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well what ever happened to jumpers using their BASE numbers to show who they are while posting?
i know i've been out of the digital age for a bit but this is ridiculous. are you all ashamed of what you've earned? or if you haven't earned it yet working on it. hey maybe your one of those that "doesnt care". whatever man.
i earned mine a long time ago and i'm damn proud of it.it is something that no one can ever take away from me. you all have balls while standing at the exit point but dont have any sitting in front of a computer keyboard? in this age of electronic media no one can say "well i didnt know where to go"
i am going to ask the organizers of bridgeday to enforce a base number in the minimum requirements to jump. we'll see who wants one then. maybe we should impose those minimums to jump at the perinne and moab too. both site although legal aren't necessarily the safest for new jumpers.
signed proudly
BASE509

Having a BASE number doesn't mean you are a safer jumper. There have been plenty of people, myself included, who got their BASE number before they were really ready for it. Making site access depend on BASE numbers will only lead to more people being hasty in getting it, resulting in more accidents.


I've put my number in as "Student 1018" because I like to post under my real name. I think most people aren't necessarily ashamed of what they earned, they just don't think it's that big of a deal.

FWIW, there are many incredibly experienced and skilled BASE jumpers out there without a number. It doesn't make them less of a jumper.

Furthermore, BASE 1057 is the real wanker and he doesn't deserve that number! Hahaha, just kidding, congrulations bro!

I don't think he was trying to harsh on people who use their real name instead of their number. It seemed more aimed at people who make anonymous posts.

And, 509, I still remember who got me my number. If it wasn't for you and GoWayLow, I'd probably still be BASE nothing.

I wouldn't take BASE509's post that seriously (or anything on this forum for that matter), but he does make a good point. If you qualify for a number, but think it's cool to not get one, then you are cheating yourself out of something special.

Obtaining a BASE number is a reward bestowed upon a person for years of hard work. It's an elite club that only a thousand people have ever joined. Plus, there are 72 virgins waiting for you once you join!!!

PS. Kramer is a wanker.

Oh my...

If Joe were here posting in this thread with you, my life would be complete.

<nudges Jason> Don't tell people not to take him too seriously. Just make him write a whole new set of BD rules for discussion.

rl

P.S. You're a nag. I'm just a little slow this week...but I'll never be as slow as you are.

Funny thing is that only people whith a # says so..

By theese days you can for get about that,people get a BASE # whith in a year usaly not whith much experience,only to have the #... Even some of the old timers did the same

Cheers,i never knew that i were a part of the elite

My whish

A BASE# is a personal thing,some people dont borther,others just want the # others want all the #´s they can get...


AARRGGGHH bummer My name is Stefan Faber,im an BASEoholic My # is 850,and im happy about that

Yo!

I wonder if anyone got a Nick's number while (or rather, because) trying to get a BASE number.

Personally, I hate numbers.

Yuri

that's not much of an incentive, I'd prefer a partner with skills.

I agree with kramer. However there are so many people who don't care about numbers and don't bother to get a base number nowadays. Having base # something like 1300 pretty much that you are more like the 2000th or more person to have jumped all 4 objects. Base #s simply don't hold that much meaning to people anymore. Proud of mine though and would be way more proud if it was under 100.
Shane McConkey Base # 612

Wow.

You'd think someone who's "earned" his number a long time ago wouldn't have such a narrow view on what the sport/life is about.

Anyone can get a basenumber. It takes 4 jumps to get one. It says NOTHING however about who you are as a jumper/person, how you behave yourself, how you treat other people, your ethics etc etc. In other words it says nothing about the things that REALLY MATTER.

I hope you are trolling or drunk because otherwise you haven't got a clue. Laff!

