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I strongly recommend you wait until you have the pre-requisite experience.

1) The site is technically challenging.
2) Jay and Damien put in a lot of work ensuring legal access.
3) Helicopter support (which they provide) is really mandatory for emergency evacuation in case of accident.

Please don't try to go this one without guidance from the folks who've got it all set up already. It's not worth it.

Thanks Tom,
This post is more orientated toward the Eric's in the world...... please don't go down and attempt to undo all the hard work many people have put into jumping inside of the largest National Park in all of Mexico.
This site is one of the most technical/difficult landing sites in the world. The wall lies at the T of a 2800+ ft canyon, and a 2000 ft gulch. The site requires access from 5 am to no later than 9 or 10 a.m. We have never been able to make a jump in the afternoon in 4 trips. We always suffer weather days. It is by far one of the more difficult/technical sites visited out there.
We are gifted with an annual permit in March every year. This site is extremely remote requiring a helicopter to access. The government allows us a permit with the following:
1. Helicopter support from the local medi-vac chopper service in Cihuahua.This means a helicopter on-site for every single jump or journey out to "ANY" jump site.
2. Full medical/search and rescue support . (We are required to bring down about 10-15,000 in medical and rescue gear including high-line helicopter/big wall rescue gear and support.)
3. A permit pre-approved six months in advance with one of the "approved" providers of parachuting serviced inside the Mexican NPS.
4. Daily operations overseen by local Gov. authorities.


Please realize that getting hurt at the bottom of one of the more unforgiving regions of the planet that has no infrastructure for search and rescue.... much less real medical help....... will turn a bad injury into a life threatening one...... a really bad lower extremity injury..............a FATALITY. If you show up jumping in the canyon without major support, and get hurt................. GOOD LUCK!!!!! You will definitely need it............ ask the guy hitting the waterfall in C2......... he was lucky there were a bunch of military guys to hall him out..... The Giant is 20 times more inaccessible.
I understand that the videos that we put out are "entising"...... realize that some of the most experienced and current jumper in the world have qualified this place as the one of the most technical/difficult places to land a parchute in the world(Marta,Avery,Rook,and many more of the worlds best canopy pilots out there). Please email any one of the many clients that we have taken there. I believe they will all tell you that going there without proper support is a suicide mission.
I'm not trying to scare anyone out of going down and checking it out. Please just realise that jumping inside of the canyon without proper permits/support will just help turn this place into the cave. An object that only a few of us got to go to....... and no one else ever will.
Tom------- thanks for everything........ can't log on every-other-minute!!!!!!!!
p.s. Our requirements for this trip are BOTH 1000 + Skydives AND 100+ BASE Jumps(only 20 Perrine Jumps Count), 20+ Slider Up, and you have to have cut your teeth on something technical/exotic........ Norway/Cave/Europe........ (other objects besides your local stick... and dirt pile!!)
p.s.s. I make twice as much $$$$ running my bar/restaurant as I ever will hanging out with sub-terminal freaks. It's more of a love-affair/passion to share with Jedi-Fuckers something I found and jumped. If I wasn't the guy organizing these "Miracle-Trips", I would be handing someone else 4000 to take me. I prefer to organize, and make thing happen on "My" level safety, as well as comfort-wise. I do this because of all the magical moments I am able to pack into a 4 week period called March Madness.
Anyone wanting to contact me with questions.....jayepstein@hotmail.com

I've split this off from the "TF Memorial Day" thread. I wanted to give it a separate title, because there is some good information here that is unrelated to TF or Memorial Day.

Hello,
If you left right now, in a few days you would be nowhere near the base of the giant to check out the landing area. Eventually, perhaps, you may get to the bottom. Standing at the bottom of the cliff, you appreciate the adjective #!%$ and dream of your own country's National Parks. You are now days from the exit point. Eventually, perhaps, you may get to the exit. You would be tired and hungry, and very scared. You are a long long way from any kind of help, that dot you have to land on is gnarly, but at least the winds are squirly. With your toes curled over the edge of your pulse, pounding, realizing, it's only fifty-fifty and you're not 100%. My experience is limited to five hundred and seventy two BASE jumps from one hundred and nineteen objects on four continents.
Thanks Jay. Sign me up for next year.
Avery, number twelve.

eeh, its like whatever i post on the base board i get shunned upon.

all i heard is that it was a big huge cliff somewhere in mexico. what i didnt hear, until now, that it is a very technically difficult jump and any injuries would be very very bad.

so no disrespect to anyone related to the boogie.

the big wall in norway is something that i am quite interested in pursuing. the base club there (so i hear) requires only 250 skydives, not sure about base jumps. but i would love to make my way out there sometime later this summer giving that i fullfill all my skydiving requirements.

when the time comes and i have met all the pre reqs to go on the trip i am more than willing to lay down the money. money really isnt an issue with me, i just want to have a good time. and i dont want to die in the process. everyone has been nothing but helpful and cautiosly peering over my shoulders to make sure i dont get into anything too serious too quick, and i appreciate that.

edit for site name ~TA

I don't think you are being shunned at all. Once you've been there, you will understand the nature of the posts and the seriousness of the site. These folks care about human life AND site preservation, but the two go hand in hand. The 'danger disclaimer' is usually somewhere within all the posts on this subject. I've seen first hand what happens when someone gets over ther head there, and it aint pretty.....
If you set your goal to jump this site, hard work, research, and training will help you get there. But not without Adrenaline Exploits.
Thanks again Jay, ditto what Avery said, sign me up for next year and one way or the other we'll get that 2-way (or more)WS jump in
Looking forward to seeing all of y'all in CO or Moab this year too!!
Later
Blair
EG #18

PS Avery, any way we can see some vid of your ill flight line off the Big Wall, saw some while I was there and the 3-chip footage was spectacular!! Needless to say I took the more coservative line, but that's nothing new