause unstable head low exits (due to lack of lift from upper body).

If you wish to ignore the manufacturers advice make sure you practice extensively from the aircraft before taking it to the cliff.

I watched the VKB boys in action last year at the Heli Boogie together with the Kjerag locals and some of the OZ boys too. For both groups I can say that they are master trackers and are really pulling 100% from their pants, regardless of the type they have. Distance and precision are definitely related to their equipment but much more to their skill.

The VKB boys have the unique opportunity on this planet because of the cliffs they have in their home yard. In northern Norway the cliffs allow a different tracking style than in other places. The ''Energy management'' is different, the high vertical walls allow you to dive and build huge amounts of speed before you plane out to fly down thousands of feet of steep talus.

In the rest of Europe, jumpers are forced to use little bit different technique, that also suits a different set up. There is many ways to get good results. Each set up has its pros & cons. Bottom line is to get used to the set up you use and get the experience before doing such demanding jumps.

Good luck to all

Less than 50 bucks at Wal*Mart and a sewing machine will make you the best suit money can buy!

However it takes some skills and lots of patience...if you have neither I stand behind Robi's products.

These walmart setups have worked the best for me as well, I got laughed off my dropzone with one. but then i let somebody try it and they offered to buy it from me.

Would it be totally impossible to post a picture of one of your 50 dollar wallmart suits, so us not so creative people have an idea of what you are bying and what you are doing to make it into a track suit.. I would realle appreciate that...

Sorry about my english..

Here ya go.

The Jacket also has the "Norwegian" swoop cord.

I have two pants, the one in the pic have intakes running the whole length of the inside inseam. The other pair have two smaller intakes on the sides of the legs.

It takes me at least 8 hours of butching and sewing to make the suit. If I had to charge for it, it would end up costing like Robi's suit! And in the end even if I'm very pleased with the performance, it's still a made-in-China, butched-up suit!

That's a pretty high wage for tailoring work! Hopefully it's got somewhat comparable durability, but you can only expect so much out of those materials.

No doubt

The Jacket will last. A hard landing on the pants...I don't know. On one pair I put cordura knee pads, just in case!

I once through together a Walmart pair of smoke pants, and they blew out (one of the seams along the leg exploded) about 3 seconds down, throwing me into a nice spiral.

If those executives at Wally World just knew what we do with their products they'd probably invest some money in quality control

Thanks for posting pics.. That gave me some ideas.. Just no´t shure if I have the seewing skills for making it...

how come those crapy pants are not purple may be if u wre wearing those last night you wouldn't have flown into the tree. By the way these pants dont stear them selves and aparently neither does nitro
but. ps they are built well and atleast he made them on his own. For god sakes what would we do if we couldn't spend shit loads of money on gear ; ow ya we would just skydive like every other putz.Nitro I thank you for have some vision, and not being just another QVC consumer

Are you drunk?

Sure, when FF a 240, those pants really give you lots of separation

Hey Maggot,

Talking about gear, this is something you might want to invest in, so next time you try to cross a river in the middle of the winter you won't drown like you almost did last night

nitro
I'm wondering if u land in a tree does it count as a hole base jump if not. then u only have half the jumps u claim. by the way if i hadent gone in the drink i would have gotten your tarp that night. so for now on ill bring the ropes to get u out of the trees and u bring the life vest to keep me from drowning.
by the way that pic was really funny
Ps why does every one always think im drunk Im sober every once in a while. just never while im posting on the forum.

Actually it counts as two: 240-100 = 140' FF S and a 100' T (as for tree) Where's my log book? Oh right I don't have one


EZactly, I got 1/2 jump


The Ace is got too long lines for TARD overs off cliffs


Deal!


Because they don't really know you!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

I just shared this with the Wingsuit Forum.

BASE jumpers should learn to share more.

Hey, I let you use my pants for a summer!