Pretty Harsh criticism. I do Not have a BASE #
I just use my plain birth name when posting. I guess I just don't feel like this BASE Zone.com is a place I need to use as a secret hideout.
I am not ashamed to have a BASE Number. I just do not ask for one. It's called freedom of Choice.
I do not ask for a BASE Number. Just like I do not ask for Free-Fall Badges. For completion of hours of Freefall, 4-way, 8-way or anything else in Skydiving. Just happy to jump and to BASE jump. Just happy to have Friends all over the world that I have BASE jumped with.
Pretty Simple. It is just a personal Choice. Freedom of choice and to do what you want. That is what BASE jumping is all about.
BASE is personal choice and I personally don't feel I have to ask for Anything to, Just Belong.
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Looks like someone else needs to be handed a clue!
It was a pleasure for you to meed me!

Yes I need a clue on how to decipher your posts.

Nothing to do with cool. I am not against numbers at all. I just don't want one. There are too many other numbers in life. Name, rank, serial number sir. License, pension, food bar line, bank account, employee, etc. No need for another and no need to be branded.

I have left a mark on this sport (building kick off about ten years ago as well as some gnarly landing imprints ), and I don't need a number to validate my existance in the sport. I am also recorded as a part of the sports history. We all are.

BASE####

Well, Bruce, it seems that even after all this time, you haven't lost your touch.



rl

Here we go!

BASE 576
Night BASE 123
Swedish BASE 2

(Can I still get a EC number?)

PerFlare
Swedish BASE Team

Then you are nobody.


The name must be fake.

You look like a BASE jumper i know. Must've killed him and stole his face, punk!

bsbd!

Yuri.

Thank goodness I read your post before I followed through on that...so, a tattoo is sufficient then?

"You look like a BASE jumper i know. Must've killed him and stole his face, punk! "
bsbd!
Yuri.
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Maybe you are correct ?
Maybe that is why Every Time, I step out on the edge to Exit.
I feels like my very First BASE jump all over again.
Yuri who ? What did you say your name was ? You No-#, Punk ! .....
Hey (got idea) if I kill you. Can I have your name. Then put a BASE # to it ?
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IM JUST GETTING STARTED!!!! AGAIN PROUDLY BASE509

I had B, S & E completed for 16 years before I bothered to get off an A and my number early last year.

An Aussie jumper who has a BASE# earlier than me got his in only 4 jumps and then virtually stopped BASE a few jumps after that.

BASE#'s are primaraly an English-Speaking phenomenom and there's a huge non-English speaking scene with jumpers of the highest calibre (primarily European and Baltic) that don't bother with them. I've heard one estimate that puts the number roughly equal Eng-speaking to non-Eng-speaking BASErs out there.

Not attacking your sentimental lament for the tradition but using the numbers to quantify a person's ability is poor. I'm not from US so it's not my place to comment on any US sites but if a standard is to be implemented then there are better ways. The referee system used by organizers of KL events is much better at honing in on a particular jumpers skills - judgement from our peers.

g.
BASE 985
OzBASE86

garyp:
"BASE#'s are primaraly an English-Speaking phenomenom"
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Hey Gary, BASE -#'s, may have been started by an American & be an American based organization but maybe the reason thought to Need a BASE Number might not be as clear as you think.
I personally don't understand why some choose to put a numerical order to BASE jumping. Clearly some base jumpers choose not to possess one and some BASE jumpers from other parts of the world simply just don't see the need. Also the thought that a BASE number can show any type of competency or quality of BASE skills is Asinine and clearly seen by all participating in out very small sport. I personally think you are being way to restraintive & kind. In your comment of BASE being ..."Primarily an English Speaking Phenomenon."
Possibly the said Need or Possession of a BASE number could be based solely on instinctive human competitiveness. By the Number Givers.
Maybe this said Need & Urgency to number every individual BASE jumper as a Pecking-Order of Rank is just Basic human drive for dominance and the need to be the leader of a group of participants.
Hey !, here's a thought Gary. Maybe it's a need to show the Importance and Simple Validity of that Groups Existence. ( the Number Givers ) By trying to point out. -You are Not Really one of Them.- You are of lesser quality or caliber because you are not in Their Chosen numerical order- ( By You ) a BASE jumper. Asking this (self proclaimed) Dominant Group For their Acceptance. By You Choosing to Let Them put -You- a BASE jumper in, Their Special Group.
Under the disguise of, If you Don't get a BASE-#, You are not going to be documented as a Authentic BASE jumper in writing. Recorded In the make-believe, Big-Book of World BASE- History. Without that BASE-# . While continuing to spout Some fucking Self-Rightious Bullshit, Guilt Trip of, You are a Parasite and a Thief for daring to BASE jump without a BASE-#. Because -ALL That is BASE- Was built on skills and Knowledge of jumpers before you in BASE past. Now you're made to feel like Jumping without an Assigned-# is Ignorant and spitting in the face of BASE itself. By Not bowing down and showing the proper Respect and Homage to all before you in the infancy of BASE.
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Hey everybody,

