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do you require anything else then money from a person you sell your second hand base rig to?

would you sell rig second hand to someone who hasn't yet a mentor?
would you require xx number of skydives or something like that?

I usually ask for them to have a mentor that I know (or at least know of), and feel good about. I usually ask how much skydiving they've done, but I'm not as picky about the exact number of airplane jumps as I am about having some guidance from the BASE side of things.

I wouldn't be willing to sell a second hand rig to someone who did not yet have a mentor.

It’s a nice thought; “trying to prevent those of inadequate experience and lack of guidance from getting themselves killed” but what is to stop someone from simply lying.

How many skydives do you have? Where do you skydive at? Can I contact your DZO?

“I’ve got 300+. I jump all over, I’m in sales and always travel so I don’t really have a home DZ. No one really “knows” me well enough to provide a reference.”

Do you have a mentor?

“No but I am going to take a first jump course with Apex. No I haven’t called yet. I am planning on getting my gear first and then when I am able to sign up when my schedule permits it, I will.”

Thoughts?

Coco

"Call me back once you've signed up for your FJC. I'll have the rig waiting for you when you arrive in Twin Falls."

Calling Jimmy to check would be no problem.

"Awesome, schedule your course and I'll ship the rig to Jimmy so you can borrow it for free during the course. Afterwards, I'll talk to Jimmy and decide on whether or not I'll sell it to you. Meanwhile, try finding a mentor in whatever area you consider home."

Nice!!!

Edited to add: Yea I guess there is a way to insure someone has guidance in any circumstance.

Got a Mojo and a Reactor right now for sale cheap. Only been dropped around 75 times. I also have a five assed monkey for sale cheap, we are currently working on a sixed assed one as I write this.

How much for the monkey?

If it is bad, will you spank it?

I totally hate monkies so I am selling these cheap and all of them come pretenderized. It is illegal to bread them but I will only sell them to authorized monkey handlers.

Is it illegal to bread them if we do it on bread day?

Breaded monkey is over-rated. Is it legal to blacken a five-assed monkey? If so, is it then ethical to sell it to someone who has only eaten a two-assed monkey, and had no formal monkey eating classes?

I spent years trying to convince people of what I think is the right way of getting into the sport, some just would not listen. With more information and better access to equipment as well as more jumps sites, it has become harder and harder to police the sport and control new people getting into it.

Hence, if a person wants to spin an elaborate lie like your scenario, I stay clear. If the scenario is genuine, it shows me that their priorities are not highly geared towards BASE anyway, hence I still stay clear. They will eventually find someone who will say yes, but there is not much I can do about that.

No jumper has any obligation to teach another person how to BASE jump. The obligation is with the person who wants to jump to make an effort.

Final words: I also believe in natural selection. If an adult is hell bent on being an irresponsible dickhead, wants to circumvent a logical training regimen, doesn't care about undertaking BASE in the "proper" way, then I personally don't care one bit if (s)he goes in. That is a decision they have made. I do however care for their loved ones, and higher than that, the sport itself. Hence my responsibility as a potential instructor of BASE students if to give them as much assitance, information, and feedback as possible. But my responsibility to the sport is to teach the students properly (And if I can't teach well to get someone else to do it), or to turn them away if they are not appropriate. If they try to find a back door into the sport, then mother nature has every right to take care of them in her own way!!!!!!!

Greenie in training? More like grammar police and not funny joke maker in training. Thanks for picking up on that I almost looked like someone that drinks a lot, but I digress.....

I want their SSN, mother's maiden name, and all their previous addresses. If they asked me why I tell them I used to work for the NSA and I have to do a background check making sure they are not going to inflict any terror with the rig.

So after I sold them the used rig, I open a credit card on their name and get a brand new rig

The manufacures don't care if the shipping and billing addresses are different because I tell them "It's for a costumer, you know".

In the end, I end up with a brand new rig, and some cash in my pocket for traveling expenses