let's not forget that BASE jumping was a much bigger deal ten or twenty years ago.

If you got your BASE number fifteen years ago, even if you only did it in only four jumps, it still meant you were one bad ass motherfucker. It may not have meant that you were a smart guy or a skilled BASE jumper, but it certainly meant you had a certain screw loose in the top of your head that made you pursue a crazy activity.

And that undeniably put you in the ranks of a certain elite. Whether or not you thought you needed a number to prove that doesn't matter much, but certainly you deserved the number.

These days that elite doesn't really exist anymore. BASE is much more accessible and anybody can do it. Take me for example. It's a pretty sad sport if a guy like me can go out and get a BASE number. Furthermore, getting BASE in four jumps is a moronic thing to do these days. You have to be pretty retarded to even try it. Not so 15 years ago. I mean, look at BASE 66. He got his number in four jumps but nobody is calling him on it. In fact, he gets our respect, and truly deserves it.

Why? Because it was a different time.

Maybe the numbers don't mean as much anymore as they once did. But it's just one of many signs that the sport is changing. Does it matter? Only if you're a hopeless romantic that is afraid of change...

Meanwhile a discussion on the value of numbers could be considered pointless. Let people decide for themselves whether or not they want a number and whether or not it means something to them.

I for one am truly disappointed with my number. It isn't prime...

To add to my own post; I wonder what kind of ages we can discern in BASE.

1 to 200 - The Invention. The guys that started it. Rolled the dice much more than today and became true next door neighbours with death.

200 to 850 - The Passion. The guys that saw an underground thing happening and realized this adventure could satisfy a craving no other thing could. Still respectful to their forefathers and the inventors, their ways of the Parachute were similar to the ways of the Samurai.

japp:
"Damn, I'm so full of shit that sometimes I wonder if I should be banned permanently for that reason alone"...
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No shit. I agree. (never with the banned part) but, 1-200 / 200-850 / 850-up. The Invention. Passion& Explosion.
Just another false classification and Labeling of a BASE jumper.
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Only false because I forgot a label...

Hello Ray,

Happy New Year.

I miss the old Portland crew.
They all died with BASE #'s.

God bless you.

Avery
BASE396

..."I miss the old Portland crew.
They all died with BASE."
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Hey, Avery how ya been & happy new-year to you also.
To tell you the truth I really don't ever ask jumpers what there BASE #'s are. Dude I really have a hard time even remembering who or what face is connected to What BASE-#. -All my friends- I just call them by whatever Name they are going by. If a BASE jumper wants to go by a random number that is issued them. Rather than a name made out of Letters of the Alphabet. That's cool to......
Hey I got an Idea ! What we need is some sort of Directory. You know. Kind of like the Phone Book. A name and a number together. That all BASE jumpers have delivered & thrown out of a car window to there Front Door of the house. once a year the way the phone books are distributed here in the States.
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well... base number... they are just numbers, right? it is some fun for some of us, and some don't care.

does it say something about you ability? no. does it say something about your behaviour/mental status/ethics? no. does it have ANY significance: NO.

oh well, wait.

actually, it does. in a country far, far away from the US - they call it "Italia" and shout "Mucho Base" at the exit points - you NEED a base number(if you do not want to jump alone). try take a look at the italian section of the "base board". they do not use names. in this country, you need a number, otherwise they will not talk to you. even on the phone and sometimes at the exit point you are referred to by your number - BASE number, that is. so about 3 years after I finally got my B I applied for the number so I could go play with the boys around here.

Ragazzi, #996 sta scherzando, non mi capire male, p.f.!

Mucho BASE

 
ma che cazzo!? Hai ragione!

Mucho BASE
#880

This goes straight into the nuggets

I will quote you as often as i can.

bsbd!

Yuri.

Clearly, the key to survival is not to get a BASE number.

Hey Ray, does DJ have a BASE number?

I cant belive you get off bashing BASE#´s like that as i rember some screams from the "public" last time i did the same..

but hey im not american,im not Ray L(the known guy whith out a BASE#,but a dirrection to a great place for breakfast´s)

buuu huuu

Ray i know you dont get what i write as i write like sh!t and you read like sh!t ,just to say that i agree whith you

Thanks for letting me farth at your exitpoint leaving Chad and Kaitie behind

..."Hey Ray, does DJ have a BASE number? "
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WOW ! ????, you caught me at a LOSS here. I have ran with that guy and BASE jumped on 3 different Continents with him for 7 years.
I do not KNOW. I Have NEVER asked ?
(let me find out) I will call him and wake him out of bed right now and ask him.
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Hey Flummi. Long toime No see.
flummi:
..."actually, it does. in a country far, far away from the US - they call it "Italia" and shout "Mucho Base" at the exit points - you NEED a base number(if you do not want to jump alone). try take a look at the italian section of the "base board". they do not use names."
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They do NOT use names ? never even call each other by there Name ?
That is Hard Core....
Do the Italians BASE jumpers just put there BASE-# on there Tomb Stones when they Crater-in the Dirt also ?
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Yo Ray, since the Seattle crew doesn't want to jump with me anymore (hint, hint, screw the rain let's jump guys!) can I join the PDX crew?

Will you guys take me? I heard there's a few open slots, you know, with everyone being on vacation and all...

And without your number, you'll fit right in!

Hi Ray,

... regarding the tombstones: italian base jumpers are SO HARDCORE, they simply don't die. So I could not tell you...

For the rest, you better have you number. you can also invent one yourself (like RayLosliBase#1 or so), you might get away with it.

I was just born too late
~J

BASE numbers are a novelty at best. They tell nothing of the jumper's experience. I don't have one, and have been qualified for one for over four years. If I got one now, I'd end up somewhere between 1000 and 1100, right? I have a good number of jumps from objects all over the world and some insane one in a billion experiences. The last thing I need is BASE 1089 (random number) or BASE 519 (also random number) putting my experiences beneath theirs simply because I have a higher number.

You're right about the novelty of having a number. I woulda been well below 100 but got turned away from the Captain and then took the next 18 years off. I had given BASE up but after climbing some of these amazing sites decided that I had to jump off one coincidently getting my number. I don't feel bad for doing it I just regret not doing it back in the 80's... I enjoy the novelty.

Did almost the same thing with my USPA D#. Didn't log for years and had to have a D to be on a record big-way. Mad scramble to take the test and dust off old logs before the attempt.

Kinda like Stanley Hannon says... Tires, Tires, Tires. Don't make ya smell better. Don't make ya look better. But you gotta have 'em.

593

Hey Tom, you could be on to something there.
DJ, finally (that prick) returned my phone call from this morning. Informing me that he never got any BASE-# either.
You think you know somebody & jump with them for years. Then they Drop a Bomb-Shell like that on you. What a piece of Crap he is.....
But Wait !
Hey maybe ( DJ ) has had the right Idea all along. No Numbers but Just using Letters of the alphabet for - Elite BASE Identification.
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Ray, you never answered me. You think I was joking?

(sorry) I kind of thought you were joking. Why the hell would you do that ?
If you move down here. No Vacation excuses used for you. We will just Plain and simple tell everyone in Advance that.
We gona end up Killin You. .....
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(dude this 3-weeks of solid Rain) we are having so far. Is killing me.
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J C Avery (oops, apologies for the blasphemy).

Can't you write a few more words in your posts.

I want a war and peace version of your philosophy.

Yep, me miss too. Will see DW's mum this month as well as SS's.

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Crikey Ray. You are on your anto-globalisation high horse again huh. Before you know it, the BASE member ship cards will come with tracking devices so that the authorities will know if you are ever approaching a questionable BASE site. That way they can wait at the front gate, hit you up with a few taxes (I mean fines), then ruin your arse in a dodgy prison cell with Bubba Butt.

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I now have an identity crisis. What do you call it/me when I have jumped off Buidlings, Antennas, Spans, and Earth? Don't be rude...


I think you may be incorrect Mr Tom. It seems that there is a direct statistical correlation between being an ABA official (esp Pres) or a close ally, and the afterlife. I have already warned Gary C. BTW - your sense of humour is a bit too Oz!!!!!! Someone might get a bit sensitive if you keep that up. Short straws anyone?


This morbid sense of humour is catching.


Classic quote!!!!!! or Nugget!!!!! Onya Mr Faber. Sadly, I understand both of you. Is there something wrong with me???


Ray - can I suggest. . . . . . sending in an application on his behalf!!!!! We did that to an old CRW dog who took us up on our first bigger ways. We made sure that we got a lower number than him and rubbed that in. He was already a World 8 Way CRW Champion and felt he did not need a number to validate him, so we got it for him. You should have seen his face when we presented the certificate to him in front of a larger audience. Priceless!!!!

psst drink some oil,your old and rusty.. oil will make you good..

TVPB:
..."BTW - your sense of humor is a bit too Oz !!!!!! "
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pre-apologies-(Sorry Tom)
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Telling Tom his Humor resembles Oz like humor ? You mean what ?
Dry and Bland with just a Hint of slap/Jab or Back-Hand Complement ?......
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(now back to looking over my shoulder) to see if anyone is Following.
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> ...
> Night BASE 123
> ...
Guess what....?!?!?!?!?
I am Night BASE #124

Hey guys and Japp. This is Rick H not Joy even though Mr. Aiello's son's website insists on calling me Joy even though I post from my Cliffleaper e mail. Sorry Tom, it's my fault since I probably screwed up the first time I registered.
Anyway, CONGRATS to Japp Suter, you summed up the relevance of the numbers pretty well. Mr. Liosi on the other hand, sorry Ray, seems to imply that us "Givers of the Numbers" somehow are the perpetuators of this ridiculous myth that a BASE number or even an earlier BASE number means your a better jumper. We all know that's crazy and I promise, Carl Boenish, Phil Smith and a all of my early BASE jump frinds never even hinted at that meaning. From this post, it seems that good old Ray is the only one seeming to perpetuate the myth that the numbers have anything to do with superiority. Sorry Ray since I don't mean to imply some personal insecurity problem??? Sorry buddy, I'm just f--king w/ ya. I like the fact that some of your posts are great examples of throwing hand grenades into the crowd to enjoy the reaction.

BASE started to catch on with some experienced jumpers partly to get away from the politics hitting the DZ's in the 70's and we would never imply a quality pecking order. Date was the only logical way to issue the numbers in 1981 with only a handful worldwide. As famous as Carl Boenish already was, even when BASE began, he would ALWAYs listen in awe to anyone's first BASE jump story and he always gave the same crazy grin and monotone OOOOO! Anyone who had the guts to throw themselves off of all 4 objects in those days got the full measure of respect since it was the danger and fear that first set BASE apart from every other sport, even skydiving, not how many gainers you could do. We were a close knit communtiy spiritually even if 2 people didn't like each other personally. It's still a great fraternity, but it's not quite the same today wtih thousands of folks doing BASE jumps worldwide.
BUT, Mr. Japp S is right. People that were either dumb or crazy enough to throw themselves off of a building back in the first year of the sport of BASE certainly were the kind of people who seemed to get a huge kick out of looking the reaper in the eye and saying, "I dare you! Skydiving had lost that rush or just wasn't enough. From that standpoint, it is relevant if you experienced all 4 different objects 24 years ago, you had to have a certain psycology that maybe isn't quite as necessary today with so many proven methods and gear. Only thing I want to add to Japp's message about how much crazier and closer to death we were in those days. We had shity gear for BASE, we had no history of what worked best for BASE, but what nearly all of the first 100 or at least the first 50 BASE jumpers had was an average of over 10 prior years and 1000 jumps skydiving. That was a lot of experience and air time in those days. Hell, Carl had approaching 2000 jumps before his first BASE jump. My twin bro Randy and I had 1200 to 1500 about the time of our first Building New Years night 1982. With the gear we had then, we were all lucky we had a lot of skydiving since it gave us a base to figure things out and to invent ways to improve our chances. I think that's why most of us survived, we could react to a screw up using instinct without taking time to think about it.
Anyway, we really love keeping the numbers and I am still very proud to be the last elected Director of the old USBA after Carl died. Joy promises to keep doing most of the work to issue numbers so long as there is still enough jumpers who feel they want to have a direct connection to the original BASE numbers that began with our old buddy Phil S who got #1 in 1981.
Also, it ain't just American. We get as many letterws from outside the US, as inside and plenty of non english speaking folks. It was always Carl's meaning that this was a worldwide honor to jump all 4 objects and like the back of the card says:

"The USBA was founded in 1981 and dedicated to the safety and positive public image of BASE jumpers and BASE jumping throughout the world."

So yes, I'm proud to be a BASE jumper and I like to be able to tell people that I started BASE during the first year BASE 1 was issueed. Even though I started BASE 24 years ago and still jump a few towers and cliffs, I'm by far not as skilled in aerials as most of todays active BASE jumpers. My brother and I were just crazy relative workers who craved more of a rush and happened to be born a couple decades before most of you. Keep it up and Joy and I love these posts since the very controversy shows the numbers still have a lot of worldwide significance. Here's to all my BASE brothers and sisters, number or not, we're all the same at that magic second on the edge aren't we?
Joy says just keep those cards and letters coming in. I love the stories.
Rick Harrison
Since we're into numbers,
BASE 38
Night BASE 13
Train BASE 5 (Also called HOBO BASE by Phil Smith)
Night Half Dome 2
TWOP jump #1. (ASK AIELLO what a TWOP jump is.)
D-3736
NSCR 634
Finally, Freak Brother #97.

I'll say that the TWOP is the most insane thing I've seen in a long time. That's including some of the things my Marines did in combat. NUTS!!!

I would love to hear about "Train/HOBO Base"

How'd you get a train on top of a building or antenna?

I remember seeing the vid and talking to Kevin V about doing that train jump. 26-ft lopo, wasn't it?

What was his train number?

Skypuppy
BASE 92

Great post Rick. That antenna jump you, your brother, and I made last time I saw you was a blast (pun intended). I still think about that jump and the fun we were having up there on top of the world. You guys rock. Hope to jump with you again soon.

Hey hey hey, I (moi) personally don't have any hate toward anybody owning a BASE number. I was just trying to give that dipshit Wanker-509 a hard time.
(509) HE'S the one proposing that BASE-#'s should be a Proposed Minimum Requirement for the opportunity to do a BASE jump. while also Obviously attacking the Manhood and Moral Integrity of a BASE jumper Without a BASE-#.... HE'S the Wanker !
Like You. I am also proud to be a BASE jumper. Even though I never considered ever obtaining a BASE-#
(please read opening thread post) - So dude after reading that Faber like Post. Anything is fair game for my eccentric ranting.
Plus: I just like to keep that Rhondalea person, amused.......
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I agree with Shotgun Ray. That's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. BASE#'s don't prove a thing. I know jumpers with #'s who are just accidents waiting to happen (even though we're all accidents waiting to happen...hmmm) and jumpers with no # (like me) who are pretty solid.

The numbers are for fun but were never, or should ever, be used to prove anything to do with skill level or experience.

Having a BASE# tells me you have done 4 BASE jumps. That, and nothing more.

I think the numbers are great and I hope that tradition continues as long as people are BASE jumping. But some like them, and some don't.

A pretty funny comment coming from someone who pusses out often on offers to go jump Seattle objects…

The Seattle crew doesn't cater to pussies… So please, go to Portland…

By the way BASE 509… You can stick your number up your ass! Because that’s what it amounts to, a load of shit…

Please see prior post...

Having a BASE # to do a BASE jump is like going to the deli and pulling a number so you can order a sandwich.

Number 1009?... 1010?

That's me!!! I'd like one flick with 450 feet of altitude 2 1/2 second delay, hold the line twists.

Make that 4 please

Beef
Asparagus
Sausage
Eggplant

Right Michael... I can't remember the last time you did anything you said you were going to do. I do remember being woken up at 2 AM to jump a building in gusty (unsafe) winds. Even that was a couple months ago.

Just because a lot of jumpers don't want to jump with you, doesn't mean we're not jumping without you. You've been unsafe for a very long time and I don't think that being considered a "pussy" by you is going to cost me any loss of sleep.

It's hard to feel bad about it, because you never come through anyway. I tried really hard to give you a chance and stuck with you when the rest of the Seattle crew didn't want anything to do with you. Remember those times?

What did we get in return? Nothing that I can think of. We had some good times before you slipped back into your little world of alcohol and bad-mouthing everyone you don't get along with.

Anyhow. I'm done with you. Later.

Hey why don't you go jump El Cap again... Oh wait, you executed it like a dumbass and got busted.

Oh yeah... Advice coming from someone who turned a building into a cluster-fuck because you guys didn't bring radios or phones.

In fact... Do you even know how to scout an object? Or do only jump objects that are handed to you by the Seattle crew?

Why don't you get the fuck off your high horse before I knock you off?

Come get it asshole.

Edit: To anyone who does not personally know Mike, I'd suggest asking around before you draw any conclusions from this thread.

Sung to a very familiar tune:

Now it's time to say goodbye, to all our company,

D-E-X

T-E-R

See... you INNNN 2 weeeeks!

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Love your work.

 
Gentlemen, if the term applies, surely we can resolve our differences without cursing or personal attacks? Or maybe not. Apparently, the gloves are OFF.

I'm not going to "Come get it"... I'm going to come take it!

Where the fuck did that come from, Mike? You know for a fact that Chad is an excellent, heads up guy who has opened his own objects. As far as representing the "Seattle crew," no one jumps with you. You are the Mike crew and have been for the last year since you have flaked out of every single thing you have ever commited to with us. Stop being so angry, Mike. We're good people, remember when we were all friends and had some incrediblely fun times together? Well, we're not the ones who changed.

Quick question... Who is the Seattle BASE crew? Maybe 3 years ago it was easy to answer that question... but now it seems that everybody has a different idea of who is actually in the Seattle BASE crew. Is it everybody who shows up to the bar on Thursday night? Is it the over 20 BASE jumpers that live up here? It seems to me that the original Seattle BASE crew has just turned into a bunch of different clicks... reminds me way to much of skydiving.

The original Seattle BASE crew was awesome! There were definitely enough fights to go around, but nobody ever disowned their crew. I've had fights with pretty much everyone up here and I still consider them in my Seattle BASE crew.

Chad, Michael,

You guys need to take this somewhere that is not this forum.

I've banned you both for 14 days.

Leroy...trust me...you gotta SEE it...I am still trying to talk Rick into letting me get my train/HOBO jump...gotta sweet talk him a bit more though hehe!

Rick actually showed TomD and Dexter the footage when they were down not too long ago. These guys put a new definition in the word 'hardcore'.

 

let's not forget that BASE jumping was a much bigger deal ten or twenty years ago.

If you got your BASE number fifteen years ago, even if you only did it in only four jumps, it still meant you were one bad ass motherfucker.
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hey thanks!
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It may not have meant that you were a smart guy or a skilled BASE jumper,
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why you lousy @$%^%*&*(()&) !

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but it certainly meant you had a certain screw loose in the top of your head that made you pursue a crazy activity.

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screw loose? maybe?
adventurous certainly!
still learning?
you bet!
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be safe

kleggo
base #93 a "low" number because i'm an old guy.
coming up on my 25th year anniversary Nov 7 2007.

originally posted by SBCmac

Special Thanks to KMonster & DexterBASE for being such amazing people…

I’m motivated to make this post for so many reasons, but I’m not going to list them here… I have so many reasons to thank KMonster & DexterBASE that I would have to write a book in order to do it properly and to the level that it should be done to do them justice.

I’m also motivated to write this post because of other BASE jumpers that I conflict with. So to keep my complaints separate I’m going to start another post called “The BASE game… Playing it at your level without judging others…” I’ll add the link once I’m done writing the post…

LINK HERE -->http://www.dropzone.com/...;;page=unread#unread

Finally, I just want to say that if you ever have a chance to hang out with KMonster & DexterBASE, make an effort to get to know them; you will be thankful you did… KMonster & DexterBASE are special people and are more passionate about BASE and Life than anyone I have ever met in the sport… KMonster & DexterBASE have truly raised the bar in regards to what I want in friends and they have raised the bar with who I will BASE jump with.

Again, thank you KMonster and DexterBASE for being such amazing people…

Michael

Now i'm confused. This is wild speculation, but i'm sensing some tension here.......

I got mine on my 100th jump at Bridge Day in 1996 as the first jumper at the event after a few years of jumping. I'm still very proud of it. It was about the same level of difficulty as getting my Masters degree but not as difficult as getting my doctorate. It connects me in a way with my mentor Dead Steve Morrell (RIP), BASE 174, and other heros of the sport like BASE 1-4, BASE 36-38, and several others. The numbers are not just a US thing. They are going to a lot of non-US jumpers too. And they connect us to other jumpers from many different walks of life, like police officers, airline pilots, drug dealers, atomic scientists, astronauts, cosmonauts, plumbers, porn stars, etc.

> They are going to a lot of non-US jumpers too.
Yes indeed. In this part of the world (Italy) as soon as a young dickhea...... ehhmmm... a BASE jumper has completed the word B.A.S.E., prepares his letter to Rick, and I helped a lot of them providing the "frame letter" (Italian folks are NOT very keen on languages ) to be filled by each with their own data

For me, yes, the BASE number is something to be proud of, as well as a connection with the folks that invented the sport, many, many years ago.
And, WITHOUT ANY WILL TO BE DISRESPECTFUL OR SO, the BASE number is ALSO a good fun to have: we often call us each other by BASE number ("Hey, is #658 coming now or tomorrow?", "We are waiting for #879 who is still on highway" and so on...) and it (the BASE number thing) resembles us to be secret agents or so, like grown up kids (we need to be and to feel grown up kids, otherwise we could not have all the fun we have ).
At the same time, we absolutely do not judge in any way somebody who hasn't got a BASE number, because we all know that holding a BASE number is by no means a certification of ability/skill (I closed the word at my 13th jump, and, even if my exit was solid stable and good awareness under canopy and good landing capabilities and whatever, I would have NEVER gone to jump alone, forget going scouting and opening alone an object and so on...).
In fact, there are rumors that few people closed the word in only 4 jumps, and (for example) Mr. #66 closed the word in 5 jumps (damn, two successive S jumps...), and (no jealousy indeed, believe me) while I get hats off to #66 for his huge balls (as well as his two friends), please, tell me how experienced and how skilled (capable of evaluating new (safe) objects, pulling off brilliantly advanced (flight) objects, and so on...) #66 was after his fifth jump..........

> And they connect us to other jumpers from many different walks of life, like police officers, airline pilots, drug dealers, atomic scientists, astronauts, cosmonauts, plumbers, porn stars, etc
While the above is indeed true, still we Italian chaps, who have so much fun calling us each other by BASE number ("Hey, I got a phone call by #657..."), we don't care if a visiting jumper has got a BASE number or not, we still take them to jump our sites, having a hell of a fun all together

hey to SBCmac first of all F^CK YOU. i never personally attacked anyone and here you go attacking me. secondly i never said anything about peoples skill level or abilities relating to BASE numbers. you want to talk about this in person just let me know.

Hey Bruce.
Drop me a e-mail at base515@carolina.rr.com

hey call me

gowaylow